Jessie's Random Patch 13 Rant

I would totally just stop hacking if they stopped doing what they JUST did AGAIN with patch 13. :facepalm:

What did they do exactly?
Did they fix the completely screwed Mind shock? No.
Did they even attempt to fix the dropping connections in game? No.
Did they take a few minutes to look at the fail Cam glitch plaguing chaser? Of course not.

What did they actually do? They made another attempt to put more money in their pockets by throwing in MORE AP/Premium items, and made them selves a new error to boot. Unfortunately S4 is becoming plagued by what happens to most MMO's. Greed. They don't bother to fix whats currently wrong with the game, no, they are only looking for ways to make more money off of the AP monsters that roam through out S4. I know that this does go along with the greed thing, but what they really should look at is the possible AP buyers out there, who are currently normal players like you or me. People who come into a game filled with errors, glitched weapons, and a shop that only caters to those with weak willed parents or spoiled kids, aren't likely to stick around.

Patch 12 was no better when they instituted the "limited items" and told us all to say good bye to perms. Even after the huge outcry of the S4 community protesting this, they didn't even address this issue with the latest patch. This was one of the biggest problems people had with the last patch, second only to the Mind shock becoming the most hated weapon in the game, and they didn't bother to do anything with either issue.

Now a lot of the AP kiddies out there might not have much of a problem with the newest patch... but the fact is, is that only about 30-40% of the S4 community are AP users. Which leaves the majority of the S4 community unsatisfied with the latest patch. Now I don't have a problem with AP users, its pretty common to have a cash shop, or some sort of premium area for any online game. However the game shouldn't only cater to them. S4 is becoming a very one sided affair. In the last few patches what has happened? We got a new game mode, and a few new weps? and what did we lose? Pen rates took a nose dive, we are no longer able to keep the items we worked so hard to buy permanently, and we all now have to fear some noob with a Mind shock behind every corner that will put you in the ground after 2 hits. And even after the huge display of outrage from the players, they haven't even touched on any of these issues except the occasional "We are working on it" with the mind shock, and no comment at all with our failng PEN rate. Hopefully, Patch 14 won't be as much of a disappointment.

yes I know is all about the money. I totally agree with you patch 13 = Huge Fail.

Btw for S4 trainer makers if i were you don't bother on making trainers since they said there were going to be a lot of updates so all pointers go to !@#$ and if you want to make them please do xD thnx.
well damage hack is good but why -9999 3? well i know that you ppl sell the good trainers so idc thanks everyone for your hard work. BYE

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-still trying to figure out if fall is supposed to be fail or if its just bad English...-

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Originally Posted by guykild15 yes I know is all about the money. I totally agree with you patch 13 = Huge Fail. Btw for S4 trainer makers if i were you don't bother on making trainers since they said there were going to be a lot of updates so all pointers go to !@#$ and if you want to make them please do xD thnx. well damage hack is good but why -9999 3? well i know that you ppl sell the good trainers so idc thanks everyone for your hard work. BYE

The reason a limit was put into place was to help get rid of all the nib hackers who would run around and kill everyone with one hit and ruin the game. From now on as far as I know there will be speed and Damage restrictions to get rid of them.

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Originally Posted by Lalala~~~ [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] -still trying to figure out if fall is supposed to be fail or if its just bad English...-

and it's doesn't say "Fall" It says "Fail" the . on the 'i' is just really heavy, you can see it if you look close xD.

