[discussion] hard leveling vs easy leveling vs pvp

02/03/2013 22:52 go for it#1

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im pretty confused , i duno what people want
i thought people like hard servers where you can't max in couple of hrs
so i've made real low rates for items , exp , prof , spell

i thought people like a classy made from starch website
so i've studied php and create a reg. page and did the rest with web builder

i thought people like quests exist in tq
so i've made bluemouse,bomb,discity,meteortear,secondreb,moonbo x,labs,greattomatoday,plaplaplaplaplaplapla

i thought people like quests as it is and not a map with npc and last person win calling it elitepk/teampk/skillpk/plaplaplaplapla

i thought people cares about monsters spawns and npcs dialogs
so i've coded them all from the starch

i thought people care about new items , so i've implemented +120 item

i thought people cares about full house system and full mining system

but i was so f wrong at everything , no one joined the server , almost 20 joined and left in the same day after asking for cps and insulting me

what's the hell wrong with this world ?
an egy (no offence im egy too) , get edited impulse source , a stolen website , create [GM]MOHAMED[PM] , change the phone number and paypal account at donation page , setup the server on 9.99$ vps , and get +500 player and 1.8k donations in 1 month ?
what's the fuck wrong with this world ?

should i increase the rate ? just host a public source from any egy forum ? remove everything and on born you get directly to jail with all gears and all spells to pvp straight away and all people fight on donations? is that what people like ?

what do you think ? should i wait ? what people like ? and why such servers getting players with fake ads and such stupid rates and stupid system where monsters drops 1kk and dragon souls are 500kkk ?

forgive me but im super pissed , people (including me) is making fun of such stupid servers which gain players meanwhile in good servers just don't get players and end closing -.-

02/04/2013 00:01 pro4never#2

It takes work to build a server.

There isn't much demand for ANY servers anymore and so you have to find your niche and market yourself. It will take months to really build up a significant player base and you need to also have something unique that other servers don't have.

For hellmouth that was always fixing what I felt tq did wrong, ensuring donators didn't become overpowered and listening to my player base. Granted it never was a gigantic player base but that's how I marketed and kept players.

So yah... find what it is you want to create and are willing to put work into. There are a million servers out there and you'll just have to understand that there will always be ppl who don't like your style of server and that's ok.

02/04/2013 00:21 go for it#3

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Originally Posted by pro4never

It takes work to build a server.

There isn't much demand for ANY servers anymore and so you have to find your niche and market yourself. It will take months to really build up a significant player base and you need to also have something unique that other servers don't have.

For hellmouth that was always fixing what I felt tq did wrong, ensuring donators didn't become overpowered and listening to my player base. Granted it never was a gigantic player base but that's how I marketed and kept players.

So yah... find what it is you want to create and are willing to put work into. There are a million servers out there and you'll just have to understand that there will always be ppl who don't like your style of server and that's ok.

im doing everything possible on server side , for 38 days and still until today im implementing new stuff day after day and fixing others
i've spend +17000 credits on some ptc website which worth +150 usd to get +20k visits in 5 days , did adv on 28 website , everytime someone join they ask for cps and when i refuse to give them they insult me and leave

i duno if i should increase rates ? turn it to pvp server (1 or 2 maps and removing all the useless threads,npcs,maps,mobs to give them the best ping they can ever get) ? stay with everything the same and just wait for people to get to know how stable the server is and how good it is ? i duno :\

but yes after all what you said is perfectly right , conquer private server community is kinda dead now

02/04/2013 04:08 PlayingLess#4

Well.. Pro4Never Is Right in that point i in my way would love to play Your server BUT if it is too hard i cant play it ... So i mean balance the rates try to be in the player position try to do everything to attaract players make it hard and needs some effort and not too easy for nubs!

Ps Give me Your Server Link Please :)

02/04/2013 14:42 go for it#5

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BUT if it is too hard i cant play it

i've made an archer and hunting for maybe 6 hrs in 2 days
here is the gears
level 110
elite 2 soc plume (lottery)
uni bound necky
super +4 bow 2 soc NDG SDG
elite coat +1
super 1 soc bounded ring
elite boots
elite crop
1 soc super fan +4 no gems
no soc super tower no+

isn't that awesome and fair ?
should i increase the rate ?

02/04/2013 17:06 Marko225#6

I love hard servers, where u cant be maxed within few hours, but what i think is, that players whose would like to play server like this dont like those new shits like pirate, monk and etc. are... Thats just my opinion.

I think you should keep your server as it is at this moment. Just be patient and more players will come up. I am going to give it try too.

I downloaded your client, extracted, everything was OK, but when i logged in and created my character i cant see my action bar... I changed resolution but it didnt help

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02/04/2013 19:57 shadowman123#7

well i feel bad toward ur server cuz ur server seemed too nice for me .. ( excuse me for not going ur server cuz i dont have Time :( ) but i liked ur server and i know that feeling when u do hard job and offering special server and no1 Joins .. Hope ur server Become popular one day

02/04/2013 20:02 go for it#8

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Originally Posted by Marko225

I love hard servers, where u cant be maxed within few hours, but what i think is, that players whose would like to play server like this dont like those new shits like pirate, monk and etc. are... Thats just my opinion.

