Anyway to get a account out the shadow loop?

I've been playing on my main account since mw2019 without issues (with and without cheats lol). However up until mwIII when warzone 3 came out I got spam reported and sent to the shadow realm. I've been in the shadow loop ever since. Tried mostly every thing such as using a perm spoofer, reinstalling windows and playing with basically only cod installed (and maybe spotify or discord, other misc apps). But nothing worked.

I'd assume id have to just perm spoof again and start using a new account, but that would be the last resort since this is my main that I have grinded on since mw2019 came out. Mind you I haven't used cheats since around December of last year, which was well before I started getting shadowed.

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Originally Posted by warps I've been playing on my main account since mw2019 without issues (with and without cheats lol). However up until mwIII when warzone 3 came out I got spam reported and sent to the shadow realm. I've been in the shadow loop ever since. Tried mostly every thing such as using a perm spoofer, reinstalling windows and playing with basically only cod installed (and maybe spotify or discord, other misc apps). But nothing worked. I'd assume id have to just perm spoof again and start using a new account, but that would be the last resort since this is my main that I have grinded on since mw2019 came out. Mind you I haven't used cheats since around December of last year, which was well before I started getting shadowed.

No need to perm spoof, its Account based. Nothing to do with ur Hwid as you perm spoofed already. Nothing you can do, its luck based if an Account is good or not.
I myself have an Verdansk Account with high Stats and was actively played on whole WZ1 and never played on trash WZ2 to risk an DC on it.
Now on WZ3 no SB at all, max lvl , T250 ranked, everything maxxed out. Basically lucky to have such an good Account.

I tested myself with other Accounts on an seperate PC with different hwid profiles , different Account ages, Injected, not inejcted, afk methods. Theres nothing you can do some Accounts just get SB and its over. I would delete the Activision on it so you can keep Multiplayer on Bnet/Steam and start a new one. Better trying a new one instead of hoping for the old one never to come out of the loop. Waste of time.

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Originally Posted by warps I've been playing on my main account since mw2019 without issues (with and without cheats lol). However up until mwIII when warzone 3 came out I got spam reported and sent to the shadow realm. I've been in the shadow loop ever since. Tried mostly every thing such as using a perm spoofer, reinstalling windows and playing with basically only cod installed (and maybe spotify or discord, other misc apps). But nothing worked. I'd assume id have to just perm spoof again and start using a new account, but that would be the last resort since this is my main that I have grinded on since mw2019 came out. Mind you I haven't used cheats since around December of last year, which was well before I started getting shadowed.

What do you mean by shadowban loop?? i have heard this term before but i have never been in the "shadow ban loop" my accs get shadowed then lifted and then i am able to play a lot before getting shadowed again, how many matches are you able to play when the SB is lifted ?? perma spoof is ass.
Did you try using another account with different out come?? i ask this because i am fully convinced that an account can earn trust back, try using a different and see if you don´t get shadowed within 3 or 4 matches, if that is the case then yeah it is that the account is flagged

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Originally Posted by lukedorian What do you mean by shadowban loop?? i have heard this term before but i have never been in the "shadow ban loop" my accs get shadowed then lifted and then i am able to play a lot before getting shadowed again, how many matches are you able to play when the SB is lifted ?? perma spoof is ass. Did you try using another account with different out come?? i ask this because i am fully convinced that an account can earn trust back, try using a different and see if you don´t get shadowed within 3 or 4 matches, if that is the case then yeah it is that the account is flagged

By shadow loop i essentially mean that my main account has been shadow banned over 25 times since warzone 3 came out. The amount of games I can play in between shadows basically depends on how butthurt I can make someone. maybe one game, maybe a few days, it really depends.