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Originally Posted by JessieXIII I would totally just stop hacking if they stopped doing what they JUST did AGAIN with patch 13. :facepalm: What did they do exactly? Did they fix the completely screwed Mind shock? No. Did they even attempt to fix the dropping connections in game? No. Did they take a few minutes to look at the fail Cam glitch plaguing chaser? Of course not. What did they actually do? They made another attempt to put more money in their pockets by throwing in MORE AP/Premium items, and made them selves a new error to boot. Unfortunately S4 is becoming plagued by what happens to most MMO's. Greed. They don't bother to fix whats currently wrong with the game, no, they are only looking for ways to make more money off of the AP monsters that roam through out S4. I know that this does go along with the greed thing, but what they really should look at is the possible AP buyers out there, who are currently normal players like you or me. People who come into a game filled with errors, glitched weapons, and a shop that only caters to those with weak willed parents or spoiled kids, aren't likely to stick around. Patch 12 was no better when they instituted the "limited items" and told us all to say good bye to perms. Even after the huge outcry of the S4 community protesting this, they didn't even address this issue with the latest patch. This was one of the biggest problems people had with the last patch, second only to the Mind shock becoming the most hated weapon in the game, and they didn't bother to do anything with either issue. Now a lot of the AP kiddies out there might not have much of a problem with the newest patch... but the fact is, is that only about 30-40% of the S4 community are AP users. Which leaves the majority of the S4 community unsatisfied with the latest patch. Now I don't have a problem with AP users, its pretty common to have a cash shop, or some sort of premium area for any online game. However the game shouldn't only cater to them. S4 is becoming a very one sided affair. In the last few patches what has happened? We got a new game mode, and a few new weps? and what did we lose? Pen rates took a nose dive, we are no longer able to keep the items we worked so hard to buy permanently, and we all now have to fear some noob with a Mind shock behind every corner that will put you in the ground after 2 hits. And even after the huge display of outrage from the players, they haven't even touched on any of these issues except the occasional "We are working on it" with the mind shock, and no comment at all with our failng PEN rate. Hopefully, Patch 14 won't be as much of a disappointment. Patch 13 [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

[ ] You know that Pentavision make the patches.
[ ] You know that Alaplaya has no influence on the content of the patch
[ ] You know that some Bugs are harder to find than others
[ ] You have experiences in programming huge projects
[x] You are a crybaby
[x] You are a flamer
[x] Your post fails so hard as you do

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Originally Posted by grmlkuchen [ ] You know that Pentavision make the patches. [ ] You know that Alaplaya has no influence on the content of the patch [ ] You know that some Bugs are harder to find than others [ ] You have experiences in programming huge projects [x] You are a crybaby [x] You are a flamer [x] Your post fails so hard as you do

Clearly you don't play s4. The burst gauss and the burst handgun [anyone who's played long enough remembers these utter failures], along with their own personal fail-netcode are all alaplaya's own. They can't even jack their code from Pentavision properly really. Maybe Jessie is a little bit frank sometimes but there's complete truth in it. Moreover, if you want a relative comparison, try Valve, who's games are updated almost weekly and they only cost around 20-40 bucks [that's 10-20k ap, what people spend in a few weeks on s4, that could buy you a game that lasts as long as you want like TF2]

I'd have to disagree though Jessie, patch 13 belongs in the EPIC FAIL section of that meter, considering on the day it came out there was MASSIVE lag. Just to list a few things that ALAPLAYA and not Pentavision [because krS4 never had half these problems] has fuked up hard and not fixed :

Gauss creates lag - currently, even though burst has been temporarily fixed, the gauss still loses packets and causes huge lag with half of the S4 player-base, something that doesn't happen in Ks4

Mindshock unbalanced - clearly the adminship is good at appointing GM's who never play and don't understand game mechanics at all

Cannonade glitching - though relatively secret [as it should be] cannonade's multiple hit style can easily be abused given you know what you're doing.

AP++ heavily unbalanced - 146 hp with maxed out defense makes a fully charged +0 railgun do only around 70-80 damage, often less than half their hp. +14 of any weapon is practically hacking 2x damage on your opponent.

Jessie makes a perfect point here. People who buy AP++ say they're "paying for our game" but all alaplaya does is shove that money into whatever hookers or booze they're buying and never fix the problems they've either purposely or inadvertently created. Patch 14 is clearly going to be no different. Hopefully when NAs4 comes out the adminship will be better.


I approve Jessie's rant. ~~ :cool:

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Originally Posted by grmlkuchen [ ] You know that Pentavision make the patches. [ ] You know that Alaplaya has no influence on the content of the patch [ ] You know that some Bugs are harder to find than others [ ] You have experiences in programming huge projects [x] You are a crybaby [x] You are a flamer [x] Your post fails so hard as you do

Fail #1 - Sir, never once did I say Alaplaya was responsible, or had ANYTHING to do with the issues of S4.
Fail #2 - The Ms bug is a simple glitch involving the calculation of damage dealt with every hit which is NOT a difficult thing to solve. This kinda of thing has happened before if you've played the game in question, and has been fixed rather quickly.
Fail #3 - I have more experience with coding and programming then you will ever hope to have.
Fail #4 - QQ somewhere else, if you don't like what you see. Move on.
Fail #5 - I don't flame without reason, though you seem to be the flamer here sir. =)

Say what ever helps you sleep at night, but you had no reason to say what you just did, it was uncalled for and not needed. I was merely expressing my own opinion, I don't know what communist country you're apparently from where your opinion doesn't matter, but where I come from everyone's opinion is valid.

