Can someone explain ggloder to me??

i have a few question about this rota bot.
So from what i read ggloader is only a core so this means i have to buy the rotations from 3rd party devs right?how expensive are those?
On the site i can select the sub type and what class i want to buy so do i buy the core for only 1 class or are those official rotation?and what is "retail basic"
and the difference between "private" and "normal" sub?Also whats private version and whats classic?Just classic or is it woltk or booth ??? And lets say i want to only play 1 spec and later on a few more if i like it,how much will it cost me and are there hidden fees ?are there good alternatives to ggloader?

it comes with rotations with the option to purchase (maybe) better ones from 3rd party rotation developers

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Originally Posted by Gothor2309 i have a few question about this rota bot. So from what i read ggloader is only a core so this means i have to buy the rotations from 3rd party devs right?how expensive are those? On the site i can select the sub type and what class i want to buy so do i buy the core for only 1 class or are those official rotation?and what is "retail basic" and the difference between "private" and "normal" sub?Also whats private version and whats classic?Just classic or is it woltk or booth ??? And lets say i want to only play 1 spec and later on a few more if i like it,how much will it cost me and are there hidden fees ?are there good alternatives to ggloader?

These are really questions you should be asking their support on their live chat, or on their discord which you can find on their post on elitepvp'rs or on their website.

But, to give you a breakdown, rotations do not come with the core framework, basically, you have to pay for access to each class in the framework unless you're paying for an All-in One, but you still need to have rotations for it from third-party developers unless you decide to use their Hekili addon. The difference between private and private are supposed to be private builds and a different driver I believe but I would suggest asking them as I forgot already.

There are other alternatives if that is too overwhelming for you to understand but it's going to depend on the version of wow you play and the type of content.

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Originally Posted by tamedbeast These are really questions you should be asking their support on their live chat, or on their discord which you can find on their post on elitepvp'rs or on their website. But, to give you a breakdown, rotations do not come with the core framework, basically, you have to pay for access to each class in the framework unless you're paying for an All-in One, but you still need to have rotations for it from third-party developers unless you decide to use their Hekili addon. The difference between private and private are supposed to be private builds and a different driver I believe but I would suggest asking them as I forgot already. There are other alternatives if that is too overwhelming for you to understand but it's going to depend on the version of wow you play and the type of content.

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Originally Posted by desglef it comes with rotations with the option to purchase (maybe) better ones from 3rd party rotation developers

aw crap, i was totally thinking AIMSHARP** as far as coming with core rotations. i like aimsharp but i hear ggloader is better if you can afford it

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Originally Posted by desglef aw crap, i was totally thinking AIMSHARP** as far as coming with core rotations. i like aimsharp but i hear ggloader is better if you can afford it

I mean, both A# and GGL are in a weird spot, they're not bad, but not the best in their category, in some other aspects, both are worth using if you don't mind dumping money into the rotations portion of it, but definitely not my first choice mostly because of QOL and Cost of 3rd party Rotations (mostly because I play all classes)

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Originally Posted by tamedbeast I mean, both A# and GGL are in a weird spot, they're not bad, but not the best in their category, in some other aspects, both are worth using if you don't mind dumping money into the rotations portion of it, but definitely not my first choice mostly because of QOL and Cost of 3rd party Rotations (mostly because I play all classes)

so out of everything, pixel based or internal with an unlocker, w/e, what would your top 3 be?

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Originally Posted by desglef so out of everything, pixel based or internal with an unlocker, w/e, what would your top 3 be?

There are a couple of unpublic pixel bots I use that I feel are strong all around in terms of PVE rotations and Quality of Life; as for unlockers, I know Daemonic has a lot of integrations at the moment with options for rotations, I don't really want to speak on the rotations on unlockers because I've not really been using any.

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Originally Posted by tamedbeast There are a couple of unpublic pixel bots I use that I feel are strong all around in terms of PVE rotations and Quality of Life; as for unlockers, I know Daemonic has a lot of integrations at the moment with options for rotations, I don't really want to speak on the rotations on unlockers because I've not really been using any.

when you have a free minute do you think you can check my PM?

GGL is the best all around pixel bot for high level players; realm 1st raiders, r1 pvpers, 0.1% mythic plus runners, etc. As a result, it's expensive. Mainly to deter unwanted customers.

"Retail X" is the license required to run the class you want (core as you mentioned), it's basically a key required to use the loader. It is a one time purchase, meaning, once you buy (e.g. Retail Rogue), you'll never need that class license again.

Once you have a class license or "key" you can use free rotations, but they're not going to perform anywhere near the level of paid developers. As for Classic, you would only need the free rotation as it performs just as well as any Classic rotation on any other paid provider (on GGL or a competitor).

A private subscription is a more secure version of the loader.

If you want to play another spec, you can either transfer your existing class license to a different class for a small fee, or you can buy another class license outright. They are 75€ each. Most people buy the AIO as it inevitably becomes cheaper.

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Originally Posted by 0x41^4 GGL is the best all around pixel bot for high level players; realm 1st raiders, r1 pvpers, 0.1% mythic plus runners, etc. As a result, it's expensive. Mainly to deter unwanted customers. "Retail X" is the license required to run the class you want (core as you mentioned), it's basically a key required to use the loader. It is a one time purchase, meaning, once you buy (e.g. Retail Rogue), you'll never need that class license again. Once you have a class license or "key" you can use free rotations, but they're not going to perform anywhere near the level of paid developers. As for Classic, you would only need the free rotation as it performs just as well as any Classic rotation on any other paid provider (on GGL or a competitor). A private subscription is a more secure version of the loader. If you want to play another spec, you can either transfer your existing class license to a different class for a small fee, or you can buy another class license outright. They are 75€ each. Most people buy the AIO as it inevitably becomes cheaper.

