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Originally Posted by Torpedu
100% detected 1 day after pushing out , lol.
"*UPDATE*
We have a few customers from ********* already", which havent had any bans while your entire membershit got booted in 1 day :D.
Sorry, but you should state on your page you are detected and this bot already has a horrible history of big bans (see old threads on o.wnd), while the devs you compare to, are clean right now.
Careful guys, at the moment ban guarantee.
Also be extra careful, talking about Warden bypass and then stating "nobody really knows what / how warden works and what he bans and what he checks but a hint, dont bot 24/7".
Missing legitimatacy here a lot!
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Lol, every bot gets detected eventually. Ban waves happen. If anyone is concerned about getting banned, then they shouldn't be botting to begin with.
Jiguan is detected, baoli is not. But baoli had a big banwave like the current one not long ago either. Let's not forget that maphacks also got detected a few days ago.
You say I'm missing legitimacy? Because I didn't explain how the bypass works and what warden is looking for? Does every reseller explain how their bypass works? No.
But listen, if you really want to learn about bypass and anti cheat, I have no problem doing a short eli5 explanation to you. Just chill out and cut back on the salt.
Since you were so kind to bump my thread, I will educate you.
For one, lets talk about anti-cheats (warden, punkbuster, battleeye etc). An anticheats primary job is to say "(eli5)is he running abc.exe? and is it changed in anyway" if all clears, the game will launch with out issues. Besides that, it also detects by-pass methods. A lot of cheats hides itself into other applications (i.e microsoft paint, discord, shadowplay and the list goes on). 99% of bans are due to bypass being detected.
How does warden's anticheat work? I've never taken Warden apart to read the code. And not like it matters anyways because everytime they update warden, it is re written to search for something else. What I can say is that Warden, like any other anti-cheat, has been dissected and developers know what its looking for when they need to code a bypass. But you know those tiny updates we get once in a while? That could be new detection vectors Warden is recoded to search for. Game devs will wait for days, weeks, months or new ladder before executing a ban to everyone thats been flagged. Back on topic - Warden, like many anti-cheat's sole purpose is to detect the "by-pass" and read memory to compare. That's why a lot of cheats have moved to kernel level which make it slightly more difficult to detect.
When you are botting, you are not only by-passing Warden, you are also writing and reading memory that a normal client wouldn't do. Warden would need to specifically write code to detect things such as 'if character is teleporting, does_character_stop = engaged?" - again this is only an example. Running said checks hurts the performance of the game. Imagine that simple line of code of just checking for teleport, ran 10000 times in 1 game. And then you add more lines of code to check for other factors. Its unlikely big anti cheats will ever use that method for detection due to it bogging down their game. Bypasses and anti cheats are a cat and mouse game. It's rarely ever the cheat that is detected, but rather the injection method and bypass.
So to sum it up, no, I don't personally know what warden is looking for. So I guess that makes me illegitimate.