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Originally Posted by nexuspact666 Clearly you don't play s4. The burst gauss and the burst handgun [anyone who's played long enough remembers these utter failures], along with their own personal fail-netcode are all alaplaya's own. They can't even jack their code from Pentavision properly really.

I lol'd so hard...own personal netcode of alaplaya.

Its the same netcode than in KS4 so its Pentavisions netcode translated (from Pentavision) for EUS4. And as said from a developer of alaplaya. The ISO-OSI seems unknown for korean developers so they failed

Read => inform yourself => think => post

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Clearly you don't play s4. The burst gauss and the burst handgun

Omg burst gauss and handgun was so terrible Q_Q.
If you take a game so serious and Q_Q about everything which is in it then you should stop playing

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but all alaplaya does is shove that money into whatever hookers or booze they're buying and never fix the problems they've either purposely or inadvertently created

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[ ] You know that Pentavision make the patches.

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Originally Posted by JessieXIII Fail #1 - Sir, never once did I say Alaplaya was responsible. Fail #2 - The Ms bug is a simple glitch involving the calculation of damage dealt with every hit which is NOT a difficult thing to solve. Fail #3 - I have more experience with coding and programming then you will ever hope to have. Fail #4 - QQ somewhere else, if you don't like what you see. Move on. Fail #5 - I don't flame without reason, though you seem to be the flamer here sir. =)

1. Yes you do. Not directly but this was definitly, what you meant. You would not say "they" if you had meant somethin different.

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Did they fix the completely screwed Mind shock? No. Did they even attempt to fix the dropping connections in game? No. Did they take a few minutes to look at the fail Cam glitch plaguing chaser? Of course not.

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What did they actually do? They made another attempt to put more money in their pockets by throwing in MORE AP/Premium items

2. Thats what you say. As I said. Obviously you have no experience in programming huge projects. I mean bigger than the shitty little Trainers here or some other mini applications.

3. [irony]Interesting, tell me more [/irony]

4.

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QQ somewhere else, if you don't like what you see. Move on.

^this
You should follow your advice ;)

5. You do "sir". It is a game and if you flame it or the companies of it then you have to be more retarded then I thought.

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I was merely expressing my own opinion,

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I don't know what communist country you're apparently from where your opinion doesn't matter, but where I come from everyone's opinion is valid.

^this

Edit : I'm no longer willing to pursue internet argument here.

IMO, alaplaya fails. Say what you want.

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Originally Posted by nexuspact666 IMO, alaplaya fails. Say what you want.

Its easier to complain about everything than to inform yourself properly or try to understand some facts, right? :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by JessieXIII Fail #1 - Sir, never once did I say Alaplaya was responsible, or had ANYTHING to do with the issues of S4. Fail #2 - The Ms bug is a simple glitch involving the calculation of damage dealt with every hit which is NOT a difficult thing to solve. This kinda of thing has happened before if you've played the game in question, and has been fixed rather quickly. Fail #3 - I have more experience with coding and programming then you will ever hope to have. Fail #4 - QQ somewhere else, if you don't like what you see. Move on. Fail #5 - I don't flame without reason, though you seem to be the flamer here sir. =) Say what ever helps you sleep at night, but you had no reason to say what you just did, it was uncalled for and not needed. I was merely expressing my own opinion, I don't know what communist country you're apparently from where your opinion doesn't matter, but where I come from everyone's opinion is valid.

i totally agree with you jessy!! cause of noob hack and kill everybody with 1 hit, that why they keep update patch isn't maker trainer fault but people of using who's use that trainer are stupid

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Originally Posted by girl007 i totally agree with you jessy!! cause of noob hack and kill everybody with 1 hit, that why they keep update patch isn't maker trainer fault but people of using who's use that trainer are stupid

Aaaaand heres anothe one. The monthly patches have nothing to do with the 1 hit script kiddys or fixing hax.

Pentavision makes the patches for EUS4. They are used to be monthly.

Alaplaya host the game. They get the Patches from Pentavision and patch their servers and the clients.

Ahnlab, the developer of Hackshield patches its Anti Hack solution independent from Alaplaya. Whenever they find trainers, they work on blocking them and then patch their Hack Shield.

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Originally Posted by grmlkuchen Its easier to complain about everything than to inform yourself properly or try to understand some facts, right?

