[Help]SRP6

04/27/2013 18:34 tariqx111#1
Hi epvp,
i need some help in new tq auth method they use srp6
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client send packet 1542 with : server, username,unknown (byte array length:48)
// unknown is unknown i dont think its A cause A length is 32 not 48
server send packet 1213 with: 2 byte array (every bytearray has 32 byte)
// I think its B and Salt
client send packet 1214 with : 2 byte array (first one is 32 byte second is 20 byte)
//I think its M and unknown ^_^

the question what client send's in 1542 and 1214 ?

Thanks.

04/29/2013 04:44 tariqx111#2
can some one help me ?
04/29/2013 07:21 Spirited#3
I think it's only fair to state that you plan on using this for a clientless bot. I don't think developers want more clientless bots. You really have no reason what-so-ever to create one since no private servers use the algorithm (except for maybe 1 other than mine). The real game has working bots, and you'd need to use theirs to avoid the anti-bot system they have in place anyways. I wouldn't expect anyone to help. There are only a handful of people who have experience implementing the cipher algorithm anyways. Of those people, less than four have the client implementation required for the clientless bot. I would start another project and give up on this if I were you.
04/29/2013 08:00 tariqx111#4
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Originally Posted by Fаng View Post
I think it's only fair to state that you plan on using this for a clientless bot. I don't think developers want more clientless bots. You really have no reason what-so-ever to create one since no private servers use the algorithm (except for maybe 1 other than mine). The real game has working bots, and you'd need to use theirs to avoid the anti-bot system they have in place anyways. I wouldn't expect anyone to help. There are only a handful of people who have experience implementing the cipher algorithm anyways. Of those people, less than four have the client implementation required for the clientless bot. I would start another project and give up on this if I were you.

Any ways i can help my self with my self , if no one want to help me :D.
04/29/2013 10:53 { Angelius }#5
It takes time and effort to reverse such a system so you can't expect people to just hand you the answer... And lets face it you are starting from scratch here, its not like you are looking for the final piece of the puzzle or something or i wold have helped you myself.

This community is dead and every man for himself so don't expect a lot of help.

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Originally Posted by Fаng View Post
I think it's only fair to state that you plan on using this for a clientless bot. I don't think developers want more clientless bots. You really have no reason what-so-ever to create one since no private servers use the algorithm (except for maybe 1 other than mine). The real game has working bots, and you'd need to use theirs to avoid the anti-bot system they have in place anyways. I wouldn't expect anyone to help. There are only a handful of people who have experience implementing the cipher algorithm anyways. Of those people, less than four have the client implementation required for the clientless bot. I would start another project and give up on this if I were you.
How encouraging you are..

I don't think developers want more clientless bots

You don't speak for developers so i take it you are talking about the commercial clientless bots owners which no one cares about since such threads targets people who are willing to HELP & SHARE not the 10 bucks a month worshipers aka commercial clientless bots owners that hardly makes 310 bucks a month.


You really have no reason what-so-ever to create one since no private servers use the algorithm (except for maybe 1 other than mine)

Now how is it your business to decide for him? he wants to make a clientless bot for realco and that's his business.. people don't just come up with projects for no reason.


The real game has working bots, and you'd need to use theirs to avoid the anti-bot system they have in place anyways.

Why in the world wold he ask for help if he wants to use a public bot? to avoid the anti-bot system? isn't that what he is trying to do on his own no matter what system it was?


I would start another project and give up on this if I were you.

Is that the best you could come up with? Give up just because a handful of people on a dead forum refused to help him.
04/29/2013 12:47 donn#6
There's a single problem: here "help" and "leech" are the same thing. So no wonder help is not given anymore.
04/29/2013 17:08 tariqx111#7
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There's a single problem: here "help" and "leech" are the same thing. So no wonder help is not given anymore.
oh this name.

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Originally Posted by { Angelius } View Post
It takes time and effort to reverse such a system so you can't expect people to just hand you the answer... And lets face it you are starting from scratch here, its not like you are looking for the final piece of the puzzle or something or i wold have helped you myself.

This community is dead and every man for himself so don't expect a lot of help.

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How encouraging you are..

I don't think developers want more clientless bots

You don't speak for developers so i take it you are talking about the commercial clientless bots owners which no one cares about since such threads targets people who are willing to HELP & SHARE not the 10 bucks a month worshipers aka commercial clientless bots owners that hardly makes 310 bucks a month.


You really have no reason what-so-ever to create one since no private servers use the algorithm (except for maybe 1 other than mine)

Now how is it your business to decide for him? he wants to make a clientless bot for realco and that's his business.. people don't just come up with projects for no reason.


The real game has working bots, and you'd need to use theirs to avoid the anti-bot system they have in place anyways.

