[Request] Tutor on "hacking" (at least look at the request)

02/07/2013 22:59 brad15#1
So I've been scouring the forums for Pakes, Bypasses, and some form of Hacking tool, and I keep finding a re-occuring theme; I can't just get something spoon-fed to me on a silver platter. What I am asking for is someone to guide me, give me a good place to start, to be a tutor for me so I can figure these things out on my own sooner or later, and then maybe even contribute. Any reponses would be much appreciated, but please, no flaming. At least I'm not asking for someone to send me all the DLLs and whatnot.
02/08/2013 03:33 Blade3575#2
Do you know how to make a dll? Do you know how to proxy a dll (not completely needed since you can inject)? Can you code at all yourself? Do you know how to edit memory?

If you answered yes to all those questions, you're well on your way. If not, I would learn the basics of it all first. If you know how to do it all then I would get Abyss which will allow you to edit the memory for the Client and allow you to test edits with the Themida bypass.

This should get you started.
02/08/2013 05:25 brad15#3
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Do you know how to make a dll? Do you know how to proxy a dll (not completely needed since you can inject)? Can you code at all yourself? Do you know how to edit memory?
Like I said, This is a joint effort, MY friend is good with Coding and can make a DLL, and I'm pretty good with Proxies and memory modifications. I've been away from the modding scene for a while now, but i did download the Abyss files, and got that to work alright. We just aren't sure where to go from here.

Also, If you'd rather just message me, rather then tell the whole world, that's cool with me.
02/08/2013 06:58 Blade3575#4
What exactly is it you want to know?
02/08/2013 07:26 tliu0c#5
You should feel lucky that the crashshield and TMD bypass have already been done for u. Now load up the game in olly and IDA and do your work. But really you should be content with what abyss has to offer.

lol why is Blade3575 so helpful sometimes. It amazes me. So much contrast between some other active members.
02/08/2013 08:33 Ayamin#6
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You should feel lucky that the crashshield and TMD bypass have already been done for u. Now load up the game in olly and IDA and do your work. But really you should be content with what abyss has to offer.

lol why is Blade3575 so helpful sometimes. It amazes me. So much contrast between some other active members.
Blade is awesome c:

tliu have you gotten a sendhook/recvhook working?
02/08/2013 08:37 Blade3575#7
People that want to help themselves are people that want to learn. I don't mind helping people that want to learn and not have things handed to them.

I wish I had send/receive hooks working xD..
02/08/2013 14:01 tliu0c#8
:( I didn't meet many nice people when I was a noob. Had to figure out everything by myself.

Yea I have send and recv working.
Blade you should be able to fix it as well given your ablity to make abyss. I donno how you bypassed TMD integrity check but it appeared that you bypassed it from the very beginning and no memeory checksum is performed when changing map. Pretty neat. Much better than the method i discovered last summer. Saved me some time from dealing with that~
But pake isn't nearly as useful as before anymore. Seems to me that nexon has patched 99% of the good stuff. I've pretty much given up on finding packets~
02/08/2013 18:34 Epvp_God#9
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:( I didn't meet many nice people when I was a noob. Had to figure out everything by myself.

Yea I have send and recv working.
Blade you should be able to fix it as well given your ablity to make abyss. I donno how you bypassed TMD integrity check but it appeared that you bypassed it from the very beginning and no memeory checksum is performed when changing map. Pretty neat. Much better than the method i discovered last summer. Saved me some time from dealing with that~
But pake isn't nearly as useful as before anymore. Seems to me that nexon has patched 99% of the good stuff. I've pretty much given up on finding packets~
To thread starter guy, I can provide an unpacked client for study.

Send and recv is easy. WS2_send ~~~ find it, update pakecore. I also noticed some of the jap pakes floating around have a functional send incorporated into them but, the hook gets disrupted later down the many lines of code.
02/08/2013 21:55 brad15#10
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To thread starter guy, I can provide an unpacked client for study.
That would be much appreciated. Im pretty sure i have a skype posted to my account, but yeah, Thanks!

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People that want to help themselves are people that want to learn. I don't mind helping people that want to learn and not have things handed to them.
I was worried i was going to get flamed for asking to be taught lol, hence the original post making it as clear of a request as i could. As much as I would LOVE to have it all handed to me, I would much rather learn to build these things myself, if not only for the self satisfaction, but for the practicality as well. being a Script-Kitty only gets you so far haha.
Besides, I want to be able to contribute, especially after all of the patches and mods I've downloaded from here over the past few years. I figure it's high time i give back
02/09/2013 18:59 Epvp_God#11
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I was worried i was going to get flamed for asking to be taught lol, hence the original post making it as clear of a request as i could. As much as I would LOVE to have it all handed to me, I would much rather learn to build these things myself, if not only for the self satisfaction, but for the practicality as well. being a Script-Kitty only gets you so far haha.
Besides, I want to be able to contribute, especially after all of the patches and mods I've downloaded from here over the past few years. I figure it's high time i give back

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02/09/2013 22:11 Blade3575#12
That's one reason I can't get pake working. Never learned to reverse thoroughly. I have heard Lena's tutorials are a great place to start, I just don't have much patience.
02/09/2013 23:47 brad15#13
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Script kiddy indeed. Go through these tutorials to enhance your perspective of "hacking¿". [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]
yeah, discovered and downloaded this whole thing yesterday, Lol, great timing.
02/10/2013 05:06 Epvp_God#14
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That's one reason I can't get pake working. Never learned to reverse thoroughly. I have heard Lena's tutorials are a great place to start, I just don't have much patience.
Yeah, it's important that you learn how to use all the features that olly has to offer. That way, when it comes to reversing programs like Mabi, you wont have to rely on other people to give you the addresses that is needed to make a Themida/VMProtect bypass.

Personally, I been taking on the C++ tuts from AntiRTFM in order to break free of the whole constant patching of pake and making a crude packet editor that allow me to manually input send and recv hook addresses.

I havn't been on mabi in a since that funky zombie event where you get high rank skills. I managed to warp out and was able to keep the items, buffs and, skills but my char stopped saving. ;) Bitter Sweet. I put so much time into that char.
02/10/2013 08:20 Blade3575#15
I'm better at C/C++ than reversing, but I don't have to rely on other people to find addresses. I can search and debug at a basic level. Figuring out where and how pake actually patches is beyond me at this point, though. I keep freezing when I try to go to certain parts so I know I'm missing some kind of anti-detection, but that's besides the point.