Sorcerer build

02/22/2013 01:14 Big_groda#1
Hello everyone.

Im a sorcerer that been playing this game Very long. it's just that the last months i been starting to lagg really hard.

So i wonder what i should try to get.

Atm i got abs glove and boots i can make full.

Full asthal build or full Scion build
I already know what they do and some peoples can think that im stupid if i go for scion. But i don't care

So i wonder what does everyone here prefer asthal or scion?
and why do you prefer it instead off the other?
02/22/2013 01:22 Haribomatix#2
what you want more tank (because Ashtal Hp) or more dmg dealer ?

i think maybe a mixture of both

but i am not sure because i dont play sorc
02/22/2013 02:02 Big_groda#3
To be honest i don't really know what i want to go. Becaus off that i want some info.

Atm im lvl 103 and got 9500hp selfbuffed. I can kill everything in my lvl atm except knight.
I don't tank good becaus my gear isn't the best but i can survive if i don't get frese lagg.

so don't know if i should max asthal and use large rec or try scion and try kill enemy before they kill me. If im up against archer's im dead anyway. but against other's i have a chance atleast.
02/22/2013 05:59 Mrn1c3guy#4
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Originally Posted by Big_groda View Post
To be honest i don't really know what i want to go. Becaus off that i want some info.

Atm im lvl 103 and got 9500hp selfbuffed. I can kill everything in my lvl atm except knight.
I don't tank good becaus my gear isn't the best but i can survive if i don't get frese lagg.

so don't know if i should max asthal and use large rec or try scion and try kill enemy before they kill me. If im up against archer's im dead anyway. but against other's i have a chance atleast.
if you more 1 vs 1 than siege etc i would say FULL dmg could be nice , means scion in amor but in rings - helmet intelligence (but maybe first test 1 inteligence stone lv6) i play mage not sorc but maby if you u max the dmg & cooldown you can kill knight with hh skill?
well with my mage i was abel to kill some nub knight who using perma goodlike but i not used anti just hh skill and they died so you maby can make it too
and for def in 1 vs 1 you have the halt you know what i mean ?
02/22/2013 09:09 Zoonk#5
Ashtals. Ofc ashtals. U gain pretty coold mg and what's important a looot of hp. Its easier to fight on sieges or other massive pvps. With scions u hit damn hard, yes, but u die fast as well. Imo, anshtals > scions.
02/22/2013 09:27 Voldonx#6
Put any scion sorc up against an ashtal sorc. See what happens..
02/22/2013 13:24 dem0lition#7
Ashtal sorc got pretty nice dmg + a lot of hp which is much more effective in pvp than just some dmg more. The point is alone sorc can't kill GOOD tankers like knight or zerk/summoner with gt stuff etc bcz of it's bugged HH def.
02/22/2013 14:01 Big_groda#8
Hehe Thanks everyone. I go for asthals.
Atm i got a HH wand lvl 90 whit scions.

So what is best the extra stats on a HH lvl 90 wand whit extra elem dmg full asthal
or a lv 92 wand whit learned +1 full asthal?

becaus i have to get lvl 120. does the 16% dodge have any effect on the lvl 113+ mobs?
or it's only good in pvp againts Melee?
02/22/2013 14:26 Krython#9
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Hehe Thanks everyone. I go for asthals.
Atm i got a HH wand lvl 90 whit scions.

So what is best the extra stats on a HH lvl 90 wand whit extra elem dmg full asthal
or a lv 92 wand whit learned +1 full asthal?

becaus i have to get lvl 120. does the 16% dodge have any effect on the lvl 113+ mobs?
or it's only good in pvp againts Melee?
In pvp vs casters use +1 Wand Ashtaled and vs critters use HH wand ashtaled because of the dodge/evade :) And now since sorc can't requiem mobs, I suggest HH wand for lvling too, because of more ele dmg and heroic dmg :p
02/22/2013 15:43 Harozor#10
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In pvp vs casters use +1 Wand Ashtaled and vs critters use HH wand ashtaled because of the dodge/evade :) And now since sorc can't requiem mobs, I suggest HH wand for lvling too, because of more ele dmg and heroic dmg :p
Seriously OMG Wz are such stupid as hell....
If they rly changed that O_o
02/22/2013 16:39 benzo11#11
full ashtal. Why?
-dmg
-defense and other stats are better...
-u dont die in 2-3 shots

if u take scion stone... u only get ele dmg which is i think same thing like 1 ashtal (1 ashtal is 3 -4 dmg i think, and scion stone +5 ele attack.)
02/22/2013 16:56 dem0lition#12
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Seriously OMG Wz are such stupid as hell....
If they rly changed that O_o
Well yeah Requiem doesn't work on mobs since rebalance, but you can halt/requiem ppl without getting skulled. Where is the logic? Ah and forgot about the most important thing - Healing - selfheal + pt heal which can't be used in fight mode = wasted skillpoints into another skill that is for nothing like skeletors for example.


About HH wand. You don't need it to reach 80% dodge against critters. Just get ABS boots, and on combi you got 78% if I'm right. With Hestia neck I got 80%+ dodge so I use my 92 wand with skill up all the time. With Deadman Awaken maxed/80%+ resistance and some block it works verry well against critters :)
02/22/2013 17:43 Krython#13
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Well yeah Requiem doesn't work on mobs since rebalance, but you can halt/requiem ppl without getting skulled. Where is the logic? Ah and forgot about the most important thing - Healing - selfheal + pt heal which can't be used in fight mode = wasted skillpoints into another skill that is for nothing like skeletors for example.


About HH wand. You don't need it to reach 80% dodge against critters. Just get ABS boots, and on combi you got 78% if I'm right. With Hestia neck I got 80%+ dodge so I use my 92 wand with skill up all the time. With Deadman Awaken maxed/80%+ resistance and some block it works verry well against critters :)
Bro u need max evade u can get, because of shrine greaves ( ignore dodge ) :)
On my sorc I have 90% dodge and it works good :p
02/22/2013 18:43 dem0lition#14
Yeah, but not everyone got shrine stuff and it's pointless to get few armors/few weapons/few rings set and change them all the time during the fights...
02/22/2013 18:44 Voldonx#15
On my sorc I don't give a sht about evade and it seems to be working out quite nicely.


92 wand brah, trust me. Or test your own stuff, why care about other people's opinions :<