Why do the same servers always open?

Damn it, everyone's focused on making money, nobody cares about the players. We can't play on any server without paying, but know this: if those who don't make money don't play on the server, nobody will pay. We want a fun PvP server. We're against ridiculously poorly crafted items or 3x experience points.

Sad to admit it, but currently the best 12Sky servers are Genius Orc and Redfox, and guess what, they're official.

All those private servers are doomed to fail, ain't nobody touching that garbage.

1. Because the current developers who are opening servers are not actually "developers". They just copy paste stuff they find online.

2. Because there are no developers left that have real passion for the game.

3. Because the playerbase actively keeps destroying with hacks every good 12sky version. I was there to see all of them destroyed starting 12sky1 aeria, 12sky1 korea, 12sky1 japan 12sky1 anrinch, 12sky2 redfox and 2-3 more good private servers.

Somebody should just create a F2P server and that's it. No p2w advantage and they could add 5$ monthly membership or donation goal just for server expenses.

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Originally Posted by mogomogo Somebody should just create a F2P server and that's it. No p2w advantage and they could add 5$ monthly membership or donation goal just for server expenses.

you pay the cost of keeping server up + paying for the developer for his job and maintaining monthly, let me know ill put one up.

if no, keep dreaming f2p, there is nobody going to run a server that will cost the developer $$$$ every month + the time his gonna put in to it

12sky game is only and always will be up to the income, even official server will shut down if income is not gonna cover the cost...

so let me know if ya pay $$$$ every month, ill put one F2P up no real cash topup will be there...
all agined by playing! Deal!!

otherwise your wish is lousy and the way you think how this works is false

$5 monthly subscription doesnt cut if under 500 players...

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Originally Posted by sdefref you pay the cost of keeping server up + paying for the developer for his job and maintaining monthly, let me know ill put one up. if no, keep dreaming f2p, there is nobody going to run a server that will cost the developer $$$$ every month + the time his gonna put in to it 12sky game is only and always will be up to the income, even official server will shut down if income is not gonna cover the cost... so let me know if ya pay $$$$ every month, ill put one F2P up no real cash topup will be there... all agined by playing! Deal!! otherwise your wish is lousy and the way you think how this works is false $5 monthly subscription doesnt cut if under 500 players...

Let's be real here: saying you need 500+ players to cover costs is complete nonsense. Anyone who actually knows the 12Sky scene knows that a dedicated community of 50-100 active players is more than enough to keep the lights on and the server running smoothly.

You guys are right about the hacks, though that’s been the downfall of many great projects. That’s exactly why we’ve prioritized stability and protection.

Even if you’re skeptical about private servers, I would say give us a shot. We have made sure everything is 100% achievable for F2P players.

You don’t have to spend a dime to compete, you just need to put in the time. Come by, see for yourself, and if it’s not for you, no hard feelings. But you might just find the experience you've been looking for.

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We have a very active and nice staff team, including multiple GS and GMs who are constantly on the ground.

We already have hundreds of players enjoying the project because we put our heart, soul, and pure passion into this.

This project is truly 'by the community, for the community.' :)

Greetings

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Originally Posted by TwelveSky Classic Let's be real here: saying you need 500+ players to cover costs is complete nonsense. Anyone who actually knows the 12Sky scene knows that a dedicated community of 50-100 active players is more than enough to keep the lights on and the server running smoothly.

with vps, start is fine and cheap yea for $50 with 20-30 players, good luck with vps garbage in future if server truly grows...
having only 50-100 players doesnt mean server stays up and running, seen many servers close that has twise the players so having players to keep server running is nonsense...

to have a good server that is also future proof in terms of growing, monthly cost go around $500-$800 (~500 active players)

anything less then that is always a trash money grab garbage server...

so you will close ya server as soon you see the bottom of the pot xD
im sure its already visible....

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Originally Posted by sdefref with vps, start is fine and cheap yea for $50 with 20-30 players, good luck with vps garbage in future if server truly grows... having only 50-100 players doesnt mean server stays up and running, seen many servers close that has twise the players so having players to keep server running is nonsense... to have a good server that is also future proof in terms of growing, monthly cost go around $500-$800 (~500 active players) anything less then that is always a trash money grab garbage server... so you will close ya server as soon you see the bottom of the pot xD im sure its already visible....

