Tips on How to avoid/try not being scammed

08/13/2015 03:56 LOLskinseller#1
Hi Guys,
I heard from a lot of my friends and customers that scamming is now happening every 5 out of 10 trade which is really alarming.

I thought will let you guys know how and when you can spot and try and avoid them. If I miss out something here, Just update it in or let me know and I can update it.

* Do not talk over Skype with anyone, Whatever the reason is. There is no reason which the seller/buyer wouldn't want to talk here on Epvp. "Epvp only considers comms here on their website no other"
* VERY VERY IMPORTANT - If the seller or buyer is new or with less TBM's, Please go ahead with a trusted middleman. That 5-10euros of the middleman fee's can save you much more in-fact it becomes easy and traceable.
* Before you talk or even a thread is posted, Verify the seller. Check their feedback are from genuine buyers or sellers. PM the previous buyers/sellers via elitepvp message system so you at least get a vague idea who you might be dealing with.

* Always 0 or less than 5TBM's are not scammers because there might be some genuine people there as well who are wanting to trade or start of new.
* Be vary of a very lucrative offer, More for less always is not good.
* Even for the boosts etc, There are a lot of people who use scripts etc so do not get your account boosted unless you are duo'quing because atleast you will log into your own account rather then someone else logging in and using scripts which eventually gets banned.
* Do not worry about receiving a -ve from someone here who has scammed you, You can always explain that why do you have negative and you can raise your concern with epvp as well, Admins are really helpful when you need them but only if you follow the terms and conditions.
* When you buy an account, Make sure you use your own credit card to purchase RP on the account, Reason is simple. If the seller wanting to recover it - You can claim your money back from your bank plus you can get the account banned which is very easy and is taken by RIOT very seriously and high priority. This ofc is involved once you get the delivery of the account for which you can see my previous point on using mm. ARTICLE : [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]
* Use screen recording software to keep a detailed recording of the chat + discussion going on with the user. Always ask the seller to do video chat, Take a screenshot so atleast you have their face and then you can let social media to do the rest. (Please be vary - Do not post these unless you have 100% proof including video recordings etc where in you have got scammed.
* Ask for sellers/buyers facebook account, Verify the account is genuine (its easy again with common sense)
* DO NOT SEND MONEY AS FRIENDS AND FAMILY ON PAYPAL, Pay the extra fees to the seller but always mark it as purchase/goods


Some concerning dialogues/things said by the scammers (There are heaps but just as an example).
* I previously got scammed using a MM
* MM was a scammer and I do not trust anyone
* I quit the game and busy with my life and want to sell it (This is what the reason is for a lot of them however being a gamer and player they have not traded here on EPVP is something not digestible) There might be some exceptions though lol....
* I need urgent money to pay my bills which are outstanding, Guys come on. Common sense here please....

I am sorry if this is not the right place to post this, But thought lets make epvp a safe and happy trading place. Cheers


This may sound harsh but being honest I would like to tell this, The scammers I believe have very bad upbringing and do not have any values for life/karma. I am glad that my upbringing is not like this low life scammers/noobs so that I would wish/want/think of scamming someone.
08/13/2015 04:34 rubenicas#2
Covers most of the part, great post
08/13/2015 04:34 haloboy8856#3
Sure coulda used this yesterday haha, I didnt even get the guys epvp name he just directly messaged me on skype
08/13/2015 05:00 LOLskinseller#4
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Originally Posted by haloboy8856 View Post
Sure coulda used this yesterday haha, I didnt even get the guys epvp name he just directly messaged me on skype

My personal suggestion is to never add someone on any messaging apps/software if you do not know them.

Always ask for the reference, Infact if they tell you they are from EPVP etc, Ask them to PM you here or message/reply on the thread with your name/request so you can check it for yourself. :), Hope this helps
08/13/2015 05:05 hmaaar#5
thx this is helpfull.
08/13/2015 05:11 pinimbi#6
I once almost got scammed by a Very very very trusted MM here on epvp. So you should be very aware of that too.
08/13/2015 05:15 LOLskinseller#7
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Originally Posted by pinimbi View Post
I once almost got scammed by a Very very very trusted MM here on epvp. So you should be very aware of that too.

Hi Pinimbi, Thanks for sharing this, Sorry to hear however I would pity that trusted MM who did that to you. Maybe his upbringing was so terrible that he did this with someone Else's hard earned money. Probably he might have got molested in his younger days.

:)
08/14/2015 00:02 Scaramus#8
1 day I got scammed from a guy +150 that said he didnt want to trade cause I would rate him bad... 10€ psc to shit and couldnt do anything xD poor of me.
08/14/2015 00:05 ~iTzzMe~#9
Stick this please!! :)
08/14/2015 00:18 LOLskinseller#10
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Originally Posted by Scaramus View Post
1 day I got scammed from a guy +150 that said he didnt want to trade cause I would rate him bad... 10€ psc to shit and couldnt do anything xD poor of me.

Sorry to hear that however if you would have had done video chat + taken a screenshot of him :) you could have posted it here or some where :D...Anyways, Lesson can always be learnt in easy & hard way. Just think that he was abused/molested when he was young and you gave that 10euro as charity for him.
08/14/2015 00:23 Shareni#11
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* Do not talk over Skype with anyone, Whatever the reason is. There is no reason which the seller/buyer wouldn't want to talk here on Epvp. "Epvp only considers comms here on their website no other"
This is interesting. What would you suggest for me then, coz i get 30-40 inquiries per day?

And thats not 30-40 single questions, thats 30-40 chats which can go for a long time.

It's bad advice. People should use skype for communication, and trade itself and transfer of traded goods can be done via PM or TBM. But it's nonsense to communicate via PMs only. I would have to send hundreds PMs per day only to answer questions.

Most important thing of all, only trade with trusted people who are in business for long period of time.

And when it comes to the accounts, keep in mind, that no matter what info you get, original owner can always recover account. Even if its "unverified", since i saw people are selling those as 100% "safe".
08/14/2015 00:29 LOLskinseller#12
Mate, This post I have typed with a lot of efforts so please respect that.

Other thing, If you want to communicate with Skype then you can do video chat so you have the screenshot or picture with whom you are trading with. Stop pointing out negatives in the post mate :), I am just trying to help keep EPVP safe :D

You can use whatever chat you want, But always consider being safe with your hard earned money/account/ whatever.

Hope you do not take this in a negative way & sorry if I have been a bit harsh... Cheers
08/14/2015 00:36 StonerCuzHeLoveDope#13
Stick this please!!
08/15/2015 23:49 LOLskinseller#14
Guys, let's make epvp a safe place :). Thanks
08/16/2015 21:34 Nectix#15
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