Chams - lifetime - what happen

09/28/2026 02:00 Minota#1
Why is there literally not a single cheat that has good chams, all chams which are very few are not "properly working" on grass, bushes, branches etc, only on terrain. By that I mean if grass is thick enough, chams/skeletons would show that player is "visible" although he's not. I think same applies for box esp but didnt check that properly

Also very few cheat providers are offering lifetime, and ones that do are priced insanely even with just "chams" feature

Or ones that are quite reasonable have same ui and stuff in it as if they have been coded with ai and copy-pasted mostly which i am sceptical af about

Today this all feels like money laundering to me and that you cant trust no one almost and its all guessing game
09/28/2026 17:28 Salty#2
We provide a External and DMA product for Wardogs, original chams are impossible to do through external but we do have something the mimics the effect
We are looking to add chams to the DMA product tho..
also offering a lifetime for a reasonable price

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09/28/2026 17:58 Minota#3
How are they impossible to do since some cheaters offer it already that is not on dma ?

Also your cheats are having the exact same problem I was refering above just by watching the video.

Skeletons are always in visible color even tho players are not visible through big grass, part of the tree etc.

This is a big thing when you're trying to play legit. Experienced people will not shot through obviously but many many people may cause its showing "wrong" information.

Price is reasonable for everything, but I am not looking for everything, I am only looking for ESP and chams
09/28/2026 18:14 ixce#4
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How are they impossible to do since some cheaters offer it already that is not on dma ?

Also your cheats are having the exact same problem I was refering above just by watching the video.

Skeletons are always in visible color even tho players are not visible through big grass, part of the tree etc.

This is a big thing when you're trying to play legit. Experienced people will not shot through obviously but many many people may cause its showing "wrong" information.

Price is reasonable for everything, but I am not looking for everything, I am only looking for ESP and chams
The chams you are talking about are just not possible to do through an external, you would need to look for an internal provider.

I doubt you will find a provider that only provides esp/chams.
09/28/2026 18:27 Minota#5
Well I am looking for internal only

Thats my point, 10 years ago you had all of those stuff as "basic stuff"

Nowadays it seems like cheats are "downgrading" both in terms of features and buying options. I think its relatively easy to split the cheat ui and offer different packages as some people already are doing
09/28/2026 19:16 blackout.dev#6
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Why is there literally not a single cheat that has good chams
Huh?

CHAMS
09/28/2026 20:03 .KaiZy#7
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Originally Posted by Minota View Post
Well I am looking for internal only

Thats my point, 10 years ago you had all of those stuff as "basic stuff"

Nowadays it seems like cheats are "downgrading" both in terms of features and buying options. I think its relatively easy to split the cheat ui and offer different packages as some people already are doing
10 years ago you renamed .exe file to stay UD, you can't compare 2016 to 2026 my g.
09/28/2026 20:47 Minota#8
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10 years ago you renamed .exe file to stay UD, you can't compare 2016 to 2026 my g.
I remember it being something via usb device
09/28/2026 20:51 Minota#9
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Huh?

CHAMS
I've seen your cheat before making this post. Your chams and skeleton esp needs polishing, same as every other cheat out there to my knowledge. They're coded to show "visible color" when a player is visible over a terrain only, its not taking into consideration other objects at all, most notably freaking walls of anything. Most obvious example you have on your website is skeleton chams being showed fully as "visible" when 90% of the body is not visible. I can only assume its like that on normal chams. For me this is unacceptable today for legit cheating as its showing "wrong information"
No offense, just saying.
09/28/2026 23:19 L1ney#10
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I've seen your cheat before making this post. Your chams and skeleton esp needs polishing, same as every other cheat out there to my knowledge. They're coded to show "visible color" when a player is visible over a terrain only, its not taking into consideration other objects at all, most notably freaking walls of anything. Most obvious example you have on your website is skeleton chams being showed fully as "visible" when 90% of the body is not visible. I can only assume its like that on normal chams. For me this is unacceptable today for legit cheating as its showing "wrong information"
No offense, just saying.
Hey! in case you are looking for actually near to perfect visible check - you just need to go for advance
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seems like we are the one of the only cheats who made it proper way ( especially for an external )

accuracy of vis check can be seen here:
09/29/2026 00:20 Minota#11
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Hey! in case you are looking for actually near to perfect visible check - you just need to go for advance
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seems like we are the one of the only cheats who made it proper way ( especially for an external )

accuracy of vis check can be seen here:
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Yours is also like any others, also at 4:01 mark its bugging through wall
Dunno why would you even say that you have that when you clearly dont
09/29/2026 00:37 blackout.dev#12
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Originally Posted by Minota View Post
I've seen your cheat before making this post. Your chams and skeleton esp needs polishing, same as every other cheat out there to my knowledge. They're coded to show "visible color" when a player is visible over a terrain only, its not taking into consideration other objects at all, most notably freaking walls of anything. Most obvious example you have on your website is skeleton chams being showed fully as "visible" when 90% of the body is not visible. I can only assume its like that on normal chams. For me this is unacceptable today for legit cheating as its showing "wrong information"
No offense, just saying.
Fair point.

I’ll add per-bone visible check today, so each bone is handled individually instead of treating the whole player as visible.

I’ll also add checks for other objects, including objects that can be penetrated, so the visible/hidden state is more accurate overall.

Thanks for pointing it out.
09/29/2026 18:12 L1ney#13
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Yours is also like any others, also at 4:01 mark its bugging through wall
Dunno why would you even say that you have that when you clearly dont
haha, it can be seen you never used advance if you say it
the issue with 4:01 ( what you saw ) is because all windows got skipped, i will check what can be done about this but its overall issue related to chaos itself, it might be counted as mistake but saying ours is like "others" is absolutely untrue because if you look up others and the video i literally sent you will see the major difference, other externals use public meme that will make half of the players visible when they arent at all
p.s. and the fact that you only saw 1 mistake in 5 minutes video says a lot ^^
p.s. 2 in example here
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you take any random external and will see such posts

have a nice one tho, hope you find what suits u
09/29/2026 19:57 Minota#14
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haha, it can be seen you never used advance if you say it
the issue with 4:01 ( what you saw ) is because all windows got skipped, i will check what can be done about this but its overall issue related to chaos itself, it might be counted as mistake but saying ours is like "others" is absolutely untrue because if you look up others and the video i literally sent you will see the major difference, other externals use public meme that will make half of the players visible when they arent at all
p.s. and the fact that you only saw 1 mistake in 5 minutes video says a lot ^^
p.s. 2 in example here
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you take any random external and will see such posts

have a nice one tho, hope you find what suits u
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you had some clips where you didnt use visible color so i used couple of obvious ss's above where you used both and its not working as intended, clearly when a player is visible its showing as not visible, when other objects are in front of a player its incorrectly showing them as not visible when some parts of the body are still visible
09/29/2026 21:24 ZeroGrind#15
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Also very few cheat providers are offering lifetime, and ones that do are priced insanely even with just "chams" feature

Or ones that are quite reasonable have same ui and stuff in it as if they have been coded with ai and copy-pasted mostly which i am sceptical af about

Today this all feels like money laundering to me and that you cant trust no one almost and its all guessing game
It's because lifetime is mostly just a marketing strategy and the cheat can disappear anytime like a slap in the face