I think you should keep your server as it is at this moment. Just be patient and more players will come up. I am going to give it try too.

I downloaded your client, extracted, everything was OK, but when i logged in and created my character i cant see my action bar... I changed resolution but it didnt help

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and ill fix that in the next release , thanks for notifying me
will pm you with a patch link to fix this and will fix it in the client
just in matter of mins :)

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well i feel bad toward ur server cuz ur server seemed too nice for me .. ( excuse me for not going ur server cuz i dont have Time ) but i liked ur server and i know that feeling when u do hard job and offering special server and no1 Joins .. Hope ur server Become popular one day

thanks mate :\ life is tough , you losing more often than you winning :) life was never fair and im getting used to it

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02/04/2013 20:59 Marko225#9

Yeah, I am sorry for this upload hosting, I wanted to upload my screen ASAP and I didnt realize that there are porn images :)

Going to try this patch and hope its gonna help me, thanks.

02/04/2013 22:19 PlayingLess#10

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Originally Posted by go for it

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i've made an archer and hunting for maybe 6 hrs in 2 days
here is the gears
level 110
elite 2 soc plume (lottery)
uni bound necky
super +4 bow 2 soc NDG SDG
elite coat +1
super 1 soc bounded ring
elite boots
elite crop
1 soc super fan +4 no gems
no soc super tower no+

isn't that awesome and fair ?
should i increase the rate ?

Does Monsters Drop Cps ? .. If Not try to make it alil bit easier ^_^ like 10 cps per 1 mob and ...Well Ur Server is Great i will download it For Sure
Also,Your server is harder than Elements V3 so try to make it more easier in making good sets so that we could lvl up faster ^_^

02/05/2013 09:52 Marko225#11

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Originally Posted by PlayingLess

Does Monsters Drop Cps ? .. If Not try to make it alil bit easier ^_^ like 10 cps per 1 mob and ...Well Ur Server is Great i will download it For Sure
Also,Your server is harder than Elements V3 so try to make it more easier in making good sets so that we could lvl up faster ^_^

No, droping 10 cps per mob will switch server to stereotype. He made really nice cps system, u can exchange met for few cps etc. I love this cps system and its not so hard to make good sets. Please dont change it Andrew...

Its Awesome server

02/05/2013 10:22 go for it#12

we haven't changed it :) every thing still the same but
i took 4 hrs yesterday to implement a new general drops system
7 tiers (level ranges ex. 0-20 , 20-40 , and so on) with rates depends on monster level
so now you gota reason to kill higher level monsters and not all server hunt in tc

also implemented a dialog reply for the packing item which gives you 9 different options of packing/exchanging
i've also added packing +1 stones and packing normal gems to gem pack
fixed gw conduc. 1 and 2
added npcs trading saddles for +1 steeds
implemented a dropping rate for vip one in +120 monsters with rate of 1-60000
also added so many stuff to count atm :D

@john please close this topic , it's not useful anymore , i decided to keep working no matter what , even if ill never get players ill still try :) thanks everyone :)

02/05/2013 13:19 derpingson#13

@go for it, we all know that you're a great coder, and you got some great ideas too.

I didn't play on your server, but i will, until then, i wish you good luck

Your server deserves to be one of the most popular servers

Good luck again :)

02/05/2013 14:58 CptSky#14

Basic rates I used on my server. Plus, there was a global variable around it. Well, I think when using 1x over the rate, it was similar to an official CO2 server.

Code:

    public struct Rate
    {
        public Double Refined;
        public Double Unique;
        public Double Elite;
        public Double Super;
        public Double Craft;
        public Double Meteor;
        public Double DragonBall;

        public void Default()
        {
            Refined = 0.154;
            Unique = 0.096;
            Elite = 0.0192;
            Super = 0.0048;
            Craft = 0.0337;
            Meteor = 0.072;
            DragonBall = 0.00356;
        }
    }

Code:

            Rate.Default();
            Rate.Refined = Rate.Refined * ((Double)(Level + 25) / 17.00);
            Rate.Unique = Rate.Unique * ((Double)(Level + 25) / 17.00);
            Rate.Elite = Rate.Elite * ((Double)(Level + 25) / 17.00);
            Rate.Super = Rate.Super * ((Double)(Level + 25) / 17.00);
            Rate.Craft = Rate.Craft * ((Double)(Level + 25) / 17.00);
            Rate.Meteor = Rate.Meteor * ((Double)(Level + 25) / 17.00);
            Rate.DragonBall = Rate.DragonBall * ((Double)(Level + 25) / 17.00);

02/05/2013 16:33 JohnHeatz#15

#Closed as requested