Is Perm Spoofer dangerous?

Hey guys, i saw a perm spoofer, 15$ for 1 week and it says "it's permanet after 1 use".

What does that mean, if i use 1 time, will it be permanet?

I'm HWID banned in Rust, will it work for me?

Motherboard: ASUS Prime B460M-K, No BIOS Flashes or anything.

Hello Okan! First of all recommend stay away from not known providers. Will be very difficult to get high quality permanent spoof/support for 15$, also does not make sense what you mentioned, if is permanent will be one time use and don't need to spoof again after 1 week.

Personally I want to invite you to use our spoofer, success rate is near 95% on RUST, also we support your motherboard. Will be one time use and you don't need to worry about getting banned again unless you cheat.

Also you can request 10% discount if you come from Epvp!

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Originally Posted by okan0001as Hey guys, i saw a perm spoofer, 15$ for 1 week and it says "it's permanet after 1 use". What does that mean, if i use 1 time, will it be permanet? I'm HWID banned in Rust, will it work for me? Motherboard: ASUS Prime B460M-K, No BIOS Flashes or anything.

Most perm spoof providers can not properly spoof asus motherboards, they'll tell you to EFI Boot spoof with a USB, not really convenient. I recommend using temp spoofers.

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Originally Posted by okan0001as Hey guys, i saw a perm spoofer, 15$ for 1 week and it says "it's permanet after 1 use". What does that mean, if i use 1 time, will it be permanet? I'm HWID banned in Rust, will it work for me? Motherboard: ASUS Prime B460M-K, No BIOS Flashes or anything.

I wouldn’t use a perm spoofer, it have been seen multiple times that they can be low quality and mess with your system.

Temp spoofers are in general better, they are only lasting as long you buy it for, but perm spoofers cannot guarantee that it will stay ud forever either.

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Originally Posted by lort1234 I wouldn’t use a perm spoofer, it have been seen multiple times that they can be low quality and mess with your system. Temp spoofers are in general better, they are only lasting as long you buy it for, but perm spoofers cannot guarantee that it will stay ud forever either.

Low quality temp spoofers and cheats can also mess with your system? And how can one be better when they serve the same purpose? Clear personal bias here.

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Originally Posted by !JoelR Low quality temp spoofers and cheats can also mess with your system? And how can one be better when they serve the same purpose? Clear personal bias here.

It´s way harder to maintain and develop a temp spoofer hence quality tends to be poor when it comes to perm ones in comparison.

Perm can usually not spoof some NICs and PCI devices aswell. Not to mention you need to run raid0 to spoof your disk serials.

Edgey is legit and probably the only one id recommend.

The only personal usecase i see for perm spoofers is if you were previously hardware banned and dont plan on cheating anymore.

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Originally Posted by !JoelR Low quality temp spoofers and cheats can also mess with your system? And how can one be better when they serve the same purpose? Clear personal bias here.

Yes low quality temp spoofer do also exist, but the market aren’t flooded with them like market is for perm spoofer, you can find “perm” spoofer for 5$ and up, I don’t believe you will find any temp spoofer that is working for 5$.

Temp spoofers are less likely to mess with your system, because they as the name suggest is temporary, meaning they return your system back to how it previously was before the spoof. The :pimp:same things cannot be said with perm spoofers, I don’t know how many have complained about a perm spoofer they have used that simply changes the motherboard name to some random numbers, alone that show the quality of the perm spoofer market, in general.

I believe temp spoofers are better because the return your system as it was when you undo the spoof (usually restart the pc) and the over all quality of the temp spoofer market is higher in my opinion.

Yes this might be a biased opinion, but OP asked in a public forum where people are allowed to share their views on the topic, I believe my opinion is just as justified as any other that replied to the thread, no matter the opinion on it.

Don’t see what’s wrong in sharing one’s opinion, OP asked here and I answered. :pimp:

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Originally Posted by alexpsp00 It´s way harder to maintain and develop a temp spoofer hence quality tends to be poor when it comes to perm ones in comparison. Perm can usually not spoof some NICs and PCI devices aswell. Not to mention you need to run raid0 to spoof your disk serials. Edgey is legit and probably the only one id recommend. The only personal usecase i see for perm spoofers is if you were previously hardware banned and dont plan on cheating anymore.

I agree, but I also feel like it's sensible to use perms if you are closeting, I haven't been banned in years, if I was running a temp the whole time then the added cost would've been significant.

NIC's and other peripherals aren't a problem to perm spoof anymore, might just not have been adopted yet in the EAC scene.

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Originally Posted by lort1234 Yes low quality temp spoofer do also exist, but the market aren’t flooded with them like market is for perm spoofer, you can find “perm” spoofer for 5$ and up, I don’t believe you will find any temp spoofer that is working for 5$. Temp spoofers are less likely to mess with your system, because they as the name suggest is temporary, meaning they return your system back to how it previously was before the spoof. The :pimp:same things cannot be said with perm spoofers, I don’t know how many have complained about a perm spoofer they have used that simply changes the motherboard name to some random numbers, alone that show the quality of the perm spoofer market, in general. I believe temp spoofers are better because the return your system as it was when you undo the spoof (usually restart the pc) and the over all quality of the temp spoofer market is higher in my opinion. Yes this might be a biased opinion, but OP asked in a public forum where people are allowed to share their views on the topic, I believe my opinion is just as justified as any other that replied to the thread, no matter the opinion on it. Don’t see what’s wrong in sharing one’s opinion, OP asked here and I answered. :pimp:

Never said you couldn't share your opinion, but now that you're "the voice of the rust forum" you will be held to higher standards ;) :p

Never heard of anyone competent have issues with actual well known perm spoofers, most users encounter issues because of the windows re-installation.

