DMA Status

05/20/2023 03:47 Toxic.dll#1
As I said and warned several times here, DMA are being focused on by Riot
Today there was a DMA detection, so use this topic to report which providers get hit

Confirmed Detections :
  • Lurker DMA
  • Immortal
05/20/2023 17:31 Afplactican#2
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Originally Posted by Toxic.dll View Post
As I said and warned several times here, DMA are being focused on by Riot
Today there was a DMA detection, so use this topic to report which providers get hit

Confirmed Detections :
  • Lurker DMA Board
Well, all good things come and go. DMA was a perfect solution for safe cheating for the past YEARS. But vgk is coming to an point its getting so fucking advanced
05/20/2023 20:54 [Eternality]#3
This topic seems a bit needless bcz wave only applies to Immortal/Lurker firmware. Lurker already got dt before, so nothing new. But im not sure why GamerDoc also shared me and Clutch/Atomic on twitter post. I dont sell firmware and Clutch/Atomic has no val cheese.. Thats weird :rolleyes:

Info: If u are using firmware other than Lurker, u are safe (1909). Doesnt matter what cheat u use. Getting ban with DMA is only about firmware.
05/21/2023 10:58 Relentless#4
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Originally Posted by [Eternality] View Post
This topic seems a bit needless bcz wave only applies to Immortal/Lurker firmware. Lurker already got dt before, so nothing new. But im not sure why GamerDoc also shared me and Clutch/Atomic on twitter post. I dont sell firmware and Clutch/Atomic has no val cheese.. Thats weird :rolleyes:

Info: If u are using firmware other than Lurker, u are safe (1909). Doesnt matter what cheat u use. Getting ban with DMA is only about firmware.
I agree.
There’s no need to hate on dma lol. Even if val keep patching Winvers ppl will work around that, we have already saw examples of it.

Lurker has been dtc before as Eternality stated so it’s not a big deal. Many other dmas are still yet to be dtc. This was a lurker only detection probably
05/22/2023 11:52 Toxic.dll#5
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Originally Posted by [Eternality] View Post
This topic seems a bit needless bcz wave only applies to Immortal/Lurker firmware. Lurker already got dt before, so nothing new. But im not sure why GamerDoc also shared me and Clutch/Atomic on twitter post. I dont sell firmware and Clutch/Atomic has no val cheese.. Thats weird :rolleyes:

Info: If u are using firmware other than Lurker, u are safe (1909). Doesnt matter what cheat u use. Getting ban with DMA is only about firmware.
As Lurker got detect you can also get target, its just question of time at this point, just made this topic because many peoples think DMA its safe like before but its not, they are getting focused by Riot

This make DMA not worth anymore, pay for a board, a firmware, a cheat sub and maybe even other computer to get a cheat with a big delay and that still can make you banned (My Opnion)
05/22/2023 13:51 dwadsa#6
Imagine anyone thinking Lurker was undetected when they flood the whole ACPI_HAL list with invalid devices to crash the iommu function for correctly responding. :facepalm:

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Originally Posted by Toxic.dll View Post
This make DMA not worth anymore, pay for a board, a firmware, a cheat sub and maybe even other computer to get a cheat with a big delay and that still can make you banned (My Opnion)
You're correct for a public setting at least. Private is still free.
05/22/2023 13:58 Toxic.dll#7
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Originally Posted by dwadsa View Post
Imagine anyone thinking Lurker was undetected when they flood the whole ACPI_HAL list with invalid devices to crash the iommu function for correctly responding. :facepalm:



You're correct for a public setting at least. Private is still free.
Yea ik but most of people still buying public DMA, now Public DMA are like Public Memory
05/22/2023 20:22 bkk1ng#8
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Originally Posted by Toxic.dll View Post
Yea ik but most of people still buying public DMA, now Public DMA are like Public Memory
what dma would you buy?
05/22/2023 21:23 Toxic.dll#9
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Originally Posted by bkk1ng View Post
what dma would you buy?
None
05/23/2023 00:38 lucash13#10
DMA is definitely getting targeted, that’s not a secret. GDoc has been airing the “rumor” of a DMA detection for weeks and it turned out to be some bans and a block.

1. Not everyone using the firmware was banned/blocked.

2. Clutch and Terminator are still doing just fine on 1909, and until they fix 1909 there’s no need to stress about IOMMU bypassing.

3. Saying DMA is bad in general is just wrong. It’s expensive, sure. Long term solution for multiple games? Still a great choice, and way better than software in some ways.

4. DMA being targeted suddenly also means devs will put more work into making it better, so writing it off already after just some Lurker bans seems exaggerated.