Why in the world wold he ask for help if he wants to use a public bot? to avoid the anti-bot system? isn't that what he is trying to do on his own no matter what system it was?


I would start another project and give up on this if I were you.

Is that the best you could come up with? Give up just because a handful of people on a dead forum refused to help him.
Adel you are the best one in this forum.
04/29/2013 18:48 Spirited#8
Angelius, I'm just being realistic. The truth of the matter is, nobody will ever help him with cracking the anti-bot system that TQ has implemented. The only people with the implementation don't want to open the market for open source bot development. Giving people false hope is a lot worse than being harsh.

I'm looking over the private messages he sent me, and I'm now confused on what he's talking about. At first, it sounded like he wanted to make a clientless bot for the real game. I just noticed that he's talking about a "WoW C# client". I have absolutely no idea what that's supposed to mean because the code he sent me looks like it's from a C# bot for Conquer using parts from Impulse's source. Tariqx111, what exactly is your aim?
04/29/2013 18:56 tariqx111#9
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Originally Posted by Fаng View Post
Angelius, I'm just being realistic. The truth of the matter is, nobody will ever help him with cracking the anti-bot system that TQ has implemented. The only people with the implementation don't want to open the market for open source bot development. Giving people false hope is a lot worse than being harsh.

I'm looking over the private messages he sent me, and I'm now confused on what he's talking about. At first, it sounded like he wanted to make a clientless bot for the real game. I just noticed that he's talking about a "WoW C# client". I have absolutely no idea what that's supposed to mean because the code he sent me looks like it's from a C# bot for Conquer using parts from Impulse's source. Tariqx111, what exactly is your aim?
Impluse source ??, WoW is also use SRP6, im trying to make the WoW srp6 works in conquer one.
Learning form sources, Also my bot is'nt open source
#request Close

This thread is'nt for discussion.
04/29/2013 19:08 Dr.unreal#10
Tariq ... soo let me get this straight . You re trying to take implementation from one bot and use it for second bot from which neighter of them you understand ... Correct ? *pat pat* good copy cat .
04/29/2013 19:16 tariqx111#11
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Originally Posted by Dr.unreal View Post
Tariq ... soo let me get this straight . You re trying to take implementation from one bot and use it for second bot from which neighter of them you understand ... Correct ? *pat pat* good copy cat .
No
They are no public source code of conquer srp6 implementation,
im converting WoW to Conquer , understand ?
04/29/2013 20:38 Dr.unreal#12
I do understand . You re still using public implementation from some old wow bot and try to base your solution on it . While learning from sources is plausible unless you understand what are you doing its simply a waste of time . IF you understood what the hell re you doing you wouldnt ask here so ... i rest my case.
04/30/2013 02:16 Spirited#13
Don't get my intentions wrong, although I want nothing to do with a new bot, I am trying to give you accurate advice. You won't be able to make a clientless bot even if you get past the password encryption. TQ has a system implemented, an entire server that you would have to reverse and create somehow. They have a lot of bruteforce attack protection now, so you won't be able to do it. It's over - end of the line. I'm suggesting that you don't spend any more time on this not to discourage you, but so you can focus your efforts on more important projects / things you could be doing. Even if I wanted to make a clientless bot, I wouldn't be able to. You can't do it because the information is just not available.
04/30/2013 03:14 tariqx111#14
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Originally Posted by Fаng View Post
Don't get my intentions wrong, although I want nothing to do with a new bot, I am trying to give you accurate advice. You won't be able to make a clientless bot even if you get past the password encryption. TQ has a system implemented, an entire server that you would have to reverse and create somehow. They have a lot of bruteforce attack protection now, so you won't be able to do it. It's over - end of the line. I'm suggesting that you don't spend any more time on this not to discourage you, but so you can focus your efforts on more important projects / things you could be doing. Even if I wanted to make a clientless bot, I wouldn't be able to. You can't do it because the information is just not available.
But still not impossible, I already said to you they are an anti of anti
04/30/2013 05:11 Spirited#15
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But still not impossible, I already said to you they are an anti of anti
I'm trying to not be harsh to you, but your ignorance and refusal to quit is making that very hard. It is near impossible. Like so near impossible that you need to cut it out and get your act together. Cryptography was made to keep people out. Exchange cryptographies were made to keep people out even more. Bruteforce attack protection makes it near impossible to figure out. Their algorithm is not public, it's a custom exchange using custom algorithms on the server. In the chance that you figure out those server algorithms through their bruteforce attack protection, it would take years to figure out, given that you're an absolute genius. The only reason bots like ConquerAI have it is because they got the algorithms before the bruteforce attack protection went up. I tried telling you that in a friendly manor, but you cannot succeed at this project. Do you understand?