Cheating in VAL is in its worst state yet

01/18/2026 10:53 Bodanator#1
As title says, the current situation is awful.

Regular software cheats whether internal or external have pretty much always been detected for a while now. Anything public will get you scammed or banned, privates DO exist however those get picked off too or offered a C&D.

DMA has never not been a complete mess (glad I never wasted any time/money on that crap)

Colorbots and AI cheats have existed for a long time on 1 PC but that would usually get you banned if using a public driver or improperly configured arduino. Hostshield was a good workaround but mainly offered by trash resellers who have low performance cheats anyways.

The best way around this was using a private driver, which ACPD themselves stated this was by far the most difficult thing to detect. However, even with these in place using anything on your main PC still ended up in a ban since every DMA user who used to hate on AI/Color suddenly moved over and riot shifted their focus.

Makcu/Ferrum released along with a new wave of users who started utilizing dual PC solutions but it was only several months before:

-NDI was detected
-UDP was detected
-Makcu is now unsafe (not confirmed detected but you are at risk when using and will get banned during a manual review).

Streaming via a capture card is technically viable for now but comes at a significant price if you want anything that performs even remotely well combined with requiring a Ferrum as well. Both of these are of $300 (basically just a DMA setup) for something that used to be an easy workaround.

HWID spoofers have also taken a number of different beatings. It is now extremely unlikely to get yourself unbanned and almost impossible to do so without any traces or spending a large amount of money to reconfigure your physical setup. Admittedly, I managed to unban myself recently and don't have as much knowledge in this subject since I didn't get banned on VALORANT for a several year period while DMA was at its height, but I still know from many sources spoofing has only become harder and more providers have resorted to scamming, lying, removing support, etc.

In my opinion the days of the cap card/ferrum solution are numbered, and VALORANT is the only game that has an anti-cheat that is able to detect and ban users extremely quickly and even those on a setup using 2 PCs. From a technical aspect this is extremely impressive and far beyond anything I've seen from any other AC out there. Sending any video feed over your local network should not be something this easily detectable regardless of if that resolution is cropped or not.

Nothing is on the main pc, nothing is interacting with the game, nothing is being manipulated in a way that raises the suspicions of an anti-cheat as fast as it does with vanguard. Normally these kinds of doomer posts are extremely cringe and come from an uneducated perspective, typically after someone has suffered a series of bans and yet I have cheated on the game since it came out and only feel this way now.

Anyone who disagrees is welcome to prove me wrong, I'd like to see it :D
01/18/2026 11:08 Hallucinator#2
Glad it is like that, would also love to see some extreme changes in freakin cs2, cuz it is unplayable lmao:D
01/18/2026 11:24 Bodanator#3
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Glad it is like that, would also love to see some extreme changes in freakin cs2, cuz it is unplayable lmao:D
VAC has been such a joke for so many years now I can't even remember the last time CS wasn't unplayable. The only thing keeping that game afloat is the child gambling and nostalgia.

Faceit sets a pretty good example and they are probably the second best ac out there but still somehow miles behind VALORANT. I heard there was recently a Makcu 1 PC wave and some users of my 2-PC AI cheat were banned as well but 1 PC Makcu has already been detected on Val for months now. I'd guess that in a couple more months from now they will try to eliminate any kind of illicit streaming from the main PC, if they are even able to at all.
01/18/2026 11:30 onlyvalorant#4
How would 2-PC setups even get detected? Honestly curious since I don't know how 2-Pc setups even work.
01/18/2026 11:33 Hallucinator#5
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VAC has been such a joke for so many years now I can't even remember the last time CS wasn't unplayable. The only thing keeping that game afloat is the child gambling and nostalgia.

Faceit sets a pretty good example and they are probably the second best ac out there but still somehow miles behind VALORANT. I heard there was recently a Makcu 1 PC wave and some users of my 2-PC AI cheat were banned as well but 1 PC Makcu has already been detected on Val for months now. I'd guess that in a couple more months from now they will try to eliminate any kind of illicit streaming from the main PC, if they are even able to at all.
i say fck cs and fck valo, uninstall everything and hit that gym
01/18/2026 17:54 Toxic..#6
Thats a good thread, yes Valorant cheating its died at the moment, most of friends i know stop cheating on the game, after the CR3 being added 80% of good privates ik also got discontinued

I just know 2 cheats that are actually undetected, don't really belive Hardware cheats anymore since it's just matter of time to any hardware get detect

And yes spoofing for val is dead, better buy new parts or wait 4 months



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Originally Posted by Bodanator View Post
VAC has been such a joke for so many years now I can't even remember the last time CS wasn't unplayable. The only thing keeping that game afloat is the child gambling and nostalgia.