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Originally Posted by grmlkuchen Aaaaand heres anothe one. The monthly patches have nothing to do with the 1 hit script kiddys or fixing hax. Pentavision makes the patches for EUS4. They are used to be monthly. Alaplaya host the game. They get the Patches from Pentavision and patch their servers and the clients. Ahnlab, the developer of Hackshield patches its Anti Hack solution independent from Alaplaya. Whenever they find trainers, they work on blocking them and then patch their Hack Shield.

Auch wenn Pentavision die Patches macht und alaplaya "nur" hostet,
so kann alaplaya trotzdem Druck auf Pentavision machen.

AP, Preise, Preise Ingame usw kann alaplaya selbst bestimmen. Dafür hat alaplaya genug Rechte.

Perm, HG-Autotaim, OP-MS, Anch-Aimhilfe.
All das kam seitens alaplaya.

Events, Eventkleidung. Das bestimmt alaplaya.

alaplaya hat weit mehr Rechte als man glaubt.
Aber oft schieben Leute wie Kintaro die Probleme auf Pentavision, sie könnten nix machen. Aber das stimmt absolut machen.

alaplaya steht nun in der Position, dass sie sehr sehr viel machen kann. Wieso? Weil sie durch den Verkauf von AP, soviel Kapital schlugen, dass sie sehr viel Druck auf Pentavision machen können.



Der Patch no13 ist wirklich sh!t.


Mehr AP-Sachen. OK die sind nicht schlimm.
Bug-Behebung, kann länger dauern.

aber 4. FREE CHANNEL?
wtf?? Ich weiss noch genau, wie es am Anfang von S4 war.
es hiess sowas wäre nicht möglich, (wers glaubt) und wäre zu teuer, wenn alaplaya das will.

und nun?
nen 4. Free Channel.

Bei Stosszeiten sind 2 Free Channel FAST voll.

der dritte bleibt leer.
WOZU dann 4. Channel? Das kostet ja nur mehr.



btw schon mal S4 Korea gzockt?

da ist es ganz anders gewesen. ^^

Startkapital bei 120k 2 perm waffen 1 perm skill von anfang an

alaplaya: 55k (nur durch tutorial) 2 waffen und 1 skill (für 10h)

nun kamen die halbstarken waffen und der halbstarke skill.
(hatte nach der Beta das vorgeschlagen [wenige Tage danach])

das hätten sie von Anfang an machen können, da Permwaffen schon existierten.

und DMG runterschrauben wär kein Problem (sieht man ja an den Trainern xD)



oder hier

ähnliches Beispiel:

Dragonica:

gpotato und THQ ICE
wieso haben die Hoster andere Cash-Items? und andere Preise?
obwohl es den gleichen Entwickler haben?

hm kP.


nun Fazit:
alaplaya kann viel. zB. DMG von MS zB locker runterschrauben lassen. Permsachen einfügen lassen, oder so dass Permwaffen für AP-User zugänglich sind (Skin kann man wählen, +6 nicht nur +2 oder so)
das wäre ne gute AUSBALANCIERTE Möglichkeit.
nur bei der Bugbeseitigung kann sie nicht viel machen, ausser dem Entwickler zu sagen, dass solche Bugs da sind.

und PATCH 13 is a HUGE Fail :D

alaplaya, games everything? NO---> alagaya, fails everything.



lg Topa :D

I agree with Jessie and Nexus.
The difference between the status stadistics between AP users and Regular users is too high.
Also, The only thing Alaplaya really changes for us are the Values that people here use to hack o_o.. I mean the weapons they threw in this time are suckier than ever if you ask me.
Also @ grmlkuchen , about that arguement. Yes Everyone has a right to express themselves and give their opinion, but without minimizing, flaming anyone else's opinion. You were totally disrespectful, and name-calling is never needed. (Points at you calling Jessie a Retard). If you disagree with her opinion just say so and that's that. No need to make such a big fuss out of something like this.
Please next time you post try to be respectful and don't do/say stuff you wouldnt like people to do/say to you.

Thank you.


:D Baii <3

Thanks for that, but really I would just ignore him from now on. He obviously just wants the attention. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion yes, but you're not giving your own opinion when you're trying to discredit someone else by trying to convince others that they don't know what they are talking about. We call these internet 12 years olds flamers, and trolls.

Just ignore him. Say what you want about my rant, give your own opinion. Good or bad I don't care, but don't deliberately flame for no reason. It's uncalled for and very childish.