I would still recommend DMA to anyone who’s interested in using across multiple games. COD, OW, Fortnite, CSGO, Apex, EFT, R6 etc. Loads of games DMA is great for, while offering cheap subs, although a high cost at first.
05/23/2023 03:35 Toxic.dll#11
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Originally Posted by lucash13 View Post
DMA is definitely getting targeted, that’s not a secret. GDoc has been airing the “rumor” of a DMA detection for weeks and it turned out to be some bans and a block.

1. Not everyone using the firmware was banned/blocked.

2. Clutch and Terminator are still doing just fine on 1909, and until they fix 1909 there’s no need to stress about IOMMU bypassing.

3. Saying DMA is bad in general is just wrong. It’s expensive, sure. Long term solution for multiple games? Still a great choice, and way better than software in some ways.

4. DMA being targeted suddenly also means devs will put more work into making it better, so writing it off already after just some Lurker bans seems exaggerated.


I would still recommend DMA to anyone who’s interested in using across multiple games. COD, OW, Fortnite, CSGO, Apex, EFT, R6 etc. Loads of games DMA is great for, while offering cheap subs, although a high cost at first.
My option i was just reporting the bans, and i still dont think worth the investment for peoples who are looking to use on Valorant Only at this moment
05/23/2023 08:20 thispapisito69#12
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Originally Posted by Toxic.dll View Post
My option i was just reporting the bans, and i still dont think worth the investment for peoples who are looking to use on Valorant Only at this moment
-Hard as fuck to setup
-Really expensive
-The fact that it will probably be patched permanently and there will be no workaround
-If they get a workaround prices of DMA cheats will go to the moon
-2nd PC
-It will just turn to a pricey paperweight after it's patched
-Delay and really bad quality aimbot

It doesn't seems so worth for me unless you're playing a ton of games where the DMA is useful other than Valorant, but most of the people in this specific section is here for Val
05/23/2023 14:26 Toxic.dll#13
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Originally Posted by thispapisito69 View Post
-Hard as fuck to setup
-Really expensive
-The fact that it will probably be patched permanently and there will be no workaround
-If they get a workaround prices of DMA cheats will go to the moon
-2nd PC
-It will just turn to a pricey paperweight after it's patched
-Delay and really bad quality aimbot

It doesn't seems so worth for me unless you're playing a ton of games where the DMA is useful other than Valorant, but most of the people in this specific section is here for Val
Exact what i trought
05/23/2023 16:18 Afplactican#14
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Originally Posted by thispapisito69 View Post
-Hard as fuck to setup
-Really expensive
-The fact that it will probably be patched permanently and there will be no workaround
-If they get a workaround prices of DMA cheats will go to the moon
-2nd PC
-It will just turn to a pricey paperweight after it's patched
-Delay and really bad quality aimbot

It doesn't seems so worth for me unless you're playing a ton of games where the DMA is useful other than Valorant, but most of the people in this specific section is here for Val
People better look into color/pixel bots these days.
05/24/2023 00:00 TheQuickBrwnFox#15
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Originally Posted by thispapisito69 View Post
-Hard as fuck to setup
-Really expensive
-The fact that it will probably be patched permanently and there will be no workaround
-If they get a workaround prices of DMA cheats will go to the moon
-2nd PC
-It will just turn to a pricey paperweight after it's patched
-Delay and really bad quality aimbot

It doesn't seems so worth for me unless you're playing a ton of games where the DMA is useful other than Valorant, but most of the people in this specific section is here for Val
- It’s almost plug and play. Download Msoft redists, auto mmap and plug in a pci device.
- That’s not really a fact. You can’t “ban DMA”, blocked is more accurate but that’s only with public firmware and providers. Even when it’s blocked, your HWIDs and account are still safe.
- Workaround for what? Valorant? Get better firmware bro literally Gdocs own words.
- This is true. Eventually most things get patched. Not really in the foreseeable future though. Most of your points are ignorant or uninformed. Or you’re young.

You can get a card for $200 on eBay. DMA cheat providers know they don’t have to use price as a security barrier so it’s always cheaper than software cheats. If you bought any lifetime DMA cheat within the past year, you’re the real winner because you probably never had to pay for a cheat for that game ever again. I look at how much others spend these days and it’s almost sad. Go touch grass or boobs and save your hard-earned money.

This topic is overrated. It probably only comes up is because of people who use DMA vs people who don’t(ie.Toxic). And we’re literally only talking about one-game and applying it to DMA in general. Vanguard does things that other anti-cheats and other publishers would probably never get on board with for many reasons. So don’t expect that in any current FPS title other than Val. DMA will eventually sunset but probably after Valorant is dead/dying. Nobody knows for sure and there’s so much misinformation in this thread that it’s pretty clear not many of you know how it works.