About bots(Cog,Coai,Chrome)

Hey guys , I start to be sick seeing that I am loosing days in Cogen cause of one day bans ( which were occured just for some users according to Dean and his statics based on online activiti :) )

Anyway I want to ask some questions about the bots in the market (COAI , CHROME) , just questions cause I wont hear there blamings and trollings.

1)How many days takes for the developer the most to fix the problems caused by the patches made by TQ

2)How many accounts you can login from 1 IP ( I wont use a proxy or vpn/vps so this question is essential )

3)If the developer can't fix the problems in 1-2 days they usually give back the lost days?

4) Your opinion about the bot you use.( no trolling about the others)
I am clearly want to buy a new bot subscription when my cog ends cause this bot seems to die, ( less support than ever, deleting threads about one day bans and then tell that there was just some users who get... anoying)

Opinion on conquer chrome.


1) Usually under a day. Often times within hours things are fixed for restrictions or new patches

2) Unlimited. That being said TQ tends to ban/restrict anyone who connects from the same IP with more than 2-3 accounts. This is a universal rule that will apply to ALL bots (may be why you're getting restricted in CoG)

3) I've never heard of that happening. The longest I've heard of them being down was like 48 hours for an update but I was never all that active with the bot so others may know better

4) Chrome is simple to use, very highly featured and has fantastic support.



CoAI is also very good but I just found it rather annoying to get started with when I tested it out although the support and features are very similar between the two bots.

COG has always been the rather... 'special' bot that always takes forever to get fixed and even then barely works so no matter which you choose, it will be a great improvement for you once you adjust to the new bot.

Chrome seems pretty good. Support is not good though, don't know what pro4never has smoked :) Once you learn how to use it though, it's pretty solid. There will be restricts though, but thats the same with all bots.

On another, though still related topic: if you dont use proxy or vpn/vps, you might as well forget about botting, it won't even be worth the effort.

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Originally Posted by pro4never Opinion on conquer chrome. 1) Usually under a day. Often times within hours things are fixed for restrictions or new patches 2) Unlimited. That being said TQ tends to ban/restrict anyone who connects from the same IP with more than 2-3 accounts. This is a universal rule that will apply to ALL bots (may be why you're getting restricted in CoG) 3) I've never heard of that happening. The longest I've heard of them being down was like 48 hours for an update but I was never all that active with the bot so others may know better 4) Chrome is simple to use, very highly featured and has fantastic support. CoAI is also very good but I just found it rather annoying to get started with when I tested it out although the support and features are very similar between the two bots. COG has always been the rather... 'special' bot that always takes forever to get fixed and even then barely works so no matter which you choose, it will be a great improvement for you once you adjust to the new bot.

The problem is not with many accounts logged in the same time. Cause I tried to bot on a server where one of my bot mates bot .. he never get 1 day bans and I am getting.

The biggest problem is that from my 31 days of subscription 18 are gone and I am still trying to make some level 120 hunters. Cause they usually get restricted ( like 1 of 3 hunters get restricted ) then banned or jailed after a day or two. Dean usually compensate but now it seems he start to lose the control over the bot and hiding behind the rule " The forum activity is normal so there are no restrictions " which make me to think twice before I re-buy that shit.

Its friendly the GUI , easy to use , no bigger problems but the support on it started to die.

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Originally Posted by coocahceppie Chrome seems pretty good. Support is not good though, don't know what pro4never has smoked :) Once you learn how to use it though, it's pretty solid. There will be restricts though, but thats the same with all bots. On another, though still related topic: if you dont use proxy or vpn/vps, you might as well forget about botting, it won't even be worth the effort.

What's wrong with their support?

They have everything you'd want to know about set up on the forum. If you get an error not covered in their guides an FAQ threads then there's always dozens of people in their chat that will answer it nearly instantly.


What possible complaint could you have about their support?


That being said... their forum is a bitch to navigate through sometimes.

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Originally Posted by pro4never What's wrong with their support? They have everything you'd want to know about set up on the forum. If you get an error not covered in their guides an FAQ threads then there's always dozens of people in their chat that will answer it nearly instantly. What possible complaint could you have about their support? That being said... their forum is a bitch to navigate through sometimes.