I mean the rust cheat market is also flooded the same way, if you pick the cheap shit at the bottom of course you'll encounter issues.

once you do perm spoof its quite hard to ever revert all changes back to normal if you ever wanted to. Your msinfo32 will always be a bit weird, which is why i myself have never used one. but if you only care about cheating its fine i guess.

but the known providers such as edgey are very good and your system wont be fucked like some think it will, its just if you were to resell the pc to someone who knows about pc stuff, the could see your pc has been messed with.

perm spoofers are great if your a cheater and dont want to keep spoofing everry month with a temp spoofer and pay a subscription also you dont have to risk the spoofer getting detected.

But my best advice is dont get banned.

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Originally Posted by !JoelR Never said you couldn't share your opinion, but now that you're "the voice of the rust forum" you will be held to higher standards ;) :p Never heard of anyone competent have issues with actual well known perm spoofers, most users encounter issues because of the windows re-installation. I mean the rust cheat market is also flooded the same way, if you pick the cheap shit at the bottom of course you'll encounter issues.

Please don't see me as "The voice of the rust forum" i am just maintaining the list needed here, it is purply community driven at least i hope so! But thanks :handsdown:

I think saying that it's only people that are incompetent that have issues with perm spoofers, is a little on the good side. I don't think a user shouldn't have any knowledge on how to use a perm spoofer for it to be a good experience.

Yes rust market is indeed flooded with low quality cheats. I don't tell people not to use perm spoofers, they can do what they want, im just not gonna personally recommend people using any, since know my experience i know too many people that have had issues with them, and far less that have had issues with temp spoofers.

When that is said, perm spoofers are a legit "tool" that people can choose to use, they can look at the list for recommended providers if they do decide to use them, i won't ever remove any provider because i personally don't like them, so they can be "safe" with the options on the list. :pimp:

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Originally Posted by !JoelR I agree, but I also feel like it's sensible to use perms if you are closeting, I haven't been banned in years, if I was running a temp the whole time then the added cost would've been significant. NIC's and other peripherals aren't a problem to perm spoof anymore, might just not have been adopted yet in the EAC scene. Never said you couldn't share your opinion, but now that you're "the voice of the rust forum" you will be held to higher standards ;) :p Never heard of anyone competent have issues with actual well known perm spoofers, most users encounter issues because of the windows re-installation. I mean the rust cheat market is also flooded the same way, if you pick the cheap shit at the bottom of course you'll encounter issues.

I'm beyond count on how many motherboards I've had to fix up because of careless perm providers who don't know what they're doing. Honestly, there have been a ton of them. Even though it's not our job as a temp provider, we have little choice but to step in. Some boards are even flashed and then updated, which causes them to lock up. This is not only damaging but also quite frustrating.

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Originally Posted by lort1234 I wouldn’t use a perm spoofer, it have been seen multiple times that they can be low quality and mess with your system. Temp spoofers are in general better, they are only lasting as long you buy it for, but perm spoofers cannot guarantee that it will stay ud forever either.

Using permanent spoofers from different providers for over 1 year and hadn't any issues, tried different PC and almost all games, it has issues only with literally: cheap & chinese PC or Laptops

After all the info on this thread I decided to perm spoof myself after being against them for my whole life. I used halalware and I bought a new ssd to be extra secure. My HWID is unbanned, the games I did it for were rust and Fortnite. It worked like a charm and my pc isn’t messed up, my msinfo still looks legit. I can now say if your wanting to perm spoof it’s worth it and saved me having to buy a brand new mobo and reseat my whole pc.

If you don't know what are you doing and don't have someone experienced to guide you don't do it because most of them will eventually brick your motherboard and you know how is it, user issue no refund by most sellers + bricked motherboard. Just get reported.lol and don't worry about it.

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Originally Posted by IntegrityCheats Using permanent spoofers from different providers for over 1 year and hadn't any issues, tried different PC and almost all games, it has issues only with literally: cheap & chinese PC or Laptops

I don’t share the same opinion, i hear about too many people having issues with their systems and also eventually getting banned using a perm spoofer, unless they regularly spoofer, at which is doesn’t make any sense to use a perm spoofer and could just as well use a temp one.

If people really wanna be “unbanned” they should sell their pc and buy a new one, or change the parts needed to pass the wanted AC.

One of the main problems i have with perm spoofers, is the working of it. Nothing about a “perm” spoofer will guarantee that the AC won’t catch your spoofing method/serials at some point, making it a temporary unban at best for a long duration.

But this is just my opinion after seeing too many people with issues from perm spoofers.