The TwelveSky community doesn’t even have 500+ active players in total anymore. Anyone who realistically follows the scene knows that. Expecting a single server to consistently reach those numbers simply doesn’t reflect the reality of this game.

Im honestly curious have you ever actually hosted or managed a TwelveSky1 server yourself? Because your statements sound more theoretical than based on real experience.

Anyone who has been involved with the technical or financial side of running a server in this niche knows that player numbers alone dont guarantee stability or longevity.

This project is created by and for the small TS1 community, and we simply want to build a place where we feel comfortable, grow and enjoy the game together. Nobody is forced to join if they dont want to, but everyone is always welcome if they choose to be part of it. :)

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Originally Posted by TwelveSky Classic The TwelveSky community doesn’t even have 500+ active players in total anymore. Anyone who realistically follows the scene knows that. Expecting a single server to consistently reach those numbers simply doesn’t reflect the reality of this game. Im honestly curious have you ever actually hosted or managed a TwelveSky1 server yourself? Because your statements sound more theoretical than based on real experience. Anyone who has been involved with the technical or financial side of running a server in this niche knows that player numbers alone dont guarantee stability or longevity. This project is created by and for the small TS1 community, and we simply want to build a place where we feel comfortable, grow and enjoy the game together. Nobody is forced to join if they dont want to, but everyone is always welcome if they choose to be part of it. :)

official servers ruined the game, and private servers (such as yours) killed it.
btw your server closes in 4 months. :D

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Originally Posted by SkyMarket official servers ruined the game, and private servers (such as yours) killed it. btw your server closes in 4 months. :D

Zero facts, zero arguments, just salt. If you’re so sure we’ll fail, why even bother commenting? We're here for the players who actually want to play, not the ones waiting for a downfall.

I smell jealousy. What have you actually achieved for this community? Exactly. Nothing.

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Originally Posted by TwelveSky Classic Zero facts, zero arguments, just salt. If you’re so sure we’ll fail, why even bother commenting? We're here for the players who actually want to play, not the ones waiting for a downfall. I smell jealousy. What have you actually achieved for this community? Exactly. Nothing.

Are you mad and crying because I expose your private servers for what they actually are? Full diapers that need to be changed on day 1 and prolonged to 4 months lololol.

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Originally Posted by TwelveSky Classic Im honestly curious have you ever actually hosted or managed a TwelveSky1 server yourself? Because your statements sound more theoretical than based on real experience.

I'm developing my own game/developing discord bots/website developer
I do am hosting server (not 12sky)
So here, your curiosity is having a releaf, and I do know what im talking...
hosting and managig 12sky is child play

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Originally Posted by sdefref I'm developing my own game/developing discord bots/website developer I do am hosting server (not 12sky) So here, your curiosity is having a releaf, and I do know what im talking... hosting and managig 12sky is child play

Dont waste ur time. All begging to me to get some tools or tips. Gxd engine is over.

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Originally Posted by sdefref I'm developing my own game/developing discord bots/website developer I do am hosting server (not 12sky) So here, your curiosity is having a releaf, and I do know what im talking... hosting and managig 12sky is child play

Im a game developer myself. I do web dev, reverse engineering, programming in several languages, SQL Server management, and community management. I've got various projects going on.. hosting TwelveSky servers is just a side project for a community that deserves the support.

If it’s 'child's play,' then you should know that real devs don't talk down on projects they don't even touch. It’s a total contradiction to claim you're not involved but then act like an expert on it. If you don't care about TwelveSky, stop trying to prove yourself here. It’s embarrassing.

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Originally Posted by TwelveSky Classic Im a game developer myself. I do web dev, reverse engineering, programming in several languages, SQL Server management, and community management. I've got various projects going on.. hosting TwelveSky servers is just a side project for a community that deserves the support. If it’s 'child's play,' then you should know that real devs don't talk down on projects they don't even touch. It’s a total contradiction to claim you're not involved but then act like an expert on it. If you don't care about TwelveSky, stop trying to prove yourself here. It’s embarrassing.

He is one old good dev. Not a child like u. If u dont know someone here, think before commenting. U can check his threads and post if u want to see how people begging for help.
Respect.