[Question]Devs of private servers, are you really programming?

Hi, I am dealing with one question now. I have seen so many people that were talking about fixing bugs on server and how hard it is. As much as I am learning OGL I know what are you talking about. I just want to make things clear for me. Devs of the private servers, basically, how fixing of bugs looks? I dont think any of that kids(honor to expections) learned something about DX and C++ and understood style how the game is written. So my question is: are you really programming when you are fixing the bugs, and for example adding new effects to the game? From theards here, I understood that you probably have an access to the source of the game, even if it is closed source, that is because of that server files, am I wrong? So you could basically add, for example, new pieces of UI, like boxes, you could write another shaders for it, or you could optimise the game.

I would like someone explain it to me better.

Maybe will help you. Ok than so, about programming, not all kids from epvp are really programing but for exemple we have here some guys with c++, vb. Net, PHP knowledge exemple jirukus , he's so good in c++ and vb net of corse he know how to work with Hex too, other one is stoterer09 a guy who help a lot of people with his knowledge (tcd editor), glossy & sicarium they are really greate both. + luoo , another genius.*Sorry if i forget someone*
To fix a bug in 4story. You need to have some programmings knowledge.
We have source of game but original source come with a lot of backdoors and people from here fix it .

You havent saied anything about DX. Just a C++ knowledge will not be enough. And VB and PHP are not related to the game, are they?

Other thing you need is probably SQL, From what i have seen like someone released a "FIX" for something, it has always been something written in SQL, so i thought, you cant fix a bug in source of the game.

So, I understood no one here is able to do something bigger with the game, but you have all the sources of for example new patches, where you are fixing something. It could be nice if i could see a basic bug, i know it is different every time :D , just to know how it could look. I dont think ZEMI releases it or from where you have got it with bugs..

But i think i understood, Thanks.

almost all tools for server are made in VB.NET, PHP is using for CMS and yes, SQL too, i forgot some details but I hope you understand what I want to say.

And I am pretty sure you understand wrong

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I understood no one here is able to do something bigger with the game.

Exemple: Jirkus, FiveStories developer has write by himself pet system from scratch, so some guys here have enought knowledge to make something different from game.

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Originally Posted by Kalir44 You havent saied anything about DX. Just a C++ knowledge will not be enough. And VB and PHP are not related to the game, are they? Other thing you need is probably SQL, From what i have seen like someone released a "FIX" for something, it has always been something written in SQL, so i thought, you cant fix a bug in source of the game. So, I understood no one here is able to do something bigger with the game, but you have all the sources of for example new patches, where you are fixing something. It could be nice if i could see a basic bug, i know it is different every time :D , just to know how it could look. I dont think ZEMI releases it or from where you have got it with bugs.. But i think i understood, Thanks.

Many parts of the server are written in SQL Scripts. The complete SQL Wrapper is made with SQL Scripts afaik. So SQL is really really important

It is true that u don't need vb c# and php to do something directly ingame

But u need php for example for gm Tools or for the website
And many other tools are written in vb.net or c#.net
for example my tcd editors

90% of the forum are noobs/kids
But they are easily to detect:
they act like noobs/kids
they write with big letters
they aren't able to speak understandable english

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Originally Posted by YellowSwag Exemple: Jirkus, FiveStories developer has write by himself pet system from scratch, so some guys here have enought knowledge to make something different from game.

Didnt know that. If he actually can do something like that, why doesnt he create something custom..? Things on his server looks the same like things on officials.

Thanks to all. I was just just dealing with whether the devs of privates do something, or they are just talking about hard work

I have full new UI, like on official. It is first server with this... But we can´t edit objects right now, when we will do it, it will be another game. Now we can edit just maps (FiveStories)

No were playing with sticks and stones :(
*flame income*