Free progress from +1 items etc

I posted this before but its not showing up so here it goes

Just going to tell you how you do it on a +1 and +2 item..

You get a +1 item and +2 item so usually most people put +1 item in to the +2 item to make the progress 10/80 on the +2..

Well to save money and what i do is put the +2( which gives 40 progress) and put it in the +1 item.. once you do that the +1 will turn into a +2 items with 20/80 progress.. This can be very helpful when you want to + your items up.

I am pretty sure it would work for +2-+3 items and so on.. go give it a try i know i am happy that i figured this out :P

Well, I tell you, you are a HUGE DUMB... When you get a +1 wait to get 2 items +1 to make urs +2 then ull wait for 2 items +2 to make ur +2 into +3, +2
This way you make a item +4 with 9 +1 INSTEAD of your DUMB CONCLUSION of make a item +3 with a +2(3 +1's) and then 2 more +2's...

I would advice to dont make DUMB and RETARDED posts.

Thanks.

he is saying don't use +1 stones/items because they only give 10 progress points.
instead, find 3 +1 stones/items to compose into a +2, as a +2 gives 40 progress points.
3 +1 = 10 progress points.
1 +2 = 40 progress points.
simple math.

Basically, as fart said:

3x +1 = 30 ---Composed--> 40
30 -> 40
A gain of 10 points for a bit of patience (or thinking). However, this is the only composition in the whole table that yields a gain like this, so the best way get your items composed is to grab three +1 items every time till it upgrades. Unless the price of a +2/+3/+# is cheaper than the cost of the +1's, of course. Though I thought this was common knowledge by now.

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Originally Posted by oxideman I would advice to dont make DUMB and RETARDED posts. Thanks.

Follow own advice, men?

Thanks.

But seriously, he said the same thing you did (I think), just differently worded. I guess you misunderstood it.

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Originally Posted by oxideman Well, I tell you, you are a HUGE DUMB... When you get a +1 wait to get 2 items +1 to make urs +2 then ull wait for 2 items +2 to make ur +2 into +3, +2 This way you make a item +4 with 9 +1 INSTEAD of your DUMB CONCLUSION of make a item +3 with a +2(3 +1's) and then 2 more +2's... I would advice to dont make DUMB and RETARDED posts. Thanks.

Are you fucking retarded?

3 +1 = +2
i am saying that if you get a +2 and +1 and you compose +2 into the +1 you will get 20/80 viceversa you would get 10/80... read the post properly you fucking dipshit.. i never said anything about used 3 +1 stones to make +2 retard..

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Originally Posted by oxideman Well, I tell you, you are a HUGE DUMB... When you get a +1 wait to get 2 items +1 to make urs +2 then ull wait for 2 items +2 to make ur +2 into +3, +2 This way you make a item +4 with 9 +1 INSTEAD of your DUMB CONCLUSION of make a item +3 with a +2(3 +1's) and then 2 more +2's... I would advice to dont make DUMB and RETARDED posts. Thanks.

i found this more useful then anything you had to say besides already knowing that OBVIOUS fact right after t/q changed it. this is helpful to those of us who don't like making storage noobs and then losing everything they had when some t/q patch <cough cough 5100 antibot patch> comes out and throws them in bot jail or all the chars items are gone from thier warehouses ( like all my trojan noob weap and magic gear did with 5100). it really saves alot of storage issues and trying to file a case with t/q over something they lost is worthless with out screenies, and i hate screen'in everything as i change it with better stuff alot, not to mention remembering all that accnt info /p/w's and yeaaahhh...too much b.s. to begin with let alone mention here...sry for the rant about it.... trying to get t/q to resolve anything like fixing my item boxs (x-mas trees and wreath locations furniture ect ect rant rant) after 5100/5103 was fruitless/useless enough as it was. the point is..your not being helpuful...and opinions are like pie holes, everybody's got them, but if they don't provide useful info...don't open them. so thanks for wasting my time and creating more worthless things to strain our eyesight on...good job with that!

the easiest way to make f*ckwit understand is to ask him to take 2 +1 stones and compose them into a +1 ring or something.

when he realizes he just saved about 500k or so maybe he will shut up.