Faceit sets a pretty good example and they are probably the second best ac out there but still somehow miles behind VALORANT. I heard there was recently a Makcu 1 PC wave and some users of my 2-PC AI cheat were banned as well but 1 PC Makcu has already been detected on Val for months now. I'd guess that in a couple more months from now they will try to eliminate any kind of illicit streaming from the main PC, if they are even able to at all.
Valorant was literally Faceit Source but with an driver that start before anything else, if faceit do this they will have the same results

Also half of faceit ac devs also work for Val

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How would 2-PC setups even get detected? Honestly curious since I don't know how 2-Pc setups even work.
They need hardwares and connections so Riot detect these things

Like DMA they detect FW, etc
01/20/2026 00:03 Idklmao61#7
Yeah tbh vanguard is winning right now and I'm not mad either I hope the cheating problem is fully solved one day one of the reasons I got back into it after years and years of restraining myself is because not all but lots of ppl are honestly pure scum these days there's lots of horrible sht that goes on and you'll never get any respect whether your legit or not, the amount of bullying and fkd up sht especially being amplified with the way social media has become so intertwined with gaming nowadays like you just may aswell just aimbot the piece of shts lol

2nd big reason is why should I restrain myself when it seems no one else does, I was just ahead of the curb years ago and never should've stopped cheating man the second it became more accessible and everyone else caught on they didn't think twice about it and the cheating problem just got so much worse

Anyways I agree with what your saying about pretty much everything that isn't private (which gl finding one that isnt a scam theyre pretty much non-existant) is unsafe right now, the ways to detect makcu have actually been public for a long time now, there was also someone here named CypherCircuit talking about it not long ago but even before he mentioned it I remember seeing old UC posts outlining how the way those devices work and report back to the mouse is abnormal and sticks out and I'm guessing its exactly how they're catching ppl in manual review

Which brings me to my next point that everyone seems to be looking past.. I have a feeling anyone in high immo with a capture card is automatically flagged for manual review lol barely anyone has capture cards ppl that do are a veryyy small percentage of the player base and it becomes an even smaller percentage in specific higher elos on specific expensive low latency capture cards. So it's a vicious cycle rn imo lmao. Not just that but the AI server side aim checks are apparently very fkn strong now and a slightly done wrong config is probably enough to get you flagged at minimum..

I wouldn't buy into anyone telling you ferrum is way safer than makcu either btw if makcu is truly detected in manuals right now which i believe they are ferrums probably are too
01/20/2026 00:23 .KaiZy#8
"ndi detected"
"udp detected"

laff
01/20/2026 00:54 Idklmao61#9
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"ndi detected"
"udp detected"

laff
Not the guy that said that but it somewhat doesn't matter if aiming devices themselves are detected in manual reviews. I would assume OBS NDI is safe only at resolutions that lots of streamers use that make sense. UDP I don't know about I've never tried and don't have a need to but it's done through OBS from my understanding and regardless if it wasn't they'd still be flagging you for it. One of the big things here is there is basically no way to capture the screen without being flagged for manual review but also there's not really any aiming device that can make it past a manual review too.
01/20/2026 02:01 Toxic..#10
Thing is, Riot really care about the game and they will detect whatever is new unless they can't touch on it
01/20/2026 04:27 .MOON.#11
It's hard to ignore the fact that the current iteration of input devices have glaring flaws. We should see a wave here any time really.
01/20/2026 04:48 .KaiZy#12
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Not the guy that said that but it somewhat doesn't matter if aiming devices themselves are detected in manual reviews. I would assume OBS NDI is safe only at resolutions that lots of streamers use that make sense. UDP I don't know about I've never tried and don't have a need to but it's done through OBS from my understanding and regardless if it wasn't they'd still be flagging you for it. One of the big things here is there is basically no way to capture the screen without being flagged for manual review but also there's not really any aiming device that can make it past a manual review too.
Use aim device that isn't detected then(they exist). Same for capture method, they exist. One day someone will post it on UC so people can go back to pasteing give it a couple weeks.

Yes neither NDI nor UDP are detected, obviously if your canvas is 300x300 you'll get banned in manual.
01/26/2026 16:58 Femboys#13
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i say fck cs and fck valo, uninstall everything and hit that gym
I'm about to give up on this game because Vanguard just detects almost everything. The other stuff they don't detect, I will never get my hands on
01/26/2026 18:47 moonsz#14
Just use Ferrum with a capture card and 2 PCs. Problem solved.
01/27/2026 07:37 Toxic..#15
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Just use Ferrum with a capture card and 2 PCs. Problem solved.
Expensive setup for a bad color aim fr, better play legit