I tried new account but that one got shadowed. Which isn't too surprising since it was brand new. im trying a new account on steam currently on a old activision i had and it seems to be fine for now. (this was pretty short lived)

Try getting an aged one but if you can play “a few days” then it is account related for sure.

as cadyss said above, there is no fix what so ever to shadow bans. buying or creating a new account is useless too. the fact is cod is a pile of shit that caters to the average crowd. they don’t care; in their mind an infinite loop that wrongly shadows their top players is a necessary evil to keep their 98% of players who also spend money.

as shit of a move as this is, it works and is an effective way to stop cheating (specifically rage cheating). closest cheating won’t stop, but you have to be so secretive with your cheating that it’s hardly even cheating.

your only option is to tone your cheating to the most minimal levels so it’s an assist more than anything or keep making accounts and cycle shadows. the good days of being able to cheat on cod are long gone imo.

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Originally Posted by svint as cadyss said above, there is no fix what so ever to shadow bans. buying or creating a new account is useless too. the fact is cod is a pile of shit that caters to the average crowd. they don’t care; in their mind an infinite loop that wrongly shadows their top players is a necessary evil to keep their 98% of players who also spend money. as shit of a move as this is, it works and is an effective way to stop cheating (specifically rage cheating). closest cheating won’t stop, but you have to be so secretive with your cheating that it’s hardly even cheating. your only option is to tone your cheating to the most minimal levels so it’s an assist more than anything or keep making accounts and cycle shadows. the good days of being able to cheat on cod are long gone imo.

Ricochet team consists of bunch of chimps whom have no idea what they doing, and they hire or buy sources from other AC to detect and ban cheaters, but they are so bad at it they let others be the judge, letting most toxic community spam report and punish others if legit or actual cheater doesnt matter.

MEANWHILE people who buy aged trusted accounts which has lots of wz1 gameplay or OG accs goes back to 2010 and above go berserk with obvious walling and aimbotting, even reaching top on leaderboards without a single sb, no matter how many times you report them nothing happens to them, this is ACTIVISION for you, brain dead idiots who dont know what they doing.

And all this detections of providers, let it be PO, AA and other major providers, its never the actual ricoshit members but 3rd party or just part time consultant to do the job then leave.

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Originally Posted by DariXOne Ricochet team consists of bunch of chimps whom have no idea what they doing, and they hire or buy sources from other AC to detect and ban cheaters, but they are so bad at it they let others be the judge, letting most toxic community spam report and punish others if legit or actual cheater doesnt matter. MEANWHILE people who buy aged trusted accounts which has lots of wz1 gameplay or OG accs goes back to 2010 and above go berserk with obvious walling and aimbotting, even reaching top on leaderboards without a single sb, no matter how many times you report them nothing happens to them, this is ACTIVISION for you, brain dead idiots who dont know what they doing. And all this detections of providers, let it be PO, AA and other major providers, its never the actual ricoshit members but 3rd party or just part time consultant to do the job then leave.

yeah man, it's a shitty system, but again it works. it makes their cash cows feel empowered, especially if they're frustrated that some sweat (or a real cheater) they are hacksating gets live cooked in front of them. cod isn't stupid and they are extremely data driven in all their decisions (as seen w the SBMM analysis from them).

they don't care if you're the second coming of shroud, if you're ruining the experience for their playerbase who spends in large, you're out of there. but they'll never ban you, because they can't.

i haven't tried an OG WZ1 account. my primary is OG with tons of time on back then, but i caught a ban w Aimex during that fun era, so i am certain this has all but nuked that WZ1 account. those were some fun days though, being able to play (never done rage) and not be shadowed. maybe ill invest the assloads of money into a WZ1 account; probably not though :D

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Originally Posted by svint as cadyss said above, there is no fix what so ever to shadow bans. buying or creating a new account is useless too. the fact is cod is a pile of shit that caters to the average crowd. they don’t care; in their mind an infinite loop that wrongly shadows their top players is a necessary evil to keep their 98% of players who also spend money. as shit of a move as this is, it works and is an effective way to stop cheating (specifically rage cheating). closest cheating won’t stop, but you have to be so secretive with your cheating that it’s hardly even cheating. your only option is to tone your cheating to the most minimal levels so it’s an assist more than anything or keep making accounts and cycle shadows. the good days of being able to cheat on cod are long gone imo.

It's a good system to be honest, although i still often seen terrible 'closet' cheaters and end up reporting them myself , i can usually last a month or so without recieving a SB running RADAR+VISIBLE ONLY ESP + LOW FOV AIM, which is perfectly fine for me, besides not sure how good those days actually were.