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Originally Posted by SomeNublet i am saying that if you get a +2 and +1 and you compose +2 into the +1 you will get 20/80

i tested this and u are right but this does NOT help at all and i`ll explain why :

once u compose a +2 into a +1 u will have a +2 with 20/80 that you say is a gain of 10 points well not really check this:


to make that +2 20/80 a +3 u need to add another 60 points that means another +2 = 40 points and u will have a +2 60/80

still its not a +3 so u need to add another 2 +1 in the +2 60/80 to make a +3 ( so far u used a +2 and a +1 in the beggining and another 2 +1 in the end to finish the +3 thats same as 2x +2 into a +2 = +3 )


its the same gain as if you use a 3x +1 10 points each = 30 points but composed in a +2 = 40 points

Cookies?

U can't Compose Stones

So far i dunno if TQ changed it but if u wana save up some time and in certain servers money then do this:

if u want to compose an [E]Ring +0 to +3 u only need 1 +3 Stone = +3 [E]Ring

To be honest here the only way u can save up is by u winning the Stones either way they are expensive in tha shopping mall, or some DUMBs has it expensive on their shop

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Originally Posted by oxideman Well, I tell you, you are a HUGE DUMB... When you get a +1 wait to get 2 items +1 to make urs +2 then ull wait for 2 items +2 to make ur +2 into +3, +2 This way you make a item +4 with 9 +1 INSTEAD of your DUMB CONCLUSION of make a item +3 with a +2(3 +1's) and then 2 more +2's... I would adviSe to dont make DUMB and RETARDED posts. Thanks.

Corrected :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by walidemad123 U can't Compose Stones

how closely are you related to einstein?

you are correct, you cannot compose stones. what we are talking about is using 2 +1 stones on, say, a +1 katana, and getting +40 progress from just +30.

The next time you have the urge to say something please spare us and withhold it.

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Originally Posted by gocata i tested this and u are right but this does NOT help at all and i`ll explain why : once u compose a +2 into a +1 u will have a +2 with 20/80 that you say is a gain of 10 points well not really check this: to make that +2 20/80 a +3 u need to add another 60 points that means another +2 = 40 points and u will have a +2 60/80 still its not a +3 so u need to add another 2 +1 in the +2 60/80 to make a +3 ( so far u used a +2 and a +1 in the beggining and another 2 +1 in the end to finish the +3 thats same as 2x +2 into a +2 = +3 ) its the same gain as if you use a 3x +1 10 points each = 30 points but composed in a +2 = 40 points

This math is sort of wrong, If you have a +2 (3+1's) and compose it into a +1 (making it 4+1's) you would have a +2 with 20/40 if you compose that with 2 more +2's (now totally 10+1's) you will have a +3 with 20/240 if you had used all +1's the whole time you would have used the original 3 +1's to get the +2 then 8 more +1's to get to +3, for a total of 11 +1's, but you would have to add another 2 +1's to get the same progress you got previously totaling 13 +1's

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Originally Posted by gocata i tested this and u are right but this does NOT help at all and i`ll explain why : once u compose a +2 into a +1 u will have a +2 with 20/80 that you say is a gain of 10 points well not really check this: to make that +2 20/80 a +3 u need to add another 60 points that means another +2 = 40 points and u will have a +2 60/80 still its not a +3 so u need to add another 2 +1 in the +2 60/80 to make a +3 ( so far u used a +2 and a +1 in the beggining and another 2 +1 in the end to finish the +3 thats same as 2x +2 into a +2 = +3 ) its the same gain as if you use a 3x +1 10 points each = 30 points but composed in a +2 = 40 points

yeah so basic conclusion, use 3 +1's to make a +2 and get 40 points instead of inserting single +1 items when composing