Some problems with their support which they try to hide:
-Slow fixing of restriction regarding things( took over 5 days to fix the restrictions , then they realized that some of the users still get, Dean solved that in another 5 days, he compensated the first 5 days then the next fine 5, me and some users told that we still get restrictions, prove with screenshots , and he told us that there are no restrictions according to the activity on the forum, with this thing some of the users lost over 8-10 days.)
Me and some other users still getting restrictions even if we bot from fresh instaled OS, client,bot , On servers where other users not getting.
- The posts regarding 1 day bans are usually deleted, also the replays to those posts to make the users think that there are just them.( Happens not once.)

In the chat are ( most of them how I see are just for apparence , the most I've talked in the same time was 10 or 15)

Thats the main reason why I am searching for another bot.( And trust me not just me)

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Originally Posted by pro4never What's wrong with their support? They have everything you'd want to know about set up on the forum. If you get an error not covered in their guides an FAQ threads then there's always dozens of people in their chat that will answer it nearly instantly. What possible complaint could you have about their support? That being said... their forum is a bitch to navigate through sometimes.

As soon as a person can't do a thing for them self then the higher-ups are to blame.

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Originally Posted by demon17 Some problems with their support which they try to hide: -Slow fixing of restriction regarding things( took over 5 days to fix the restrictions , then they realized that some of the users still get, Dean solved that in another 5 days, he compensated the first 5 days then the next fine 5, me and some users told that we still get restrictions, prove with screenshots , and he told us that there are no restrictions according to the activity on the forum, with this thing some of the users lost over 8-10 days.) Me and some other users still getting restrictions even if we bot from fresh instaled OS, client,bot , On servers where other users not getting. - The posts regarding 1 day bans are usually deleted, also the replays to those posts to make the users think that there are just them.( Happens not once.) In the chat are ( most of them how I see are just for apparence , the most I've talked in the same time was 10 or 15) Thats the main reason why I am searching for another bot.( And trust me not just me)

I'm talking about Chrome.

We all know CoG is a complete fucking joke of a bot.

Yeah p4n i just saw ... sorry.
As I heard the Chrome atm is the best, faster fixed bot.

Aids, you think you are smart . I am botting for like 4 years and till now never had such a problem
I assume the risk of getting banned cause someone report me , or a GM come and check the accounts. But start to be anoying that the tool(program) which I use to bot is weak against their restrictions.

If you just want to use a handful of characters then it's pretty hard to make it worth buying the bot in the first place.

As soon as you go over 2-3 characters per IP you're pretty much saying to TQ "i'm botting, please restrict or ban all of my characters who have ever used this IP address"

Proxies allow you to exponentially increase your profits while actually improving your overall safety for very little cost.

It took me a day or two of research to find a proxy site that wasn't restricted but 4 proxies for 5 dollars all of which worked perfectly meant I could actually make botting worth it.

i need a bot/proxy that can be like old good "SV"
so i have a question what if am bot 2 hunters 1 seller
i don't need more than that so TQ can detect me?
the hunters will play afk like SV
and i have 4 computers at my home i can use one each of them the same subscription
or do i need buy 1 bot x4 ?
and i can make a nice profit without proxy..... how the F**K TQ know it is a home and no coffee Internet ?

SV was always a shit bot. It was very slow. All of the commercial bots simply teleport everywhere and are designed to get you the maximum profit per hour. They are designed with the expectation your characters will be banned after a day or two.

The idea is you bot them very very heavily (say, 48 hours in a row) then trade through alternate ip's or other methods to get your goods onto a market character without tq tracking it and then simply delete the character/account and make new ones.

Chrome works one one computer per license. There is an option to link a second computer (a vps is the idea) but I've not used it before.


If you want to earn a good profit you generally run 10+ bots farming 24/7 across various maps (and sometimes various servers). With 10 bots I'd say you could probably farm close to 1 billion gold per month pretty easily (which on most servers translates into 40-50 db).

