[Question/Discuss] Why is there no C++ Sources?

03/28/2010 06:10 ~*|Limbo|*~#1
Why is there no C++ sources? I see every last source on here is C# with a few different ways of doing it - Ini-Based, Flatfile and MySQL but no C++ ?

I'm currently in the process of learning C++ and would like some help from another source, is there one I haven't seen? I would love to get one and study it, learn from it (Kinda like Hybrids bugless C# source but C++).

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03/28/2010 06:11 ~Falcon#2
It's basically because, the very first development of a conquer server was in C# (UCCO).
Which was then continued by the CoEmu project as an open-source development, again in C#.

Since then it's been the only language source files have been made available in.
If UCCO was originally C++, things would probably have been different.

But no, there's no publicly available C++ source as I know of.
03/28/2010 06:23 PeTe Ninja#3
Though there are no public C++ sources there are a few out there.. umm if im not mistake

ImmuneOne
InflamedCod
Korvacs possibly... those people might have one...

and a few other have Java
03/28/2010 06:26 © Haydz#4
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Originally Posted by PeTe Ninja View Post
Though there are no public C++ sources there are a few out there.. umm if im not mistake

ImmuneOne
InflamedCod
Korvacs possibly... those people might have one...

and a few other have Java
Korvacs doesn't do c++ f.y.i.

I can't comment on the other two, as I honestly don't know, but you can add:
  • myself
  • saint
  • hybrid
  • zero (bone-you)

to that list.
03/28/2010 06:31 ~*|Limbo|*~#5
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Originally Posted by PeTe Ninja View Post
Though there are no public C++ sources there are a few out there.. umm if im not mistake

ImmuneOne
InflamedCod
Korvacs possibly... those people might have one...

and a few other have Java
Isn't InflamedCod working on Hybrids C# right now? I believe he's got to patch 5159?

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Originally Posted by © Haydz View Post
Korvacs doesn't do c++ f.y.i.

I can't comment on the other two, as I honestly don't know, but you can add:
  • myself
  • saint
  • hybrid
  • zero (bone-you)

to that list.
Well right now i'm looking for a base source to start from, learning from scratch like hybrids basic bugless C# but in C++ would be great. I'm msning saint and hopefully getting him to lend a hand when he's back, if he does have a C++ source I hope I can convince him to let me learn from it he's very protective of his sources as are most people (For obvious reasons)
03/28/2010 06:34 © Haydz#6
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Originally Posted by ~*|Limbo|*~ View Post
Well right now i'm looking for a base source to start from, learning from scratch like hybrids basic bugless C# but in C++ would be great. I'm msning saint and hopefully getting him to lend a hand when he's back, if he does have a C++ source I hope I can convince him to let me learn from it he's very protective of his sources as are most people (For obvious reasons)
Myself and Saint worked on one together about a year back, when I was a complete noob with c++ (heh, I still am).

But he's gotten a new PC/Laptop since and told me he deleted it all when he formatted, says he's done with conquer so I wouldn't expect him to have any backup's either.
03/28/2010 06:37 ~*|Limbo|*~#7
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Myself and Saint worked on one together about a year back, when I was a complete noob with c++ (heh, I still am).

But he's gotten a new PC/Laptop since and told me he deleted it all when he formatted, says he's done with conquer so I wouldn't expect him to have any backup's either.
Well he was on ACO earlier - He had fun abusing a spell :] I did too xD But dang, don't you still have a copy of the source? :/ Or anyone?
03/28/2010 11:16 ImmuneOne#8
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Originally Posted by © Haydz View Post
Myself and Saint worked on one together about a year back, when I was a complete noob with c++ (heh, I still am).

But he's gotten a new PC/Laptop since and told me he deleted it all when he formatted, says he's done with conquer so I wouldn't expect him to have any backup's either.
Managed/Unmanaged struct?

