Current state of anti cheat

08/02/2023 23:44 chadkern#1
With many providers recently getting detected i wonder if some dma proivders will start to emerge. Does anyone currently offer dma for cod? i cant really find any but i think its time for some to start popping up. Obviously PO is still ud but with how many providers have been detected im skeptical as to when there might be a detection
08/03/2023 00:52 zebleer#2
There are several ways to detect DMA. EAC/BE/VG have been able to do it so I am sure eventually Ricochet will be able to as well

There is no bulletproof solution

You can buy a DMA device & all of that if you want but don't expect to be invincible

I am sure that more providers will pop up for COD that

1. Have slots
or
2. Require ID (bad imo, just do #1)
or
3. Are overpriced to limit user base (bad imo, just do #1)
or
4. Offer DMA software
or
5. Are invite only

All of these things can help remain UD but won't do the job unless paired with good security/methods & unique code
08/03/2023 02:04 chadkern#3
Quote:
Originally Posted by zebleer View Post
There are several ways to detect DMA. EAC/BE/VG have been able to do it so I am sure eventually Ricochet will be able to as well

There is no bulletproof solution

You can buy a DMA device & all of that if you want but don't expect to be invincible

I am sure that more providers will pop up for COD that

1. Have slots
or
2. Require ID (bad imo, just do #1)
or
3. Are overpriced to limit user base (bad imo, just do #1)
or
4. Offer DMA software
or
5. Are invite only

All of these things can help remain UD but won't do the job unless paired with good security/methods & unique code
i completely agree that it isnt a bulletproof solution but i think that it could atleast be a factor in not being detected for a longer period of time. Ricochet has been very slow at detecting cheats. It took them ages to catch a lot of the providers. I just think it could possibly be the future for longer periods of UD. I still use PO regulary just thinking about the future more so.
08/03/2023 10:05 0x41^4#4
dma is only considered safer because cheat providers that offer it have a fraction of customers that internals and externals have.

as zebleer said, eac/be/vg can and do have waves.

if they (dma providers) gained the same customer size as internal and external providers, ricochet would quickly adapt.
08/04/2023 06:10 GrawPoint#5
Quote:
Originally Posted by zebleer View Post
There are several ways to detect DMA. EAC/BE/VG have been able to do it so I am sure eventually Ricochet will be able to as well

There is no bulletproof solution

You can buy a DMA device & all of that if you want but don't expect to be invincible

I am sure that more providers will pop up for COD that

1. Have slots
or
2. Require ID (bad imo, just do #1)
or
3. Are overpriced to limit user base (bad imo, just do #1)
or
4. Offer DMA software
or
5. Are invite only

All of these things can help remain UD but won't do the job unless paired with good security/methods & unique code
Are DMA devices/cheats actually safer compared to internal/externals?

I mean, even if it's harder to detected DMA providers, most of them are public and could be targeted if they manage to attract enough users. For long term, are they worth it?

But you're right, imo too Private/ID, Invite only or Slotted cheats are the best way to keep a cheat UD, provided that the dev's actually know what they're doing to keep it safe of cource.
08/04/2023 06:53 Cytokine#6
Quote:
Originally Posted by GrawPoint View Post
Are DMA devices/cheats actually safer compared to internal/externals?

I mean, even if it's harder to detected DMA providers, most of them are public and could be targeted if they manage to attract enough users. For long term, are they worth it?

But you're right, imo too Private/ID, Invite only or Slotted cheats are the best way to keep a cheat UD, provided that the dev's actually know what they're doing to keep it safe of cource.
As far as i know DMA is really expensive and need a lot of work.
1. Main PC where you will play game
2. Second PC/laptop it doesnt need to be high specs.
3. DMA card with pool or custom firmware which will connect both pc and you have to install firmware according to the game anticheats cause normal stock firmware can get you ban.

All of this cost lot more compare to software cheat. Its definitely overkill for some games but if security is your priority and you want to play tournament hardware cheat is way to go.

DMA card itself will cost 350-500 USD.
08/04/2023 23:02 Robsev#7
Quote:
Originally Posted by zebleer View Post
There are several ways to detect DMA. EAC/BE/VG have been able to do it so I am sure eventually Ricochet will be able to as well

There is no bulletproof solution

You can buy a DMA device & all of that if you want but don't expect to be invincible

I am sure that more providers will pop up for COD that

1. Have slots
or
2. Require ID (bad imo, just do #1)
or
3. Are overpriced to limit user base (bad imo, just do #1)
or
4. Offer DMA software
or
5. Are invite only

All of these things can help remain UD but won't do the job unless paired with good security/methods & unique code
So why not make a dma version of your cheat for some of us that been ur customer for 2+years and atleast give us the option. Shit I will buy the device from you I will be ur first customer
08/05/2023 05:06 GrawPoint#8
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Originally Posted by Robsev View Post
So why not make a dma version of your cheat for some of us that been ur customer for 2+years and atleast give us the option. Shit I will buy the device from you I will be ur first customer
Probably not worth it in the long term, to put such effort for a product that perhaps only 10 people could afford isn't ideal for most dev's, especially for a game like COD. Unless you're willing to pay thousands for it, I don't see it being worth his time.