If you want to earn more you just expand the number of proxies you use and the time involved with marketing your goods and your profit goes way up. Plenty of people using the bot earn hundreds of DB's per month but you need to keep in mind that is a VERY large time investment as well as quite a lot of money paid for vps, many private proxies and the bot itself.

The bot is the cheap and easy part. What you do with it is where it gets complicated.

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Originally Posted by pro4never SV was always a shit bot. It was very slow. All of the commercial bots simply teleport everywhere and are designed to get you the maximum profit per hour. They are designed with the expectation your characters will be banned after a day or two. The idea is you bot them very very heavily (say, 48 hours in a row) then trade through alternate ip's or other methods to get your goods onto a market character without tq tracking it and then simply delete the character/account and make new ones. Chrome works one one computer per license. There is an option to link a second computer (a vps is the idea) but I've not used it before. If you want to earn a good profit you generally run 10+ bots farming 24/7 across various maps (and sometimes various servers). With 10 bots I'd say you could probably farm close to 1 billion gold per month pretty easily (which on most servers translates into 40-50 db). If you want to earn more you just expand the number of proxies you use and the time involved with marketing your goods and your profit goes way up. Plenty of people using the bot earn hundreds of DB's per month but you need to keep in mind that is a VERY large time investment as well as quite a lot of money paid for vps, many private proxies and the bot itself. The bot is the cheap and easy part. What you do with it is where it gets complicated.

Thanks,but i have some questions:
can u explain a little bit more in detail?
should i buy 1 VPS and many private proxies to keep my main accs safe and earn lots of money?
should i run the bot on the vps along with the proxies (which also work on the VPS(not at my home))?
can u plz tell me some good safe (and as cheap as possible) proxy websites?
thanks again :)

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Originally Posted by oblesk1 Thanks,but i have some questions: can u explain a little bit more in detail? should i buy 1 VPS and many private proxies to keep my main accs safe and earn lots of money? should i run the bot on the vps along with the proxies (which also work on the VPS(not at my home))? can u plz tell me some good safe (and as cheap as possible) proxy websites? thanks again :)

No one will tell you proxy websites to use because if we use the same website, we both get banned.


You have to do the research yourself. It took me about 2 days to find a working website and it worked just fine for me (about 1.50 per proxy/month)



I'm not all that experienced with mass botting in current conquer but if you want to bot in a serious fashion you're best off running the following setup, as far as trader security.. well that's up to you really.


#1: VPS to run the bot off of. This ensures you have enough bandwidth for large scale botting as well as not worrying about your own computer shutting down or losing connection


#2: Many private working proxies to bot with.



At that stage I'd suggest assigning proxies into groups (preferably from multiple trusted hosts) and using those groups for various tasks.

EG: group 1 = disposable hunters, no trading to any characters and they simply store up all their findings. Dump them safely to a different middle man proxy group every 24-48 hours.


Once you have all your stuff on middleman group (say group 2) you can worry about safely transfering it to either market group (group 3 as example) or to your home IP. To transfer safely you can do semi convincing market prices, pking for loot or other methods. Not sure exactly tq's security right now but I know it's improved greatly.

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Originally Posted by pro4never No one will tell you proxy websites to use because if we use the same website, we both get banned. You have to do the research yourself. It took me about 2 days to find a working website and it worked just fine for me (about 1.50 per proxy/month) I'm not all that experienced with mass botting in current conquer but if you want to bot in a serious fashion you're best off running the following setup, as far as trader security.. well that's up to you really. #1: VPS to run the bot off of. This ensures you have enough bandwidth for large scale botting as well as not worrying about your own computer shutting down or losing connection #2: Many private working proxies to bot with. At that stage I'd suggest assigning proxies into groups (preferably from multiple trusted hosts) and using those groups for various tasks. EG: group 1 = disposable hunters, no trading to any characters and they simply store up all their findings. Dump them safely to a different middle man proxy group every 24-48 hours. Once you have all your stuff on middleman group (say group 2) you can worry about safely transfering it to either market group (group 3 as example) or to your home IP. To transfer safely you can do semi convincing market prices, pking for loot or other methods. Not sure exactly tq's security right now but I know it's improved greatly.

thanks ^^