Engine owning or Phantom overlay

I'm new and want to know more about the 2 providers engine owning and phantom overlay what is the difference between the 2 providers? in terms of security, config, aimbot, etc.

Thank you :)

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Originally Posted by Imwinter I'm new and want to know more about the 2 providers engine owning and phantom overlay what is the difference between the 2 providers? in terms of security, config, aimbot, etc. Thank you :)

If you care about your account go with PO. If you don’t and you also don’t mind some downtime after the updates go with EO. Simple as that.

If you care about your main account and want to play legitimately, it's best to go with PO. However, if you're the type of person who wants to rage hacking and doesn't care about the accounts, then EO is an option.
Considering on the security, I recommend PO

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Originally Posted by Quarantined90 If you care about your account go with PO. If you don’t and you also don’t mind some downtime after the updates go with EO. Simple as that.

The downtimes of EO ain’t much at all lately lol, has their reasonings too when they add tons of new detections almost every update, which is kinda the reason of slower updates, no time is lost either.

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Originally Posted by alma5200 If you care about your main account and want to play legitimately, it's best to go with PO. However, if you're the type of person who wants to rage hacking and doesn't care about the accounts, then EO is an option. Considering on the security, I recommend PO

ahh i see so the config aimbot on PO is more legitimately than eo yeah? rn im jjust considering the the price on eo 20 euro can freeze subs but PO cant :s

I would go with PO since it has far better security and ideal for closet cheating. EO is a good cheat when it comes to function but since its internal and built for rage cheating it struggles with poor security. Some PO users have not been banned in years compared to EO which has had 5 detections in 5 months according to the announcements on there site.

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Originally Posted by ape1 I would go with PO since it has far better security and ideal for closet cheating. EO is a good cheat when it comes to function but since its internal and built for rage cheating it struggles with poor security. Some PO users have not been banned in years compared to EO which has had 5 detections in 5 months according to the announcements on there site.

Let’s not forget due detections that can lead to false positives, and yet again u talk poorly about their security and didn’t reply on EO’s post xddd. They’re simply a target since day one and did had some bad months and back fully UD again.

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Originally Posted by DennisMeister69 Let’s not forget due detections that can lead to false positives, and yet again u talk poorly about their security and didn’t reply on EO’s post xddd. They’re simply a target since day one and did had some bad months and back fully UD again.

I did respond to EO on there post they stopped responding. To say that EO isn't a internal rage cheat that gets detected frequently is disingenuous. According to there announcements on there website they have been detected 5 times in 5 months. They have poor security because they are a internal rage cheat. Most users do not care because they are raging. The problem comes with the ignorance of new cheaters that buy EO and expect to keep there accounts. Most of these new cheaters are looking for something security focused. Your point about them being a target is true because they are a rage cheat. Anti cheats will always put there resources towards detecting rage cheats since they break the game for others. PO has had a target on there back as well but yet they stay undetected.

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Originally Posted by ape1 I did respond to EO on there post they stopped responding. To say that EO isn't a internal rage cheat that gets detected frequently is disingenuous. According to there announcements on there website they have been detected 5 times in 5 months. They have poor security because they are a internal rage cheat. Most users do not care because they are raging. The problem comes with the ignorance of new cheaters that buy EO and expect to keep there accounts. Most of these new cheaters are looking for something security focused. Your point about them being a target is true because they are a rage cheat. Anti cheats will always put there resources towards detecting rage cheats since they break the game for others. PO has had a target on there back as well but yet they stay undetected.

with spoofer included*

They do care about security, but it's frustrating that the Anti-Cheat team focuses on just one provider instead of addressing more threats and keeping up with targeted detection in most updates. They've had to fix these issues many times before real detections are even made, which is why updates are sometimes delayed.

The past few months have been a real mess because of Ricochet's flawed protection, and it seems like the coder overlooked the detections too (desperate detections as EO has called out), especially during the AC checks. This has mostly caused false positives, and the developers have called it out. AC teams like EAC and Vanguard have made similar mistakes too, and one of Ricochet's recent issues with signatures has led to a lot of headaches as well.

EO isn't just for rage hacking btw, it doesn't even include features like AutoWall or AntiAim on characters, their focus is on legitimate gameplay, and an improved version is on the way.

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Originally Posted by DennisMeister69 Let’s not forget due detections that can lead to false positives, and yet again u talk poorly about their security and didn’t reply on EO’s post xddd. They’re simply a target since day one and did had some bad months and back fully UD again.

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Originally Posted by ape1 [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

My bad, i completely missed this, i went checking for it ;D

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Originally Posted by DennisMeister69 with spoofer included* They do care about security, but it's frustrating that the Anti-Cheat team focuses on just one provider instead of addressing more threats and keeping up with targeted detection in most updates. They've had to fix these issues many times before real detections are even made, which is why updates are sometimes delayed. The past few months have been a real mess because of Ricochet's flawed protection, and it seems like the coder overlooked the detections too, especially during the AC checks. This has mostly caused false positives, and the developers have called it out. AC teams like EAC and Vanguard have made similar mistakes too, and one of Ricochet's recent issues with signatures has led to a lot of headaches as well. EO isn't just for rage hacking btw, it doesn't even include features like AutoWall or AntiAim on characters, their focus is on legitimate gameplay, and an improved version is on the way.

Everything you said here is true but doesn't refute my point that they have poor security as you demonstrated. Users do not care about why the detections happened they happened and now there accounts are gone. What would be the point of using EO for legit gameplay if your going to be banned anyways? There are far better options for legit gameplay and its not close.

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Originally Posted by DennisMeister69 My bad, i completely missed this, i went checking for it ;D

All good just wanted to clear up the confusion.

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Originally Posted by ape1 Everything you said here is true but doesn't refute my point that they have poor security as you demonstrated. Users do not care about why the detections happened they happened and now there accounts are gone. What would be the point of using EO for legit gameplay if your going to be banned anyways? There are far better options for legit gameplay and its not close. All good just wanted to clear up the confusion.

You're calling it poor security without any evidence. EO has been around since 2014 and has consistently led the CoD scene over all other providers since day one, they know what they’re doing. If the AC team focused on something like Phantom Overlay, it would give Zebleer a huge headache and lead to a lot of delayed updates since he’s handling it alone. It’s human to make mistakes or overlook new types of detections.

From what i've read on the EO forums, they’ve been working on something special for a while now.

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Let’s not overlook that externals tend to get detected less often because Ricochet hardly pushes updates. Their detection methods seem pretty clueless until someone with a bit of common sense finally comes along to help out xdd

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Where i can see these thread sir? I want to look it.

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Originally Posted by Imwinter Where i can see these thread sir? I want to look it.

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