[Let's talk] 4Story New Class

03/16/2021 05:16 NavigatorCreed#1
Hello there :)

I have a simple question to you all what class would you like to add to the game.
I know 4Story doesn't need a new class for a few reasons but as I said let's talk and find out what is your opinion :)

Before we start I don't want hear here about any 4Story Server or stupid comments which server is better.

Thanks! :handsdown:
03/16/2021 15:45 juliendu38#2
for me, this is a Good-Bad Idea,

BUT, one time i have thinking of reworking all the class with sub-class.

how can i be understand...

take the warrior class, in lot of other games you have a attack class like berzerker and a guardian class, but on 4Story the warrior can do the 2 things.

one time i have plan to made something like this for all class.

but two sub-class on one class, like wizard (this is an exemple) a fire mode that made lot of damage but cast and speed is more long, with more range and a freeze mode, with more defense, down damage, range more shorter, speed fast etc... after you can specify if the sub-class will be more good on mono-targetting or multi

but for this, lot of work to balance, reworking all the skills, and the peoples don't like to change of gameplay certainly.

but for me it can be interesting to thinking, and try, the battle will be thinking with more strategy and adaptibility.
03/16/2021 17:26 NavigatorCreed#3
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Originally Posted by juliendu38 View Post
for me, this is a Good-Bad Idea,

BUT, one time i have thinking of reworking all the class with sub-class.

how can i be understand...

take the warrior class, in lot of other games you have a attack class like berzerker and a guardian class, but on 4Story the warrior can do the 2 things.

one time i have plan to made something like this for all class.

but two sub-class on one class, like wizard (this is an exemple) a fire mode that made lot of damage but cast and speed is more long, with more range and a freeze mode, with more defense, down damage, range more shorter, speed fast etc... after you can specify if the sub-class will be more good on mono-targetting or multi

but for this, lot of work to balance, reworking all the skills, and the peoples don't like to change of gameplay certainly.

but for me it can be interesting to thinking, and try, the battle will be thinking with more strategy and adaptibility.
WoW like spec right?
It's a very interesting idea tbh :)
03/16/2021 18:21 juliendu38#4
yep, it can be good to try experiencing something like this ;) after i don't say it will be the "best updates ever", that depend of how your players is open to new gameplay, how it balance etc... but if a server do it, i will try because it change lot of things and i really want to be surprised x')
03/16/2021 19:11 Exakan#5
A new class, a nightmare for all matchmaking designers in this game xD

Well, I'm a big fan of deceptive maneuvers. A class that can trick its opponent like archers soul shadow + short multiple telejumps etc. would be nice:p
03/17/2021 03:31 zF4me#6
As i startet to play 4story (2010) i loved the priest cause he could transfer hisself into a crow and his enemys into a squirrel.
Whats about a class which is working with transformation?
A class which can transform hisself into differnt shapes.
Or creating a much better version of summoner, where monsters are usefull to kill and use them as ally.
03/17/2021 10:39 NavigatorCreed#7
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Originally Posted by zF4me View Post
As i startet to play 4story (2010) i loved the priest cause he could transfer hisself into a crow and his enemys into a squirrel.
Whats about a class which is working with transformation?
A class which can transform hisself into differnt shapes.
Or creating a much better version of summoner, where monsters are usefull to kill and use them as ally.
Tbh. Some kind of druid would be great too if we're talking about transformations and so on.
My first Idea Was to create Paladin with physical Attacks like warriors but i have replaced strenght with Int to make this some Kind of Magic Meele attack and it's like a Regular close range Attack but it using Magic damage instead of Physical.
Im testing a lot of Things right now to make fully working New 4story Class but I need ideas to make it working and thats why i'v created this topic for :)
If you want to try for your own don't be affraid to ask :)
03/17/2021 18:08 kozdam4s#8
All existing servers do not have character balance completed and you want a new one: D

- lock ABB completely first (manual and macro)
- make something more difficult, currently 1 stun = death

Then make a new character.
03/17/2021 19:46 Exakan#9
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Originally Posted by kozdam4s View Post
All existing servers do not have character balance completed and you want a new one: D
Hä? 4Story has no intended 1v1 balance, its all about counterplay, thats why this game is so special :P
It would be interesting to see how a new class would extend this counterplay.
Example a new class with "eye", it would make a lot different for nw+war.

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- lock ABB completely first (manual and macro)
Thats another reason why this game's PvP is so unique - its dynamic and fast. Removing "ABB" would kill it, like on offi with the 1s timer between skills. The only important thing would be how to limit it. A too hard ABB like in old times and it shots all skills in 1s, too slow and it will be like evo or war on old patches = slow, useless = unpopular

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- make something more difficult, currently 1 stun = death
Depends on the server and class tho. Classes like Nw who have to kill their target quickly need that one-stun-mechanic, because mage+priest+archer deal the same damage on longe range/larger PvP. If you create a close range class, faster killing, mobility or toughness (not both together!) and good stuns are needed, while long-range classes need less stuns (mage has 2 good ones, but "only" two). A good example of a balance is evocator. Hes on all ranges, but overall damage is between a nw+war and mage+archer.
03/17/2021 20:28 FlightxD#10
I would like to see a hunter from WoW in 4Story. Basically a archer with stronger spells, bigger CD's and utility - backwards teleport (like mage's blink), AoE that slows, etc.
03/17/2021 20:40 Exakan#11
Btw guys if you want to play a new class, play archer with his close-range tree.
Actually he has many close-range combos and a weapon breaker that arent even bad :P
03/17/2021 22:35 FlightxD#12
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Originally Posted by Exakan View Post
Btw guys if you want to play a new class, play archer with his close-range tree.
Actually he has many close-range combos and a weapon breaker that arent even bad :P
the biggest troll idea ever :pimp:
03/18/2021 09:59 pozvankovy40#13
Monk with unarmed combat / class that would actually use a bow (such an useless type of weapon until now) :D