[Question] Players needs.

05/30/2014 01:10 xClock#1
Dear Silkroad Players,

For 3 months from today I have closely browsed the Silkroad forums sections including adversitements forums. I can infer that servers are being done by owner-amators (what has been disscused in another topic), based on tutorials - there are thousands of server which contains less than 100 people (or even ~30). I might say that some of them are applicable, except the team which is handling the project.

Some months ago I have started to scan the existing vSRO database to understand how does tables works and so on. I'm PHP developer and I catch the programming language pretty easily I have decided to a clean database and edit some procedures for optimalization - it worked just abit. I have done files to match client between server so it is same now. Let's say that I did bugless base for the future server including scripts in MSSQL and generators to make the work less time. Till now you may say that I'd like to create a server. Correct. I would do it, but with proper idea. Thread may be useless, because anyone is able to make such shitty server with pseudo classic included, but as far as your capabilities please try to anwser my questions below.

I can divide servers into 2 types, actually Classic and Modern.
The point of classic mode as people says is generally oldschool servers such like ECSRO, SJSRO, MHTC, ZSZC, etc. I can see that community wants and need it, but yeah. When someone is doing server like that (based on old CSRO files or converting vSRO 188) nobody is playing this server. The pretty anwser of person which sees the server is "I would play there, when the most part of players would be there". Nobody enters this server, so normally server dies because of small population.
This second one is modern mode - this full awesome, proffesional with unique systems, angel spirit and others, which is basically done for turkish players or arab one. But wait, they are being hated there on ePVP and online at server there is huge amount of people, not bots. They are playing D16 cap servers with shitty graphics, what's wrong with them, could someone tell me, please?

As a practical guy, which knows PHP, is able to create dynamic content scripts I am still learning. Why? The reason is that everything is getting newer, so the old knowledge will be rarely used. This should be same with Silkroad community, but unfortunately it doesn't.

What more you bet, players? New features mixed with existing one or classic gameplay (actually, now in 2014). I realize that everybody may have different tastes.

Thanks, xClock.

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05/30/2014 04:05 GlavierMe#2
well, ur kinda right people always requesting servers and when those servers up they just leave it ! but it's not at all servers for example skalidor had 2k online ( bots or whatever i dont care but server was full ) so its not about the server it self all the time, sometimes its about the team also

so for me i prefer classic gameplay, i mean start from level 1 , grind till max level , do job or whatever ( based on server type ) do alchemy , get better items ... etc

for me i hate uniques ! i prefer job is much better also low cap, am in love with oldschool servers ( 80~90 ) but at cap 90 the force has fucked the gameplay so everyone is glavier with 20 level ( cold ) using shield + snow and running, then back to attack --> hit and run what i mean at ecsro we never had that type of players .. they probably eu players i mean didn't play any oldschool servers like ecsro or zszc

also iam an ARAB player also i think none hated me here, so before you insult turks or arabs just think about ur server , do u know a server without turks or arabs lol i cant imagine how many players will be there, maybe maximum 100 ?

so please try to think abit that not everyone turk or arab is idiot ( 10q plz men )..
05/30/2014 06:44 AceSpace#3
As a member who has been on elitepvpers for 3 years especially in sro section. I would suggest closing this thread as there had been a lot of threads like this one. This guy is obviously advertising his "incoming" server, doesn't look like he has any experience with vsro just yet. Also adding released stuff without making your own won't make your server special.

#Classic; Get vsro files, change the cap/skills to 80 and disable Euro. "Wouldn't take more than 10 minutes."
#Modern; Go to "Private SRO Exploits/Hacks/Bots/Guides" section, keep adding some released shitty stuff like "Angel Spirit" <- You mentioned it. AND BOOM Modern server. SO PROFESSIONAL. That's why they get 1 ~ 250 players max.
#The future of these servers; Lasts only a week or two. The team doesn't has any experience, using released stuff without knowing how it was done/made and not making/doing their own stuff.

