About Conquer Programming!!

Hey everybody!
I just wanna ask you ..
Tomorrow i'm going to my first lecture in MCSD Diploma
[ Microsoft Certified Solution Developer ]

this course explain C#, LINQ and ASP.Net
here is the outline and course description :
[Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

So .. i just wanna to ask . will this course be useful for me to set off in conquer private servers programming and developing?

and wat should i have with this course to be able to develop co-sources professionally?

Thank you all :)

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Originally Posted by FromHell2Kill Hey everybody! I just wanna ask you .. Tomorrow i'm going to my first lecture in MCSD Diploma [ Microsoft Certified Solution Developer ] this course explain C#, LINQ and ASP.Net here is the outline and course description : [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] So .. i just wanna to ask . will this course be useful for me to set off in conquer private servers programming and developing? and wat should i have with this course to be able to develop co-sources professionally? Thank you all :)

Well, it doesn't hurt. That's actually a very good step forward - I wish you luck. Just be aware that computer science requires a lot of patience and hard work. What you need to get out of that course is the ability to teach yourself. You will not be able to learn everything you need to create a private server with in a class like that - that's just the nature of computer science - but hopefully it'll teach you how to approach problems. If not, an introduction to computer science (maybe in C++) might be a good course for you as well.

Firstly, thanks for moving my threat to the right section and sorry for my mistake.
Secondly, I know that not so easy to know everything about CS. I can get it with the experience and reading much. So, thanks for your advice and about C++ .. I had got an intro to it in my college from "COUT" statement to "CLASSES" so is that useful for me? Or isn't enough?
And I already like C# not only for conquer .. But for ASP + windows phone developing so I think it will be a very powerful course for me.
what's ur opinion? :)

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Originally Posted by FromHell2Kill Firstly, thanks for moving my threat to the right section and sorry for my mistake. Secondly, I know that not so easy to know everything about CS. I can get it with the experience and reading much. So, thanks for your advice and about C++ .. I had got an intro to it in my college from "COUT" statement to "CLASSES" so is that useful for me? Or isn't enough? And I already like C# not only for conquer .. But for ASP + windows phone developing so I think it will be a very powerful course for me. what's ur opinion? :)

Computer Science is an ever-evolving field. You will never know everything about Computer Science, as that would be impossible. Research is being made every day towards new technology and software architectures. That is somewhat the beauty of the field though - you can paint a picture in so many thousands of ways, as you can program a system using so many different techniques and designs.

Regarding how to approach problems... most colleges teach introductory computer science incorrectly, which is why the fail rate is so high in the first semester. You've got these web designers trying to teach an object-oriented programming language - it's ridiculous. Try taking a look at my signature. I believe the first link is advice I wrote up a long time ago on how to approach software problems. I may replace it since it's at my attention now... I can give much better advice with the additional years of experience I have.

Your final question was in regards to C#. You are correct, it has many applications. The business programming world has taken a shine to it; so have amateur game programmers. C# scales quickly and comes with additional benefits (modularity, abstraction, inheritance, managed memory allocation, etc). C++, on the other hand, is slightly more challenging to scale, but also comes with benefits (modularity, abstraction, inheritance, advanced generics, native memory allocation, etc). It is much more powerful and more efficient. C# does not compare. The reason why this section uses C# is because it's a scalable, managed language. Better than Java, I suppose.

Edit: Oh yeah, I'm definitely writing a new advice thread. I can easily put that old thread to shame. You can expect to see it possibly tomorrow, else some time in the next few weeks (that's how my schedule works).

Thanks for ur Quick reply .. but just one point i wanna to understand.
Is C++ more powerful and fast than C#?

i like C++ more than C# but i thought that CSharp is more powerful ..
However, i can change my way to complete C++ > OOP > Windows Application Programming with it!!

Yeah, i like that much really :D
i wish you agree with me?

and another issue ..
what's your opinion about learning from OnlineCourses is it a good choise? because i'm very lazy to go to training centers :D

also, i have a Book Called " C++ How To Program ".
should i use it?

sorry for my questions but i have to know everything myself because nobody helps in my institute.

Thank you and i will take a look at your posts :)

Pardon any spelling mistakes. It's late and I'm not checking this post. Both languages have their uses. C# would definitely be easier to start with for Conquer Online programming, which is why the community has leaned towards C# development. If you have experience in C++, you should use that experience to learn about the Windows Socket API (WSA). It can be challenging though. C# sockets, on the other hand, are extremely easy to learn in comparison, and if you don't know how to design a scalable application, the better option. Regarding that book on C++... I would recommend reading it if it can teach you some problem solving skills.

I think C++ will be my direction :)
Thanks eng ^_^

thnix

Sorry for dump something like that! :D but how hard is studying in CS Collage?! :D I'm going to join it! lol! First year after 2 months! << So i need to work so so hard?! :D And it depends on what? Most of it Coding? or What?! :)))
I wanna to be Pro and get A+ or A! :D So give me an advice! :) What should i do?
Thanks!

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Originally Posted by GameHacker-PM- Sorry for dump something like that! :D but how hard is studying in CS Collage?! :D I'm going to join it! lol! First year after 2 months! << So i need to work so so hard?! :D And it depends on what? Most of it Coding? or What?! :))) I wanna to be Pro and get A+ or A! :D So give me an advice! :) What should i do? Thanks!

It depends on the college. Where I went, there were always active tutors in the lab to help students (I was one of them, so I've seen students succeed and fail). Without the tutors, it would have been much more difficult on the students, and most campuses don't have tutors like that. The major itself is difficult (from what I've heard and seen from other students) - but if you can get past the initial hump (like many have) and you have a drive for programming, you should be in the clear. You can always give it a shot. If it's not for you, then you drop the class - no harm done.

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Originally Posted by Spirited You can always give it a shot. If it's not for you, then you drop the class - no harm done.

Except that those classes probably cost money, so the harm you do is time, money and effort.

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Originally Posted by turk55 Except that those classes probably cost money, so the harm you do is time, money and effort.

If money is an issue, as it was for me, financial aid is always available... usually year-round, depending on the country and all that.

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Originally Posted by Spirited If money is an issue, as it was for me, financial aid is always available... usually year-round, depending on the country and all that.

Or come to Cluj Napoca, Romania, enjoy your free university, free housing (if you get good marks), and lots of interesting people and way lower prices overall.