Steed Colour Breeding

07/17/2009 01:10 coconuttommo#1
okay im back, one day wiser :)

so to breed for a certain colour you must have your starter horse and then breed onto it with any of the 3 varieties (black,white or maroon), when you breed the 3 coloured bars at the bottom change so if you breed methodically you can end up exactly where you want :)

***EDIT*** if you look at the screenys at the bottom you will see that the orange bar is maroon, the blue is white and the green is black, the numbers stand for how much of the bar is filled (the bar is 96 pixels long, so effectivly a colour percentage)

unfortunately i am not in the position to spend loads ofcps on +1 horses so my experience is limited to finding saddles, which is rather slower. so hoping some rich person can kinda jump in with loads of raw data :P

but yeah basically so far i have bred a gold and a red steed.

gold came from maroon onto cobalt, cobalt was black onto saphire, which was maroon onto mortar which was black onto white (i think, im sorry i forgot to note exactly) so i propose we use notation Wbmbm to signify this

red was a very long trip from tawny (maroon onto white) which ended up in getting stuck at agate for ages (white seemed to solve this :)) sorry i cant remember exactly

but yeah i was hoping for some exact routes to colour from the community, also if you could post a screeny of the colour bars at the bottom that might help.


thanks for reading and i look forward to some contributions :)
07/17/2009 14:32 coconuttommo#2
okay im trying to quantify the effects of each horse as a minor breed.

in the originals of the screenies above each bar is 96 pixels long.

a stock white horse has 0 maroon, 94 white and 55 black.
Wm - 8/90/49 (white) effect (8/-4/-6)
Wb - 4/84/58 (mortar) effect (4/-12/3)

a stock black horse has 55 maroon, 0 white and 94 black.
Bw - 49/8/90 (white) effect (-6/8/-4/)
Bm - 58/4/84 (mortar) effect (3/4/-12)

a stock maroon horse has 94 maroon, 55 white and 0 black.
Mb - 90/49/8 (white) effect (-4/-6/8)
Mw - 84/58/4 (mortar) effect (-12/3/4)

as you can see the relationships between the colours are fixed, i am still hunting for saddles to see if the effects remain the same on the second teir of breeding (also have to see what happens when 2 of the same colour are bred)

if anyone has masses of cps they are willing to donate (il give you a horse at the end) pm me ;)

***EDIT***
after looking at breeding with my gold and red it seems that unfortunately breeding does not change the bars by a fixed amount each time (like the -4/-6/8 above), instead the new horses bars will tend towards those of the minor breed from the major one (so if there is a big gap the change will be bigger and towards it, if the gap is small, little change).

so unfortunately calculating exact routes will be hard without masses of raw data, but i hope for some screenies from community of the rarer colours anyway to allow for more accurate breeding.

also all my raw data is in the screenies, if anyone can find some seeper analysis please tell me :)

thanks for reading
07/17/2009 14:33 coconuttommo#3
probably will never need this one but oh well just incase ;)

feedback/contributions is much appreciated and can start now :)
07/17/2009 17:00 i lol i#4
Main Steed + Minor Steed = New steed
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Pine Steed

Pine Steed + Maroon Steed= Sapphire steed
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Sapphire Steed

Sapphire Steed + Maroon Steedx2= Cobalt Steed
Sapphire Steed + Black Steed = Cobalt Steed
Sapphire Steed + White Steedx5 = Diamond Steed
Sapphire Steed + Black Steedx4 = Java steed
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Cobalt Steed

Cobalt Steed + Maroon Steed + Black steed = Sapphire Steed
Cobalt Steed + Shadow Steed = Sapphire Steed
Cobalt Steed + White Steed = Sapphire Steed
Cobalt Steed + Maroon Steed = Emerald Steed
Cobalt Steed + Maroon Steed = Moon Steed
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White Steed

White Steed + Black Steed = Mortar Steed
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Red Steed

Red Steed + Maroon Steed= Agate Steed
Red Steed + White Steed= Sapphire Steed
Red Steed + Yellow Steed = Agate Steed
Red Steed + Khaki Steed = Agate Steed
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Agate Steed

