I want to start botting with cogenius

06/23/2013 02:59 zoki#1
I want to start brand new chars, but i need to know on which server there are cheapest dbs and the lower banning rate?
no matter if its eu or us i just want to be safe.
06/23/2013 10:12 pro4never#2
then why use CoG if you want to be safe?... It has the slowest updates of any paid bot on the market (you can accuse me of bashing all you want but it's a mere fact at this point that Co AI and chrome update after major changes faster)
06/23/2013 12:35 zoki#3
ahm... i will look it up.. but first i need to research for the safest server.
06/23/2013 19:41 pro4never#4
Generally lowest population will be safer (less people to report you) but you should always consider your botters disposable.

They WILL be banned sooner or later. It's simply how conquer botting works these days. Run them on a separate IP address, bot them hard for a few days and then dump all the profits to a intermediate trader and start again on a new account. Generally in my tests I bot each character for 48 hours then bundle up all its findings. If an account goes for about 7-14 days without being banned I then delete the character and retire that account.
06/24/2013 00:01 Trigorio#5
I would recommend CoGenius, pro4nevers reviews are heavily out of date.
06/24/2013 00:13 pro4never#6
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Originally Posted by Trigorio View Post
I would recommend CoGenius, pro4nevers reviews are heavily out of date.
All I said towards CoG is that it has the slowest updates of the paid bots. I seriously doubt you can honestly claim otherwise. All of chrome's updates I've seen have been under 12 hours when new restrictions and major updates have taken place, CoAI seems to be around same pace.

I've yet to see one major tq update where CoG has not been the last up and working 100 percent.

And no, cliented does not count.
06/24/2013 00:29 Trigorio#7
@zoki, by all means, go get CoAI. You'll be back.

@pro4never, right cliented doesn't count. Because I mean, if you get tons of dragonballs and cash it just simply doesn't count for some reason. The logic? When exactly was the last major tq update by your definition? In the ice age?
06/24/2013 00:51 InfamousNoone#8
I see Dean is as funny as ever.
06/24/2013 04:15 pro4never#9
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Originally Posted by Trigorio View Post
@zoki, by all means, go get CoAI. You'll be back.

@pro4never, right cliented doesn't count. Because I mean, if you get tons of dragonballs and cash it just simply doesn't count for some reason. The logic? When exactly was the last major tq update by your definition? In the ice age?
Major updates = any significant changes to anti bot checks, encryption tweaks, policy changes, etc.

Very broad term but I feel it still applies rather well.

I make no claims that CoG is 'useless' but I don't feel it can match up to bots that actually offer proper, up to date, fully working clientless functionality. There's just no comparison if you're running a large number of characters consistently.
06/25/2013 21:34 Trigorio#10
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Originally Posted by pro4never View Post
Major updates = any significant changes to anti bot checks, encryption tweaks, policy changes, etc.

Very broad term but I feel it still applies rather well.

I make no claims that CoG is 'useless' but I don't feel it can match up to bots that actually offer proper, up to date, fully working clientless functionality. There's just no comparison if you're running a large number of characters consistently.
Our users are running anything between 5 and 60 (dual subscription) characters depending on how comfortable they are themselves with running a lot of chars. How many more exactly do they need to run for it to be a large number of characters? A thousand?
06/26/2013 03:16 pro4never#11
The time alone to manually log more than a handful of characters in before swapping to your 'clientless' is enough reason to never touch the bot in my eyes.

Your bot is fine, many people like it. It's simply got too many drawbacks for me to ever consider especially given the update track record.
06/26/2013 16:23 Trigorio#12
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The time alone to manually log more than a handful of characters in before swapping to your 'clientless' is enough reason to never touch the bot in my eyes.

Your bot is fine, many people like it. It's simply got too many drawbacks for me to ever consider especially given the update track record.
You have absolutely no idea of what you are talking about.

Our bot is fully automated, with the click of a single button you can have 30 characters logged in (per subscription) and have them bot ALL FULLY AUTOMATED.

You really think our users log in each char manually and put them into clientless? What a joke.

It's clear that you are completely clueless regarding CoGs features and probably haven't tried it in years, yet somehow you think you can judge based on assumptions?