Regarding the private subscription, how is it safer and what kind of setup is required for it?

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Originally Posted by 0x41^4 GGL is the best all around pixel bot for high level players; realm 1st raiders, r1 pvpers, 0.1% mythic plus runners, etc. As a result, it's expensive. Mainly to deter unwanted customers. "Retail X" is the license required to run the class you want (core as you mentioned), it's basically a key required to use the loader. It is a one time purchase, meaning, once you buy (e.g. Retail Rogue), you'll never need that class license again. Once you have a class license or "key" you can use free rotations, but they're not going to perform anywhere near the level of paid developers. As for Classic, you would only need the free rotation as it performs just as well as any Classic rotation on any other paid provider (on GGL or a competitor). A private subscription is a more secure version of the loader. If you want to play another spec, you can either transfer your existing class license to a different class for a small fee, or you can buy another class license outright. They are 75€ each. Most people buy the AIO as it inevitably becomes cheaper.

This might have been true 5 years ago when they were the only ones in the scene, but I tell you 100% the cost has nothing to do with deterring customers at all. The core itself is actually not that badly priced, it's the 3rd party rotations that are astronomical priced and usually 3x-4x more a month than the actual core product, and I can tell you 1st hand that the rotation performance is not always better than other available options, while I'm not discounting GGL 3rd party devs, I think it would be a flat-out lie to say its best all-around in its current state.

1. QOL is far behind other rotations
2. The product is constantly behind on updates, sometimes weeks at a time (Aug Soon)?
3. The cost of rotations is insanely expensive
4. GGL is actually a modified version of AHK
5. Binding is done manually (other than the tool that a 3rd party just made that partially automates some of it)

I will however say that GGL is good in general, and is best at PVP, only because other pixel bots have not bothered to get involved in PVP. I will also say that they have been safe for many years, not because they have elite security, but mostly because there has been no focus on the product from Blizzard themselves. I have said this before, and I'll say it again: when 90% of the population is using one thing, it's usually that product that Blizzard is going to gravitate to and focus on to make examples out of; we have seen this as of recent, and we will likely see it again when something else becomes dominate.

If you're a PVP'r I 100% agree that it's the best around at this time, but if you're into PVE content, I do not agree; there are far better all-around alternatives with less drama from their 3rd party developers (you know who you are), that give you excellent value for your money and have constant updates and less drama and price gouging involved.

I would even suggest that players look at AimSharp for PVE over GGL at this point in time.

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Originally Posted by tamedbeast This might have been true 5 years ago when they were the only ones in the scene, but I tell you 100% the cost has nothing to do with deterring customers at all. The core itself is actually not that badly priced, it's the 3rd party rotations that are astronomical priced and usually 3x-4x more a month than the actual core product, and I can tell you 1st hand that the rotation performance is not always better than other available options, while I'm not discounting GGL 3rd party devs, I think it would be a flat-out lie to say its best all-around in its current state. 1. QOL is far behind other rotations 2. The product is constantly behind on updates, sometimes weeks at a time (Aug Soon)? 3. The cost of rotations is insanely expensive 4. GGL is actually a modified version of AHK 5. Binding is done manually (other than the tool that a 3rd party just made that partially automates some of it) I will however say that GGL is good in general, and is best at PVP, only because other pixel bots have not bothered to get involved in PVP. I will also say that they have been safe for many years, not because they have elite security, but mostly because there has been no focus on the product from Blizzard themselves. I have said this before, and I'll say it again: when 90% of the population is using one thing, it's usually that product that Blizzard is going to gravitate to and focus on to make examples out of; we have seen this as of recent, and we will likely see it again when something else becomes dominate. If you're a PVP'r I 100% agree that it's the best around at this time, but if you're into PVE content, I do not agree; there are far better all-around alternatives with less drama from their 3rd party developers (you know who you are), that give you excellent value for your money and have constant updates and less drama and price gouging involved. I would even suggest that players look at AimSharp for PVE over GGL at this point in time.

i pmed u awhile back

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Originally Posted by 0x41^4 GGL is the best all around pixel bot for high level players; realm 1st raiders, r1 pvpers, 0.1% mythic plus runners, etc. As a result, it's expensive. Mainly to deter unwanted customers. "Retail X" is the license required to run the class you want (core as you mentioned), it's basically a key required to use the loader. It is a one time purchase, meaning, once you buy (e.g. Retail Rogue), you'll never need that class license again. Once you have a class license or "key" you can use free rotations, but they're not going to perform anywhere near the level of paid developers. As for Classic, you would only need the free rotation as it performs just as well as any Classic rotation on any other paid provider (on GGL or a competitor). A private subscription is a more secure version of the loader. If you want to play another spec, you can either transfer your existing class license to a different class for a small fee, or you can buy another class license outright. They are 75€ each. Most people buy the AIO as it inevitably becomes cheaper.

Do you know of any boosting discords that hire players? I started using GGL after your recommendation and basically want to try and have it pay for itself or at least make some gold.

How do yall pay for GGL? Ive selected BTC but it wont let me pay because its in EUR?

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Originally Posted by tlamx2 How do yall pay for GGL? Ive selected BTC but it wont let me pay because its in EUR?

Probably best to talk to them on their pre-purchase Discord for that.