dtc or hwid ban?

Hi everyone,
I need your opinion on whether I am facing an active HWID ban or if my cheat was simply detected. Here is the exact timeline of what happened:

* June 27 – July 1 (Morning): I used Phoenix Spoofer to bypass a previous HWID ban. Testing went well, and I was not banned for about 4 days.
* July 1 (Afternoon): I purchased and injected a cheat called Mason Full. Within just 2 hours of use, I got banned.
* Current Status: Ever since that ban, I am getting banned within exactly 15 minutes on every new account, even after completely formatting my PC.

I experienced the exact same issue previously when using a cheat called Luria.
My Question:
Did the cheat itself (Mason Full) get detected and trigger a fresh HWID ban, or did my spoofer just fail? I would love to hear your thoughts on this. Thank you.

Most likely you got HWID banned after using Mason

Haven't seen an account survive more than 1 day with a HWID personally.

Was it a temp or perm spoof? Temp spoofs are really bad in apex and that may be why you got banned even though it worked the first 4 days.

Also I can't for sure say Mason is dtc, if you were blatantly hacking it also possible you get banned by detection vectors by Apex, and not the actual injection being detected. Even low aimbot settings can get you banned

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Originally Posted by injector guy Most likely you got HWID banned after using Mason Haven't seen an account survive more than 1 day with a HWID personally. Was it a temp or perm spoof? Temp spoofs are really bad in apex and that may be why you got banned even though it worked the first 4 days. Also I can't for sure say Mason is dtc, if you were blatantly hacking it also possible you get banned by detection vectors by Apex, and not the actual injection being detected. Even low aimbot settings can get you banned

Thanks for sharing your thoughts! To answer your question, I was actually using a perm spoofer (Carbon).

According to the info I found on the forums, we are supposed to wait 24 hours after an account gets banned to prevent an instant/15-minute ban loop. I am currently testing this workaround and will share the results here as soon as I get them.

For context, I’ve previously used Covcheg and Warchill without any issues. The only other time I got banned this quickly was when I used tmhacks.
One thing worth noting is that Mason Full seemed defective—whenever I turned on the Aimbot Prediction feature, it caused aim skipping. This might have triggered the game's behavioral detection vectors.

Just to clarify, as mentioned in my post, I was initially using Phoenix Spoofer. The built-in cleaner of that product actually helped bypass the insta ban at first. After that, I switched over to using a perm spoofer.

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Originally Posted by hive1 Hi everyone, I need your opinion on whether I am facing an active HWID ban or if my cheat was simply detected. Here is the exact timeline of what happened: * June 27 – July 1 (Morning): I used Phoenix Spoofer to bypass a previous HWID ban. Testing went well, and I was not banned for about 4 days. * July 1 (Afternoon): I purchased and injected a cheat called Mason Full. Within just 2 hours of use, I got banned. * Current Status: Ever since that ban, I am getting banned within exactly 15 minutes on every new account, even after completely formatting my PC. I experienced the exact same issue previously when using a cheat called Luria. My Question: Did the cheat itself (Mason Full) get detected and trigger a fresh HWID ban, or did my spoofer just fail? I would love to hear your thoughts on this. Thank you.

yes what injector guy said

sounds like "mason full" got you banned either manual or detection and now ur hwid banned

looks like you switched to a perm spoofer, maybe its not working properly or you arent cleaning properly.

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Originally Posted by hive1 Hi everyone, I need your opinion on whether I am facing an active HWID ban or if my cheat was simply detected. Here is the exact timeline of what happened: * June 27 – July 1 (Morning): I used Phoenix Spoofer to bypass a previous HWID ban. Testing went well, and I was not banned for about 4 days. * July 1 (Afternoon): I purchased and injected a cheat called Mason Full. Within just 2 hours of use, I got banned. * Current Status: Ever since that ban, I am getting banned within exactly 15 minutes on every new account, even after completely formatting my PC. I experienced the exact same issue previously when using a cheat called Luria. My Question: Did the cheat itself (Mason Full) get detected and trigger a fresh HWID ban, or did my spoofer just fail? I would love to hear your thoughts on this. Thank you.

respoof yourself again and use another provider. that will answer your question 100% :handsdown:

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Originally Posted by Cheesy's Products yes what injector guy said sounds like "mason full" got you banned either manual or detection and now ur hwid banned looks like you switched to a perm spoofer, maybe its not working properly or you arent cleaning properly.

Thank you for your feedback. To ensure a definitive test this time, I will only use a perm spoofer.

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Originally Posted by geo1526 respoof yourself again and use another provider. that will answer your question 100% :handsdown:

I agree. I'll give that a try. It was my mistake to blindly trust the detection status of the cheat.

Additionally, if the same issue happens again and it turns out that my spoofing is the problem, it would mean Luria and Mason are likely undetected.