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Originally Posted by todayta It's a good system to be honest, although i still often seen terrible 'closet' cheaters and end up reporting them myself , i can usually last a month or so without recieving a SB running RADAR+VISIBLE ONLY ESP + LOW FOV AIM, which is perfectly fine for me, besides not sure how good those days actually were.

You report other cheaters but cheat yourself you are pure scum

Here’s the thing with shadow bans, there’s not one right or wrong answer. It’s strictly circumstance based.


1. Did you make the account fresh off a permanent ban? If so in my experience and research those are the worst accounts to own, you have zero trust. And they have data against you. It’s basically them knowing how you play with a detected cheat. They know the difference between you cheating and not cheating. If you made an acccount off a fresh perm and got shadow banned instantly then delete that account and perm spoof. I would even go as far as bringing your modem back to isp and trading it in.

2. Aged accounts do not help what so ever, the only way an aged account would work is if the aged account had history with any identifiers in the computer it’s self, aka hardware ids.

3. You are better off making a brand new account on a brand new perm spoofed computer with a brand new IP. But do not go in and play popular modes like resurgence and br, play lockdown, play plunder, play multi player, rank up first and build trust. People normally don’t report in lockdown or plunder.

I have had the best results playing on new account and new hwid by doing method 3, took me 6 months to get my first shadow ban. And I got it only because I decided to play ranked. And was actually raging because I was so pissed.


And if you do get shadow banned, make support tickets over and over again.

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Originally Posted by todayta It's a good system to be honest, although i still often seen terrible 'closet' cheaters and end up reporting them myself , i can usually last a month or so without recieving a SB running RADAR+VISIBLE ONLY ESP + LOW FOV AIM, which is perfectly fine for me, besides not sure how good those days actually were.

What a weird thing to say....

But you are correct about one thing, 90% of all reports comes from actual cheaters like you, ironic isnt it?

Billion dollar company cant implement stats based banning, abnormal accuracy/behavior/skill but letting players be the judge of other players, this only proves how bad and lazy incompetent chimps they are.

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Originally Posted by todayta It's a good system to be honest, although i still often seen terrible 'closet' cheaters and end up reporting them myself , i can usually last a month or so without recieving a SB running RADAR+VISIBLE ONLY ESP + LOW FOV AIM, which is perfectly fine for me, besides not sure how good those days actually were.

those days were great. beyond just the cheating, as i frequently play an account without cheats to have natural fun at times, it was enjoyable not panicking off a shot through smoke because it was logical or even lucky leading to a week ban.

also why are you reporting cheaters when you cheat lol? i see this shit so much too, people who are blatantly cheating calling others cheats and reporting. the cheating crowd is so weird. shit got weird w crap like “cheese” or “legit settings”. mfs are in denial lol.

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Originally Posted by svint your only option is to tone your cheating to the most minimal levels so it’s an assist more than anything or keep making accounts and cycle shadows. the good days of being able to cheat on cod are long gone imo.

That's the thing though, I wouldn't care about getting shadowed if I actually was cheating. As I said in the original post the shadow bans started to happen after I quit cheating on COD. So weirdly enough I don't even think it's related to that. Who knows though, and honestly I stopped caring id rather play xdefiant now lol.

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Originally Posted by svint those days were great. beyond just the cheating, as i frequently play an account without cheats to have natural fun at times, it was enjoyable not panicking off a shot through smoke because it was logical or even lucky leading to a week ban. also why are you reporting cheaters when you cheat lol? i see this shit so much too, people who are blatantly cheating calling others cheats and reporting. the cheating crowd is so weird. shit got weird w crap like “cheese” or “legit settings”. mfs are in denial lol.

in my view if someone is too obviously cheating,they should be shadowbanned, simple as. it's funny you mention the smoke, ironically when i played normally i would frequently shoot through smoke and hold corners ads for periods of time, things i wouldn't do while playing with tools. either way i think the current SB system can be a little harsh, but if it punishes rage cheaters and leaves skilled closeters mostly alone, i consider it a good balance