Conquer sue?

06/12/2013 06:13 LordGragen.#1
i was thinking a bit and i was wondering if any of you have the answer for this.

the main tq base is in china right? they control everything.
so i was wondering can tq sue you in us or the word must come from china?

i know tq have office in us where they work but i was wondering can they sue or the only the original tq can which is located in china
06/12/2013 06:42 pro4never#2
All the C&D's would be american under american copyright law generally.

Depending on the country you live in/host from you may or may not have to worry about them. Some countries completely ignore these laws where others take them more seriously.
06/12/2013 07:05 LordGragen.#3
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Originally Posted by pro4never View Post
All the C&D's would be american under american copyright law generally.

Depending on the country you live in/host from you may or may not have to worry about them. Some countries completely ignore these laws where others take them more seriously.
how about this,

what if the server owner is in us but the host is in other country?
will that make me a bit more secure?
06/12/2013 09:15 Korvacs#4
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how about this,

what if the server owner is in us but the host is in other country?
will that make me a bit more secure?
Nope, doesn't actually matter where in the world you are.
06/12/2013 12:45 Super Aids#5
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Nope, doesn't actually matter where in the world you are.
This ^ Since in the end it's a question about money.
06/12/2013 16:44 LordGragen.#6
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I wouldn't worry as long as you aren't profiting from it, and nothing is copyrighted, and since the client it's self is distributed freely and you haven't stolen a server if you design it yourself, it's completely border line legal, give or take a few circumstances.
but if you design that is illegal, lets say if you edit the client.
06/12/2013 16:55 Super Aids#7
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I wouldn't worry as long as you aren't profiting from it, and nothing is copyrighted, and since the client it's self is distributed freely and you haven't stolen a server if you design it yourself, it's completely border line legal, give or take a few circumstances.
Redistributing their client is illegal. You have to either distribute no client or be up to date to actually make everything completely legal.
06/12/2013 16:59 LordGragen.#8
btw some say even if they sue they will lose, but how? its there client how they will lose?
06/12/2013 18:15 Spirited#9
NetDragon Websoft has an office in Diamond Bar, CA, USA. That's where Conquer Online's servers are. The business is an official USA business, and thus they have not only universal rights rights to their material, but American registered copyrights. How they sue you depends on the case. If you're using a TQ Binary and their client, it could be quite the threat. If you're just using their client, they have the right to request that you stop from doing so. All of the above mentioned by other members are correct. It's not "how" they sue you, but for what reasons.
06/12/2013 18:27 LordGragen.#10
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NetDragon Websoft has an office in Diamond Bar, CA, USA. That's where Conquer Online's servers are. The business is an official USA business, and thus they have not only universal rights rights to their material, but American registered copyrights. How they sue you depends on the case. If you're using a TQ Binary and their client, it could be quite the threat. If you're just using their client, they have the right to request that you stop from doing so. All of the above mentioned by other members are correct. It's not "how" they sue you, but for what reasons.
ohhh i see, thank you that explained allot.
06/13/2013 01:17 pro4never#11
Actually sharing the official client at all is technically illegal.

Distributing ANY files from the client = illegal and can get you in trouble. The only legal way of handling it is tell players to download the client from the official tq servers and you just release a loader so players can connect to your server without distributing any of tq's files (modified or not)
06/13/2013 01:35 LordGragen.#12
i think the only resion they don't bother suing coz they know they will lose more money buy trying to sue someone then they will get.
06/13/2013 01:40 pro4never#13
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i think the only resion they don't bother suing coz they know they will lose more money buy trying to sue someone then they will get.
Generally speaking they are trying to scare you into shutting down your server. They start with (many) C&D's to both you and your server host to try to bully them into shutting down. It VERY rarely goes beyond that (to the point I'd never even heard about it until this thread) but then they would advance it towards lawsuits.

Even at lawsuit stage they are just forcing you legally to either stop the server or bankrupt yourself trying to fight the charges (both as a project and as a person because it can cost tens of thousands of dollars even for a fairly small case to defend yourself) which as a result shuts it down nice and quick.
06/13/2013 01:41 CptSky#14
Big servers closed after receiving C&D, so before being sued. TQ wont send C&D to small servers. It's just useless for them to do so.
06/13/2013 01:54 LordGragen.#15
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Big servers closed after receiving C&D, so before being sued. TQ wont send C&D to small servers. It's just useless for them to do so.
idk about that,

Love2Hate is prty big server + been on long time + not even c#
i wonder if they ever got C&D