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Originally Posted by hive1 Thanks for sharing your thoughts! To answer your question, I was actually using a perm spoofer (Carbon). According to the info I found on the forums, we are supposed to wait 24 hours after an account gets banned to prevent an instant/15-minute ban loop. I am currently testing this workaround and will share the results here as soon as I get them. For context, I’ve previously used Covcheg and Warchill without any issues. The only other time I got banned this quickly was when I used tmhacks. One thing worth noting is that Mason Full seemed defective—whenever I turned on the Aimbot Prediction feature, it caused aim skipping. This might have triggered the game's behavioral detection vectors. Just to clarify, as mentioned in my post, I was initially using Phoenix Spoofer. The built-in cleaner of that product actually helped bypass the insta ban at first. After that, I switched over to using a perm spoofer.

A defective prediction feature sounds like a likely culprit for getting banned. I find it's generally really hard at the moment to aimbot in Apex. For context I experienced something similar when using nexup, which had a defective aimbot as well. Got banned after 1 day. I've also injected Shiwa after it got detected, which resulted in me being banned 2 seconds after the injection was successful.

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Originally Posted by injector guy A defective prediction feature sounds like a likely culprit for getting banned. I find it's generally really hard at the moment to aimbot in Apex. For context I experienced something similar when using nexup, which had a defective aimbot as well. Got banned after 1 day. I've also injected Shiwa after it got detected, which resulted in me being banned 2 seconds after the injection was successful.

I see what you mean. That aside, Mason's aimbot performance is pretty underwhelming anyway. I'm honestly torn on what to try next. I'm thinking it might be a good idea to just grab an ESP-only product for now, just to test if the aimbot was indeed the problem.

Just a quick status update on this. I waited 24 hours and just logged into the game, and I didn't get insta-banned. Gotta watch it for one more day to see if I can stay unbanned.

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Originally Posted by hive1 I agree. I'll give that a try. It was my mistake to blindly trust the detection status of the cheat. Additionally, if the same issue happens again and it turns out that my spoofing is the problem, it would mean Luria and Mason are likely undetected.

no prob it happens. whats important is you learn something from it. :handsdown:

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Originally Posted by hive1 Hi everyone, I need your opinion on whether I am facing an active HWID ban or if my cheat was simply detected. Here is the exact timeline of what happened: * June 27 – July 1 (Morning): I used Phoenix Spoofer to bypass a previous HWID ban. Testing went well, and I was not banned for about 4 days. * July 1 (Afternoon): I purchased and injected a cheat called Mason Full. Within just 2 hours of use, I got banned. * Current Status: Ever since that ban, I am getting banned within exactly 15 minutes on every new account, even after completely formatting my PC. I experienced the exact same issue previously when using a cheat called Luria. My Question: Did the cheat itself (Mason Full) get detected and trigger a fresh HWID ban, or did my spoofer just fail? I would love to hear your thoughts on this. Thank you.

This is the new hwid identifier they added. It gives that kinda bans in EAC. Theyre not handling it, we've been pretty open about it in Reporteds discord and elsewhere for that sake.

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Originally Posted by SauceMachine This is the new hwid identifier they added. It gives that kinda bans in EAC. Theyre not handling it, we've been pretty open about it in Reporteds discord and elsewhere for that sake.

Thanks, you're the only source for this.
Update: likely banned due to Mason Full detection or an aimbot glitch.
Tested another product and the account wasn't banned.

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Originally Posted by hive1 Hi everyone, I need your opinion on whether I am facing an active HWID ban or if my cheat was simply detected. Here is the exact timeline of what happened: * June 27 – July 1 (Morning): I used Phoenix Spoofer to bypass a previous HWID ban. Testing went well, and I was not banned for about 4 days. * July 1 (Afternoon): I purchased and injected a cheat called Mason Full. Within just 2 hours of use, I got banned. * Current Status: Ever since that ban, I am getting banned within exactly 15 minutes on every new account, even after completely formatting my PC. I experienced the exact same issue previously when using a cheat called Luria. My Question: Did the cheat itself (Mason Full) get detected and trigger a fresh HWID ban, or did my spoofer just fail? I would love to hear your thoughts on this. Thank you.

Time to switch to a new provider because that Mason cheat seem to get you banned

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Originally Posted by Onizuka. Time to switch to a new provider because that Mason cheat seem to get you banned

That’s why I’m looking for a cheap one, but most don’t work.

It’s definitely an active HWID ban. If you are getting banned within 15 minutes on every new account even after a clean Windows format, your hardware serials (like disk serials, motherboard UUID, or MAC address) are completely flagged by the anti-cheat.

What most likely happened is that Mason Full was instantly detected, which triggered a fresh, deeper HWID ban, or your spoofer simply got patched by the anti-cheat provider during that time. Formatting your PC doesn't clear actual hardware serials, so until you get a working kernel-level spoofer that properly masks your current IDs or change your hardware, you’ll keep hitting that 15-minute delayed ban loop.