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Originally Posted by madmerlin3009
Oh btw I know nothing about networking or 9d.It was all done for me.It had to be said . I was sick and tired of people saying i knew nothing.
How wrong can people be. I am willing to share alot of information for people who wish to open their own servers. In fact i will share the files i have. I will show later, i have full working version of terrain generator.It was failing because of base paths of,objects,models,textures,npcs,quest structures,base textures on new projects, were not positioned in the correct path structures.
lets let this word war end here now. I am here to help people as well. I am willing to send certain data to people to set up their own server versions.
I admit i made alot of mistakes on private servers, i am sorry. But I have to say, take a seat and admit, my good nature was also taken advantage of. I bet not many will admit that publically, they took advantage of kindness.That was my weakness.
Make your own mind up. Use something you wish to stay with and not manipulate others for your own benefit, then go back on your original intentions.
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I really, really enjoy the stuff I've just read!
Just being 100% serious. What if we actually do something good for the community and drop all of our knowledge in one place, no strings attached? No hidden source codes, files, tools, etc.
I'm getting tired of it. I'm glad Martin mentioned the terrain generation. That's one of the biggest features we've all missed so far.
We have 3 biggest parties developing the new versions of their servers. 9DS, Eclipse, and Bogdy (with me as situational support). Don't forget that Sheik appeared lately and we've got a lot of people that create the local servers for themselves or their friends. Can't even count the people PMed me last month. And there is zan/zeroBlood with his 9DClassic. I'm not considering him as a "big party", yet it may change in the future.
I, personally, don't mind jolly cooperation. Even though we had a past, each of us got a bunch of experience. Though, I'm sure I'll see the stuff like "oh you know shit, asshole, just leave this community at once", like some retard just mentioned few hours ago.
We're almost 10 years here, with the same people, same devs, almost all the time. Saweet did a lot, and even if people won't like it, people like MrOfficer (mrkenneth), Tengerecki or Zozo have pushed it, as well, though in a workaround way. There was Play9D, Emperor of Dragons, all iterations of Martin servers, 9DPK/9DS, PA/Zeron. We've come a long way.
I'm working for nobody at this point. I've got a bunch of offers already to join different teams with different approaches. That's bullshit.
Just my
opinion on this matter:
- Nobody cares about CS-capped server - 9DClassic is an example. While the beginning was great (especially PvP-wise), it's already 3rd week of the server, and half of the community has reached the cap.
- We shouldn't copy RedFox, as well. There ARE a bunch of nice ideas that I'd gladly take for the new servers (Illusive Branches and graded KL relics 1~10).
- The server HAS to have any protection. It's way too easy to hack any of the existing servers. I've come with a bunch of counters to prevent it, one way or another.
Potentially issues:
- Money. Yeah, that's true. I'm talking about cash now. Everyone does. While I don't agree with Martin's "ethics", I think we still can find a common ground. Especially when I mean the "server and domain cost"-money issues, instead of sharing the profit.
- Trust. Do I have to say anything? Transparency is a thing. OPER_TOOL logs should be public, every giveaway should be public. Anything that's not breaking a GDPR law, should be allowed for people to be seen.
I'm sure most people hold a grudge against each other. But if we want to provide anything new, it's the best moment and place to start. Let bygones be bygones. We all now know who can do his job, who is a real "college boi", who is trying, and who is only pretending. I'm truly glad that Martin started to look at the things we've spent our free days some time ago.
Inb4 someone will say "it's all because of the tools", "you want to manipulate each other". Nah, and either Bogdy, Arceus or even Martin can say - if I really wanted to get something, I'd do it myself (like PoC of the X3D editor few weeks ago, even though I know nothing about graphics). I just want to mention it's the best moment to join forces. While all of us want to do something 9D-related.
Hate war starts in 3... 2... 1... Enjoy.