bly.wtf and moonlight which is better?

Hi, I’d like to get some opinions on these two products which one is better for long-term use? Both include AI and color features, which I’m interested in, also which one is safer?

I'm actually curious about the answer to this as well. Is there anyone in the forum who knows about both and can give an unbiased opinion?

I alsow would love to know. Hopefully this gets an answer eventually.

I've personally used both I prefer bly

moonlight has a large community around it but its annoying to set up and its un reliable if you don't have a capture card

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Originally Posted by bkk1ng I've personally used both I prefer bly moonlight has a large community around it but its annoying to set up and its un reliable if you don't have a capture card

a lot has changed since you last used in January but bly i hear is very good and they should be save as long as they have abcurves implemented.

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Originally Posted by .MOON. a lot has changed since you used the last used in January but bly i hear is very good and they should be save as long as they have abcurves implemented.

Whats abcurves? Can you share some knowledge?

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Originally Posted by inoueciffer Whats abcurves? Can you share some knowledge?

ABCurves generates realistic mouse movements that preserve the way a person naturally moves. Rather than simply making movement look human, it adapts to the user's speed, corrections, and movement history so every continuation feels consistent.

It uses two planners: Continuous for moving targets and Static for completing movements toward fixed targets. A shared Renderer converts these movements into realistic 1 kHz mouse reports that reflect the user's individual movement style and hardware.

I think mouse movement analysis is going to become a much bigger part of anti-cheat in the near future. Any aimbot that doesn't account for realistic mouse movement patterns could become increasingly vulnerable to detection.

You can always ask whatever provider you're considering whether they support something like the ABCurves Continuous Planner. If they don't, that's something I'd personally take into consideration. That said, no movement system can guarantee you won't get banned.

There are also plenty of 2PC solutions on the market besides Moonlight and Bly.

There's cphook, CVM, Eventuri, AVALON, and quite a few others.

As much as some of those guys like to knock me, they all have their own interesting solutions. I think it's worth looking at what everyone brings to the table rather than pretending only one provider exists.

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Originally Posted by .MOON. ABCurves generates realistic mouse movements that preserve the way a person naturally moves. Rather than simply making movement look human, it adapts to the user's speed, corrections, and movement history so every continuation feels consistent. It uses two planners: Continuous for moving targets and Static for completing movements toward fixed targets. A shared Renderer converts these movements into realistic 1 kHz mouse reports that reflect the user's individual movement style and hardware. I think mouse movement analysis is going to become a much bigger part of anti-cheat in the near future. Any aimbot that doesn't account for realistic mouse movement patterns could become increasingly vulnerable to detection. You can always ask whatever provider you're considering whether they support something like the ABCurves Continuous Planner. If they don't, that's something I'd personally take into consideration. That said, no movement system can guarantee you won't get banned. There are also plenty of 2PC solutions on the market besides Moonlight and Bly. There's cphook, CVM, Eventuri, AVALON, and quite a few others. As much as some of those guys like to knock me, they all have their own interesting solutions. I think it's worth looking at what everyone brings to the table rather than pretending only one provider exists.

Damn, i didnt know ai aimbot features would go as deep as that. Maybe thats why other provider like aptitt get their users banned really quick bcs they didnt do any of this shit

so it’s worth checking out both and deciding for yourself, given that both products are solid

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Originally Posted by inoueciffer Damn, i didnt know ai aimbot features would go as deep as that. Maybe thats why other provider like aptitt get their users banned really quick bcs they didnt do any of this shit

Yep, but AFAIK the only board that currently supports ABCurves correctly is MAKCU with the Medius firmware.

Which is what we encourage our customer flashing on their MAKCU.

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Originally Posted by STRONG™ Yep, but AFAIK the only board that currently supports ABCurves correctly is MAKCU with the Medius firmware. Which is what we encourage our customer flashing on their MAKCU.

that isn't exactly true. Host side rendering it can be done. You should easily be able to spread the movement across 1k host side.

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Originally Posted by .MOON. a lot has changed since you last used in January but bly i hear is very good and they should be save as long as they have abcurves implemented.

I bought on a alt in august because at that point I couldn't use my main discord for cheating stuff was still lagy when streaming no cap card still :(

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Originally Posted by .MOON. a lot has changed since you last used in January but bly i hear is very good and they should be save as long as they have abcurves implemented.

i think i have been banned from your discord?

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Originally Posted by .MOON. that isn't exactly true. Host side rendering it can be done. You should easily be able to spread the movement across 1k host side.

Mh, I didn't look too much into it, I have implemented it with Medius because you can easily control and see if the whole 1k report is correctly done.
The other firmwares don't expose such controls, or if they do, you can't really see if the generated report was done correctly.

I could be wrong tho.

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Originally Posted by bkk1ng I've personally used both I prefer bly moonlight has a large community around it but its annoying to set up and its un reliable if you don't have a capture card

So isn't it reliable to use moon with UDP OBS or Moonlight Stream (Sunshine)? I mean, is a physical capture card strictly necessary?

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Originally Posted by JasperTR So isn't it reliable to use moon with UDP OBS or Moonlight Stream (Sunshine)? I mean, is a physical capture card strictly necessary?

at least in my experience also ive just became aware that im banned from there server for doing nothing to them so idk whats happened