Doesn't seem like he has anything to discuss. All of what he said is bullshit which we had seen or well read a lot of times before. There are so many threads like this one and most of them were closed because the thread's starter was actually advertising his server before opening it.
If you have any server or well a good idea. Make it and create a thread on "Private SRO Advertising" Section. Every server "Not exactly every server just like 3% of the servers" has its own unique "feature" not system, you can expect players to tell you "MAKE ZOMBIE MAP/TOWN, CREATE A NEW RACE." without experience you can't do anything of this. Even the best sro developer available currently can't do it "Its not easy as you think, just look around and check what is needed to create a map etc or even a race other than euro,chin and you'll understand what i mean".

Whatever, I would recommend closing this thread. Thank you!
05/30/2014 08:34 xClock#4
Dear ˛˛Rock˛˛,

Please do not suggest anything about my experience until you know what you are writting. The thread have been done to get an anwsers from Community, not just ads, which you are hunting for. Most of threads like you said were closed and they are just old to use them again.
I have mentioned modern server as a "proffesional" one, because I seen a lot of turkish people on them, that is the reason.
"MAKE ZOMBIE MAP/TOWN" - Why the fuck zombie should be included is Silkroad, does this game have anything related to zombie mod?
"CREATE A NEW RACE" - Yeah it's not so easy, I agree. To create new race you have to add character objects, skills, items and a map (this last one is not required to run server with 3rd race). You might use any other BSR as the base if you don't have 3D Modeller in your team :) The hardest part is encoding .exe`s. Theoretically it's easy if you connect new rows between other tables, practially just 1/2 of it.

Thanks, xClock.
05/30/2014 08:50 magicanoo#5
You should focus primarily on two things:
-Stability
-Advertisement

Once you get these two done, Get a decent team to work on the server and you'll get players, no matter what (classic or modern).
About PHP utilization, it's a good idea. However, people are using PHP just for website scripts and most "automated" stuff are powered by C#.
05/30/2014 22:09 3ssense#6
Quote:
Originally Posted by magicanoo View Post
You should focus primarily on two things:
-Stability
-Advertisement

Once you get these two done, Get a decent team to work on the server and you'll get players, no matter what (classic or modern).
About PHP utilization, it's a good idea. However, people are using PHP just for website scripts and most "automated" stuff are powered by C#.
+ creativity for building new system, or rebuilding them. :D
05/31/2014 00:31 xClock#7
Quote:
Originally Posted by 3ssense View Post
+ creativity for building new system, or rebuilding them. :D
Just in case when you are using "modern" mode.
05/31/2014 01:15 Royalblade*#8
Your thread title and question is also the answer.

Players need players. That's it. If you have a server with 1000 players, another 500 people will join you. Once you have 1500 players, another 500 will join you.

There is nobody he who can say they miss "oldschoolness" or w/e. All they truly want is a full stable server with lots of asses to penetrate.
05/31/2014 01:30 Violett#9
virtual fame
05/31/2014 02:32 clericakar#10
Silkroad is dead you can play on VietnamSRO 2.5k online 90cap full ch or go play archage
05/31/2014 03:03 xClock#11
Hello,

As I can see there, that some of anwsers depart from the thread point. Clericakar, I know the 3Job server and I was proud to talk with GM also. Most of these 2,5k players are bots and vietnamese players, so I think that you wouldn't play so long there, because there are lags also.

Referring to the Royal`s anwser:

You are completly correct. Players needs players. So as far I know (collected from another threads) there should be responsive team and stable server, but this second one nobody can guarantee that it's exploitess even if you have fixed known holes. Everytime it gets down you lose players, but when you fix it, you need to gain players again. Anyway stable server is stable, when they will see that it's online long time they should back. Isn't it like that?
06/08/2014 14:19 Tustin1337#12
There is no point of creating such a thread, questions About it could be found around. Thus if you are planning to open a p-server then be sure you're just getting it worse. Every day an old Silkroad player turns his attention to servers profits and start to think smartly - I'll open my own p-server - and this how the community gets low everyday. If the files weren't released we all wouldn't be here discussing the Status of current P-silkroad servers rather than we would be playing together in a server.