Safe to cheat only on alt?

I'm a middling streamer, and I'm looking to start cheating to grow my viewership. My concern is potentially getting my main account banned. Both my b.net and steam account are over a decade old with a ton of games and skins, and the last thing I want is to lose them. Is it safe to cheat on my alt account on the same PC?

These are the precautions I plan on taking, let me know if this sounds safe! I plan on using PO, with ESP and very soft aim maybe ADS only. I will use a temp spoofer every time in launch PO. And when I'm done, I'll reboot before logging into my main account again.

Also what is a reputable temp spoofer that works with PO? Or is there a better cheat that includes a temp spoofer?

I only intend on cheating in COD/WZ. Having the cheats on my PC shouldn't alert any other anti-cheat?

Sorry for all the questions, I'm new when it comes to cheating.

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Originally Posted by p1ace11 I'm a middling streamer, and I'm looking to start cheating to grow my viewership. My concern is potentially getting my main account banned. Both my b.net and steam account are over a decade old with a ton of games and skins, and the last thing I want is to lose them. Is it safe to cheat on my alt account on the same PC? These are the precautions I plan on taking, let me know if this sounds safe! I plan on using PO, with ESP and very soft aim maybe ADS only. I will use a temp spoofer every time in launch PO. And when I'm done, I'll reboot before logging into my main account again. Also what is a reputable temp spoofer that works with PO? Or is there a better cheat that includes a temp spoofer? I only intend on cheating in COD/WZ. Having the cheats on my PC shouldn't alert any other anti-cheat? Sorry for all the questions, I'm new when it comes to cheating.

im sorry but cheating in 2023 and not eventually losing an account does not exist, you should just cheat for some fun and get 20 accounts, then just rinse and repeat

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Originally Posted by privacyendorser im sorry but cheating in 2023 and not eventually losing an account does not exist, you should just cheat for some fun and get 20 accounts, then just rinse and repeat

I don't mind losing my alt account(s) I just want to protect my main account, which I won't cheat on.

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Originally Posted by p1ace11 I don't mind losing my alt account(s) I just want to protect my main account, which I won't cheat on.

yea i see, then make sure when your'e loading up cheat that your bnet/steam accounts never see your original hwid so make sure you load cheats with spoofer always and you'll be fine as long as you fully restart pc before going to main account

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Originally Posted by p1ace11 I'm a middling streamer, and I'm looking to start cheating to grow my viewership. My concern is potentially getting my main account banned. Both my b.net and steam account are over a decade old with a ton of games and skins, and the last thing I want is to lose them. Is it safe to cheat on my alt account on the same PC? These are the precautions I plan on taking, let me know if this sounds safe! I plan on using PO, with ESP and very soft aim maybe ADS only. I will use a temp spoofer every time in launch PO. And when I'm done, I'll reboot before logging into my main account again. Also what is a reputable temp spoofer that works with PO? Or is there a better cheat that includes a temp spoofer? I only intend on cheating in COD/WZ. Having the cheats on my PC shouldn't alert any other anti-cheat? Sorry for all the questions, I'm new when it comes to cheating.

1. Cheating runs the risk of being banned no matter how safe you try to be, no precaution can save you from an actual detection. PhantomOverlay is the safest option for closet cheating though.

2. Don't run a spoofer of any kind unless you have already been previously HWID banned, temp spoofers are easily detected, you are literally adding an extra piece of unnecessary software that increases you chances of being banned.

3. If you get HWID banned you can pretty much kiss all of your accounts goodbye especially if you log into your main and your alt on the same PC

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Originally Posted by OPgamingCHAIR 1. Cheating runs the risk of being banned no matter how safe you try to be, no precaution can save you from an actual detection. PhantomOverlay is the safest option for closet cheating though. 2. Don't run a spoofer of any kind unless you have already been previously HWID banned, temp spoofers are easily detected, you are literally adding an extra piece of unnecessary software that increases you chances of being banned. 3. If you get HWID banned you can pretty much kiss all of your accounts goodbye especially if you log into your main and your alt on the same PC

Point 2. i disagree that they are "easily" detected. Artificial Aimings temp Spoofer is UD for 2+ years lol. Just about the Coder
But yes, not needed to use unless hwid baned.

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Originally Posted by OPgamingCHAIR 1. Cheating runs the risk of being banned no matter how safe you try to be, no precaution can save you from an actual detection. PhantomOverlay is the safest option for closet cheating though. 2. Don't run a spoofer of any kind unless you have already been previously HWID banned, temp spoofers are easily detected, you are literally adding an extra piece of unnecessary software that increases you chances of being banned. 3. If you get HWID banned you can pretty much kiss all of your accounts goodbye especially if you log into your main and your alt on the same PC

1. How is PhantomOverlay safer than ProofCore which has not had a detection?

2/3. These contradict eachother. Sure 2 can lead to a ban via spoofer, but if his intent is to cheat and protect his main account (using alts as a "shield" to cheat) then he'd definitely want to run a spoofer to avoid this issue. A ban every so often for a spoofer (even know some temp's don't get hit that often) is better than not running it and getting a main banned.