Agate Steed + White Steed= Red Steed
Agate Steed + Black Steed= Red Steed
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Maroon Steed

Maroon Steed + White Steed = Tawny Steed
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Shadow Steed

Shadow Steed + Golden Steed= Agate Steed
Shadow Steed + White Steed + Maroon Steed = Red Steed
Shadow Steed + Tawny Steed = Pink Steed
Shadow Steed + White Steedx2 = Ivory Steed
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Tawny Steed

Tawny Steed + Mortar Steed= Khaki Steed
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Khaki Steed

Khaki Steed + Shadow Steedx2 = Yellow Steed
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Mortar Steed

Mortar Steed + Maroon Steed = Emerald Steed
Mortar Steed + Red steed = Diamond Steed
Mortar Steed + Maroonx5 = Emerald Steed
Mortar Steed + White Steedx5 + Black Steed = Diamond Steed
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Black Steed

Black Steed + White Steed + Maroon Steed = Shadow Steed
Black Steed + Maroon Steedx3 = Pink Steed
Black Steed + White Steedx2 = Shadow Steed
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Gold Steed

Gold Steed + White Steed = Sapphire Steed
07/17/2009 17:27 coconuttommo#5
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Main Steed + Minor Steed = New steed
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Pine Steed

Pine Steed + Maroon Steed= Sapphire steed
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Sapphire Steed

Sapphire Steed + Maroon Steedx2= Cobalt Steed
Sapphire Steed + Black Steed = Cobalt Steed
Sapphire Steed + White Steedx5 = Diamond Steed
Sapphire Steed + Black Steedx4 = Java steed
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Cobalt Steed

Cobalt Steed + Maroon Steed + Black steed = Sapphire Steed
Cobalt Steed + Shadow Steed = Sapphire Steed
Cobalt Steed + White Steed = Sapphire Steed
Cobalt Steed + Maroon Steed = Emerald Steed
Cobalt Steed + Maroon Steed = Moon Steed
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White Steed

White Steed + Black Steed = Mortar Steed
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Red Steed

Red Steed + Maroon Steed= Agate Steed
Red Steed + White Steed= Sapphire Steed
Red Steed + Yellow Steed = Agate Steed
Red Steed + Khaki Steed = Agate Steed
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Agate Steed

Agate Steed + White Steed= Red Steed
Agate Steed + Black Steed= Red Steed
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Maroon Steed

Maroon Steed + White Steed = Tawny Steed
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Shadow Steed

Shadow Steed + Golden Steed= Agate Steed
Shadow Steed + White Steed + Maroon Steed = Red Steed
Shadow Steed + Tawny Steed = Pink Steed
Shadow Steed + White Steedx2 = Ivory Steed
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Tawny Steed

Tawny Steed + Mortar Steed= Khaki Steed
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Khaki Steed

Khaki Steed + Shadow Steedx2 = Yellow Steed
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Mortar Steed

Mortar Steed + Maroon Steed = Emerald Steed
Mortar Steed + Red steed = Diamond Steed
Mortar Steed + Maroonx5 = Emerald Steed
Mortar Steed + White Steedx5 + Black Steed = Diamond Steed
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Black Steed

Black Steed + White Steed + Maroon Steed = Shadow Steed
Black Steed + Maroon Steedx3 = Pink Steed
Black Steed + White Steedx2 = Shadow Steed
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Gold Steed

Gold Steed + White Steed = Sapphire Steed
waw that is alot of cps/time. as there is a fairly wide margin of error in each of the colours (ie. bars can chaneg but not colour) then searching for a new colour can be hard (ie. coblat + maroon steed = emerald/moon steed) these are both possibilities, the result depends on the bars of the cobalt steed (i am assuming the maroon steed was stock).

