Internal vs External

09/02/2025 05:35 ug4412#1
New to EFT chairs, haven't cheesed in quite some time (>5 years). Looking to get back into it. I have been seriously considering HM, Yazzn, Foxyz, ELOCarry. Unless I am mistaken, it seems like all of them are external except for ELO's new V2 (in beta). Not really looking to 2PC + DMA. Is there a major difference between Internal vs External?

I will be mostly playing Silent/Humanized with zero desire to rage. Security is the absolute most important feature for me, hence my question if there is a big difference when it comes to security.

TIA for all input!
09/02/2025 06:14 CosmoCheats#2
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Originally Posted by ug4412 View Post
New to EFT chairs, haven't cheesed in quite some time (>5 years). Looking to get back into it. I have been seriously considering HM, Yazzn, Foxyz, ELOCarry. Unless I am mistaken, it seems like all of them are external except for ELO's new V2 (in beta). Not really looking to 2PC + DMA. Is there a major difference between Internal vs External?

I will be mostly playing Silent/Humanized with zero desire to rage. Security is the absolute most important feature for me, hence my question if there is a big difference when it comes to security.

TIA for all input!
Depends on the quality really. Some providers make a really good internal and others make a really good external. Either of them aren’t “safer” just depends on who’s making it I guess
09/02/2025 16:21 chamsquaddelta#3
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Originally Posted by ug4412 View Post
New to EFT chairs, haven't cheesed in quite some time (>5 years). Looking to get back into it. I have been seriously considering HM, Yazzn, Foxyz, ELOCarry. Unless I am mistaken, it seems like all of them are external except for ELO's new V2 (in beta). Not really looking to 2PC + DMA. Is there a major difference between Internal vs External?

I will be mostly playing Silent/Humanized with zero desire to rage. Security is the absolute most important feature for me, hence my question if there is a big difference when it comes to security.

TIA for all input!
Externals are usually meant as as a security first option since Battleye has worse checks for them. Basically the Anticheat only has significant detection power with Internal cheats and Externals bypass this by simply being External. IIRC the longest running cheats (detection wise) are all External. The major downside with External is that they usually have less features (no vischeck etc....). Some developers have taken the time to reimplement these entire game systems into their External product so they can have comparable features to Internals. Something like ********* is an example of this, many full game systems rebuilt from scratch to implement vischeck, grenade prediction, and many more. I only recommend ********* due to it being the ONLY External cheat with vischeck. (Kernaim has it too, but it was stolen from the ********* source and I wouldn't recommend them anyway due to their product quality being poor.)
09/03/2025 01:19 mildnsj#4
Generally speaking, most externals do not write to memory and it does not draw visual functions in the game directly and that's why it is considered to be more safer, but no one really can say 100% if you get a external it would be more undetected.
For example some providers only chams option which is considered to be internal was and still is undetected for a long time now. While some externals definetly have been detected (*hope you get what I mean).

You can and should try out dma since in my experience BE is prob the worst kernel-level anticheat rn so it should do the trick.
09/03/2025 20:52 chamsquaddelta#5
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Originally Posted by mildnsj View Post
Generally speaking, most externals do not write to memory and it does not draw visual functions in the game directly and that's why it is considered to be more safer, but no one really can say 100% if you get a external it would be more undetected.
For example some providers only chams option which is considered to be internal was and still is undetected for a long time now. While some externals definetly have been detected (*hope you get what I mean).

You can and should try out dma since in my experience BE is prob the worst kernel-level anticheat rn so it should do the trick.
this is just retarded DMA brainwash. no clue why people are recommending you go spent 200$+ on a card, 100$+ on firmware, 500$ on a 2nd PC just to be "SLIGHTLY" safer. just buy an external cheat and forget it about it. externals are going to be the safer, easier option. all these DMA cheats are just the same pasted source sold to people over and over again anyway, nothing groundbreaking in any of them.
09/05/2025 09:24 L1ney#6
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Originally Posted by chamsquaddelta View Post
Externals are usually meant as as a security first option since Battleye has worse checks for them. Basically the Anticheat only has significant detection power with Internal cheats and Externals bypass this by simply being External. IIRC the longest running cheats (detection wise) are all External. The major downside with External is that they usually have less features (no vischeck etc....). Some developers have taken the time to reimplement these entire game systems into their External product so they can have comparable features to Internals. Something like ********* is an example of this, many full game systems rebuilt from scratch to implement vischeck, grenade prediction, and many more. I only recommend ********* due to it being the ONLY External cheat with vischeck. (Kernaim has it too, but it was stolen from the ********* source and I wouldn't recommend them anyway due to their product quality being poor.)
lost me on your first sentence, BE in eft literally wasn`t able to implement a lot of security against internals simply because the game is c# indi piece of crap

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Originally Posted by mildnsj View Post
Generally speaking, most externals do not write to memory and it does not draw visual functions in the game directly and that's why it is considered to be more safer, but no one really can say 100% if you get a external it would be more undetected.
For example some providers only chams option which is considered to be internal was and still is undetected for a long time now. While some externals definetly have been detected (*hope you get what I mean).

You can and should try out dma since in my experience BE is prob the worst kernel-level anticheat rn so it should do the trick.
most externals do write memory ( especially in EFT lol ) and most likely might use drawing methods that are flagged by BE long time ago
09/05/2025 12:08 chamsquaddelta#7
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Originally Posted by L1ney View Post
lost me on your first sentence, BE in eft literally wasn`t able to implement a lot of security against internals simply because the game is c# indi piece of crap


most externals do write memory ( especially in EFT lol ) and most likely might use drawing methods that are flagged by BE long time ago
lost me on your first sentence. the game being mono means nothing, battleye's internal game module still appears to be smacking these internal providers. just look at dopamine, instantly dtc garbage that's why they're exiting. now look at stupid pasted externals like yours, no bans at all. :)
09/05/2025 21:58 Player1Ready#8
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Originally Posted by ug4412 View Post
New to EFT chairs, haven't cheesed in quite some time (>5 years). Looking to get back into it. I have been seriously considering HM, Yazzn, Foxyz, ELOCarry. Unless I am mistaken, it seems like all of them are external except for ELO's new V2 (in beta). Not really looking to 2PC + DMA. Is there a major difference between Internal vs External?

I will be mostly playing Silent/Humanized with zero desire to rage. Security is the absolute most important feature for me, hence my question if there is a big difference when it comes to security.

TIA for all input!
If you're looking for safety, check out Cheat Army's EFT. Has been UD since 2022 - and it has silent aim.

Product is internal, and it'll perform better with no FPS issues etc. Check it out!