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Well he was on ACO earlier - He had fun abusing a spell :] I did too xD But dang, don't you still have a copy of the source? :/ Or anyone?
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03/28/2010 14:08 Nullable#9
I have 2, one abandoned, other one is a plain conversion of the C# version that Immune and I worked on. Expect a release someday but i can't specify a date(Database system uses custom query server so i'll rewrite it using another system for others).
03/28/2010 14:56 ~*|Limbo|*~#10
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I've seen how well Hybrids C# bugless source has helped people learn C# which is why I want a C++ source to work with to learn the structure and code things 1 at a time while learning.

I'll be using tutorials to learn C++ too btw, I have several coding tutorials to read and learn from.

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I have 2, one abandoned, other one is a plain conversion of the C# version that Immune and I worked on. Expect a release someday but i can't specify a date(Database system uses custom query server so i'll rewrite it using another system for others).
Sounds good :) A plain version would be perfect, I have a C++ source now, spoke to some friends and got one, going to start learning C++ and eventually code my own base source in C++. Thanks guys :)
03/28/2010 15:49 ImFlamedCOD#11
I started a base, got it going up slowly never got to far with it , was at basic logging in and that was that for all I did for the time. Unknownoone would be another one who could do it in C++ btw. I learned from antiRTFM on youtube and other sources. Good luck luck. I myself work with c# the only reason I did not port over to C++ is because i wanted to finish the source i started. C++ is just like c# and visual basic. Just takes time to learn it once you get the hang of it all its like a cake walk from there.
03/28/2010 18:03 ~*|Limbo|*~#12
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I started a base, got it going up slowly never got to far with it , was at basic logging in and that was that for all I did for the time. Unknownoone would be another one who could do it in C++ btw. I learned from antiRTFM on youtube and other sources. Good luck luck. I myself work with c# the only reason I did not port over to C++ is because i wanted to finish the source i started. C++ is just like c# and visual basic. Just takes time to learn it once you get the hang of it all its like a cake walk from there.
antiRTFM? Whats that... Never heard of it :o

And thanks for the info.
03/28/2010 18:23 xScott#13
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Originally Posted by ~*|Limbo|*~ View Post
antiRTFM? Whats that... Never heard of it :o

And thanks for the info.
antiRTFM is a person that does Youtube tutorials on cpp, he realy goes into detail

not sure if im aloud to link but:
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03/28/2010 20:16 ChingChong23#14
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I started a base, got it going up slowly never got to far with it , was at basic logging in and that was that for all I did for the time. Unknownoone would be another one who could do it in C++ btw. I learned from antiRTFM on youtube and other sources. Good luck luck. I myself work with c# the only reason I did not port over to C++ is because i wanted to finish the source i started. C++ is just like c# and visual basic. Just takes time to learn it once you get the hang of it all its like a cake walk from there.
ugh no, ill take a wild guess and say your talking about libraries, therefore talking about C++ .Net, even then i don't see how you can compare C++ to vb.

It seems theres no C++ servers because the C# route is easier for a lot more programmers. the question is, why is there only C# servers? (and a couple of java) wheres the C, delphi, python, perl, ruby or even VB?
03/28/2010 20:52 Trigorio#15
@Limbo I don't think you should study someone elses source to learn how to program in that language. When you say you have seen so many people learn C# from Hybrids, did they really learn much? I bet they would learn 5x times faster if they acctually took a C# e-book/book or followed a tutorial on the internet. I know that I myself have learnt alot of C# from [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...], msdn and google in general.

You aren't going to fully understand the code and what lays behind it by "studdying" someone elses code. This is a lazy persons way of thinking. Go borrow a C++ book from a library, or buy one, or just use internet tutorials. Start with the basics, get to know the language. You will learn alot faster by doing that and also you will build your own code from scratch instead of using 90% of someone elses work..

I can't understand how people use the base code of someone elses work and then says they created it itself? I am not pointing this at you, just in general what is happening around us.


Edit: Hey limbo are you david from Pyramid?