Use a temp spoofer get banned, its that simple. All reputable cheat providers recommend against using spoofers unless you are already HWID. Do what you want at the end of the day but its terrible advice to tell someone to use one.

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Originally Posted by OPgamingCHAIR Use a temp spoofer get banned, its that simple. All reputable cheat providers recommend against using spoofers unless you are already HWID. Do what you want at the end of the day but its terrible advice to tell someone to use one.

in his case using a temp spoofer makes sense because he is trying to protect his original hwid, so unless activision adds a new identifier, he will not get hwid banned if he triggers a perm ban

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Originally Posted by p1ace11 I'm a middling streamer, and I'm looking to start cheating to grow my viewership. My concern is potentially getting my main account banned. Both my b.net and steam account are over a decade old with a ton of games and skins, and the last thing I want is to lose them. Is it safe to cheat on my alt account on the same PC? These are the precautions I plan on taking, let me know if this sounds safe! I plan on using PO, with ESP and very soft aim maybe ADS only. I will use a temp spoofer every time in launch PO. And when I'm done, I'll reboot before logging into my main account again. Also what is a reputable temp spoofer that works with PO? Or is there a better cheat that includes a temp spoofer? I only intend on cheating in COD/WZ. Having the cheats on my PC shouldn't alert any other anti-cheat? Sorry for all the questions, I'm new when it comes to cheating.

Best thing to do is just don’t cheat, you care about your bnet and steam account, even if your playing on a alt account with a temp spoofer it’s not worth the risk if you care about your main.

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Originally Posted by KernalSantos Best thing to do is just don’t cheat, you care about your bnet and steam account, even if your playing on a alt account with a temp spoofer it’s not worth the risk if you care about your main.

He can do it if he wants BUT , he would need to load up the alt on the new spoofed hwid the first time ever he loaded up the Account. If he loaded the alt Account on his main hwid and the spoofer gets DT, they will log all previous hwids the Account been on, so his Main would also get permed.

So if he plans to use an alt he needs to create the alt already on the spoofed hwid + never ever load it up on his OG hwid. Most people fall over this simple step because its easy forgetable.

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Originally Posted by 000xx9 He can do it if he wants BUT , he would need to load up the alt on the new spoofed hwid the first time ever he loaded up the Account. If he loaded the alt Account on his main hwid and the spoofer gets DT, they will log all previous hwids the Account been on, so his Main would also get permed. So if he plans to use an alt he needs to create the alt already on the spoofed hwid + never ever load it up on his OG hwid. Most people fall over this simple step because its easy forgetable.

cod only sends hwid once you launch the game and it connects to demonware servers and then after about a minute or 2, it sends it

so its not too complicated, steam or battlenet dont collect any hwid for cod bans

Option #1
COD tends to HWID ban after 2+ perma bans. If you don't have a history of perma bans on your HWID, you can do this

When wanting to cheat on PO
- Inject PO
- Cheat on alt
- Restart PC when done

When legit on main
- Restart PC beforehand to kill anything lingering in memory (to be extra safe)
- Play legit on main

If you get banned on the cheat account
- Do not sign into your main
- Make a new BNET account
- Play Warzone for free legit on BNET account until SB
- If the SB lifts and stays lifted you shouldn't be HWID banned
- Can play on main after that

Option #2
Using a spoofer to try and separate the HWIDs between accounts

When wanting to cheat on PO
- Spoof
- Inject PO (PO loader should be locked to your spoof HWIDs)
- Cheat on alt
- Restart PC when done to kill cheat and spoof/clear memory

When legit on main
- Restart PC beforehand to kill anything lingering in memory (to be extra safe)
- Play legit on main

If you get banned on the cheat account
- Restart PC to kill everything
- Stop spoofing/using cheat
- Can play on main without spoof
- If decide to cheat again can follow option #2 with a new account after new spoof

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Originally Posted by zebleer Option #1 COD tends to HWID ban after 2+ perma bans. If you don't have a history of perma bans on your HWID, you can do this When wanting to cheat on PO - Inject PO - Cheat on alt - Restart PC when done When legit on main - Restart PC beforehand to kill anything lingering in memory (to be extra safe) - Play legit on main If you get banned on the cheat account - Do not sign into your main - Make a new BNET account - Play Warzone for free legit on BNET account until SB - If the SB lifts and stays lifted you shouldn't be HWID banned - Can play on main after that Option #2 Using a spoofer to try and separate the HWIDs between accounts When wanting to cheat on PO - Spoof - Inject PO (PO loader should be locked to your spoof HWIDs) - Cheat on alt - Restart PC when done to kill cheat and spoof/clear memory When legit on main - Restart PC beforehand to kill anything lingering in memory (to be extra safe) - Play legit on main If you get banned on the cheat account - Restart PC to kill everything - Stop spoofing/using cheat - Can play on main without spoof - If decide to cheat again can follow option #2 with a new account after new spoof

Nice guide :handsdown:

I have a somewhat similar question for the topic.

I am getting a new PC very soon, and im planning to use my old PC for alt cheating with PO and continue to play 100% legit on main on my new PC.

So my question is, if i get banned on a alt cheating on my old PC which i have used for years with my main, would my main get banned even tho im never gonna log it in on my old PC anymore ?