could i ask for screenies? or breeding paths starting from stock steeds as then we can be sure of reaching the intended colour
07/17/2009 19:04 ToMaLaLoL#6
does anyone got a recipe how to make a Passion ??
07/17/2009 20:57 yogiho2#7
can any one tell me how to get golden horse ?
07/17/2009 21:56 ninjashinobi#8
i have a cobalt horse and i already put maroon horses and it dont changed into a emerald horse

can anyone tell me how i can have a emerald horse? or post the status os the emerald horse...
07/17/2009 22:08 i lol i#9
I will start re-breeding horses, With gold I found that you really have to watch the bar. If your adding maroon and the bottom bar is going down instead of up, then switch to adding black horses. I read your steps above to help make mine, and I actually skipped the sapphire horse, and it went straight to cobalt. Everyone will be doing it a different way, but they are along the same lines. If you don't get the horse you want, downgrade it and re-upgrade it with a selected horse. (Like I did with gold.) I sell the horses I bred when I get them (For profit of course, I sold my gold for 80 cps and it had a lineage level of 0.) And I got it for only about 48 cps. When making gold I came across Agate aswell, so it really depends on the way you do it. Anyways, which horses would you like me to try to breed? Other than shadow >.> That one is just not worth what you put into it... For some reason I came across that breeding gold too >.<

Edit: Also the x5 and such are estimates, It won't be the same for everyone...

When you compose:

White:

Blue Bar- Increases
Orange Bar- Decreases

Black:
Green Bar - Increases
Blue Bar - Decreases

Maroon:
Orange Bar - Increases
Green Bar - Decreases

AGATE:
50 Percent - Orange
30 Percent - Blue
50 Percent - Green

RED:
90 Percent -Orange
20 Percent -Blue
90 Percent -Green

COBALT:
25 Percent - Orange
80 Percent - Blue
30 Percent - Green

EMERALD
20 Percent - Orange
90 Percent - Blue
40 Percent - Green

SAPHIRE
35 Percent - Orange
55 Percent - Blue
55 Percent - Green

GOLDEN
50 Percent - Orange
50 Percent - Blue
50 Percent - Green

YELLOW
55 Percent - Orange
55 Percent - Blue
35 Percent - Green

KHAKI
60 Percent - Orange
55 Percent - Blue
25 Percent - Green

PINE
15 Percent - Orange
55 Percent - Blue
70 Percent - Green

TAWNY
75 Percent - Orange
55 Percent - Blue
15 Percent - Green

IVORY
30 Percent - Orange
45 Percent - Blue
75 Percent - Green

JAVA
35 Percent - Orange
50 Percent - Blue
65 Percent - Green

SANDY
80 Percent - Orange
45 Percent - Blue
20 Percent - Green

Remember, These are ESTIMATES. Meaning it will be around these values. It could be about -5/+5 off. So don't waste steeds trying to make it exact unless it just really isn't working out for you.

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07/17/2009 23:37 ninjashinobi#10
then if i take my cobalt horse and put white horses on it he turn into a emerald horse???
07/17/2009 23:52 i lol i#11
Not what I meant >.< I mean if you add a horse to decrease stats, you can try again but with a different horse, and you might get it. If not, you might have to try something else. No ones horses are exactly the same. Just use the table I put up there to figure out what to do with your horse...
07/17/2009 23:56 coconuttommo#12
hey, hope you like my attempts with counting pixels :)

from preliminary tests i dont think i is a constant change depending which you breed, yes the bars do go up and down but not by a strict amount :(

is that flame horse for real???
07/18/2009 00:10 i lol i#13
Yeah that's a real one xD You have the bars, now all you need is the luck >.< Even if you get those exact bars you have to be lucky enough to actually obtain the option of getting that horse... Best of luck if you try lolz =)
07/18/2009 00:48 Jovany#14
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Originally Posted by i lol i View Post
Yeah that's a real one xD You have the bars, now all you need is the luck >.< Even if you get those exact bars you have to be lucky enough to actually obtain the option of getting that horse... Best of luck if you try lolz =)
i post your idea on my site,hope you will not be mad on me,ty very much:handsdown:
07/18/2009 00:52 coconuttommo#15
what were you breeding to get it?

iv done some more analysis using gold and red steed, would appear that the amount the bars move depends on the distance it is from stock (and this is a fixed relationship, hence consistant results with stock animals :))