Sorce or Archer ?

hey guys i have some questions about this both chars ! i think archer is better he have more life resi and defens and makes fast good dmg but sorce makes good dmg too but when he fight vs a good zerk or other critter he died very fast sorce have no def and resi on a low lvl i have no idea on a high lvl like 110+

i hope i become feew good answers ! and sry for my bad english


1: what you guys think is better after the skill rebelance sorce or archer with what class i can kill more other classes ?

2: what uniqs are good for a low lvl80-90 archer ?

3: what stones need a archer in a HH bow ?

4: what uniqs are good for a low lvl80-90 sorce ?

5: what weapon is better for sorce staff or wand ?

6: what stones need a sorce in a HH weapon ?

1.sorc
2.2x int shuta,int luke
3.ashtal/scion stone
4.int shuta/int blode/int ohkeros/int luke
5.wand
6.ashtal

Hi

In my opinion, a sorc is better in pve and pvp. they got a dot skill (more then 3k dot if i'm right) when they are +111.

And they have halt :D. They will have more hp after rebalance and more damage. (Give them a buff from ranger, and they will have more resi and ele resi ^^)

I would use wand (cause they have a combo skill that gives cast if wand is used.) and always full of ashtals (more hp, damage and mana).

I like to use intel okheros + combi cause then you need less AOE's and you can do your max damage each time.

Hope my info was usefull ^^.

(i never had i high archer, so idk whats better, ashtal or scion)

Sorc Sorc Sorc!

Pro
-You dont need to use any Pots HP/MP (i dont know how it is on HH :D )

-You have 9898237489723498 AOE´s and can lvl verry verry fast

-He is realy good on PvP and important Character on Sieg

-You need one Ranger Toon and you have most Important Buffs that you need



Contra
-HH Armor , Weapons and other Items are expansive couse this Character is popular


Maybe i forgot something but i think this is enough ;)

PS: Archer is just the oppostie

1. Sorc
2. Int Shuta, Int Luke
3. Scion maybe Asthal after ballance
4. Bril Blode, Bril Ohkeros , Int Luke/Kark
5. Wand
6. Asthal

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Originally Posted by xxdob3rm4nnxx i think archer is better he have more life

LoL nope. Archer has the lowest hp of all characters actually...

Anyway sorc is what you are looking for so:

1)Sorc
2)don't care
3)don't care
4)int shutas and int kark for low lvl, if you are around 90 you can use int luke as well
5)Wand (it's not like it's actually better, it's your only choice if you want to use all your serious buffs lol)
6)Ashtals OR Attack damage stones if you can't affod the ashtals

thx and what stones comes in a unique/elite weapon by a sorce ?

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Originally Posted by xxdob3rm4nnxx thx and what stones comes in a unique/elite weapon by a sorce ?

ashtals

sorc 2 hit for archer np

Hi there,

also im still a Archer fan! As a consequence: In my opinion choose a Archer!
But i will wait for the official "Skill-Edit-List"

Archer has now more HP and u need 2 x Int. Shutas / Int. Luke for ur Archer. I would put Scionprayer Stones in ur Weapon / Gear ( Armpads, Boots ). The negative thing of the archer is the lvling in HH! U need a Sorc to heal u, because u have a lot of Mana Problems.

1: what you guys think is better after the skill rebelance sorce or archer with what class i can kill more other classes ?

At the moment i prefer the Archer.

2: what uniqs are good for a low lvl80-90 archer ?

2 x Int. Shuta ( both with Resi Stone Lv4+ ), Int Luke ( lv5 Ele Cloak ) Or 2 x Int Shuta ( Resi Lv4+ ) & 1 x Hestia Necklace ( Lv5 Cloak + StamPrayer Lv6, cuz of the Skill Rank Up 2 )

3: what stones need a archer in a HH bow ?

ScionPrayer Stones ( Archer is a DMG-Dealer and not a TankChar )

4: what uniqs are good for a low lvl80-90 sorce ?

2 x Int. Shuta ( Both Resi Lv4+ ) & Int. Luke ( Lv5 Ele Cloak ) OR 2 x Int. Ohkeros ( both with Resi Lv4+ & Int. Luke ( Lv5 Ele Cloak )

5: what weapon is better for sorce staff or wand ?

I'm still a Skill-Rank-Up Fan! Also i would use a Elite Wand ( SkillUpRank, DMG, Ele DMG )

6: what stones need a sorce in a HH weapon ?

Ashtals

Sorc just sorc

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Originally Posted by stolica55 sorc 2 hit for archer np

really... since i'm 111+, no one 2 shoot me... and som sorc died on pvp...

may be a full scion is not the good way for archer....

Sens22, u wrote: archer is dmg dealer. ofc yea. but a deadly archer give no more dmg..

I've played both classes, Let me give you the Prop's and Con's from both of them.

Sorcerer: (I'm lvl 120 Sorc well knowed in Gracia).

Pros:
- High HP/Mana (Without using full GTS)
- Most easy character to Farm and lvl (Including HH)
- High elemental res
- Good Damage dealer (You're abble to kill most of the classes)
- Halt and Requiem, best debuffs.
- DOT Debuff, (Decrease Movement and Attack speed, and deals 3.2k DMG each 2 seconds).

Cons:
- Medium Tanker (Sorc without GTS its an easy target for some chars like Ranger, Zerks)
- Party buff needed (At low lvl you are paper char and you have crap cast time)
- HH items cost expensive (As others says, Sorcs is a popular character, items cost alot.)
- Not good character against Rangers/Zerks.
- CC Eater (You'll need Lens and Combis untill you reach lvl 111, at that lvl you get your Cast buff)
- Low Physical resistance (You'll need best stones in items to reach 80%).

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Archer (I had my Archer lvl 106 in Gracia, well knowed too.)

Pros:
- Good damage (After you build him well)
- Best debuff dealer (Cast time, Elem res, Defense, Crit reduction)
- 8 Unblockeable skills
- DOT Debuff (Not 100% succes like Sorcerer but is good too.)
- HH items are cheap
- Insane movement speed.
- High cast time
- High Elemental/Phyisical resistance.

Cons:
- Low HP/MP
- Scions needed (You won't be abble to deal good damage using full ashtal, here you can see a test that i've made, [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...])
- Paper char against most of the classes.
- Mana eater (Skills cost too much Mana and Archer doesn't have good mana using full Scions).


If a Sorcerer do pvp against Archer, I'm not sure who will win, Chances are 50% for both classes, But my advice is, if you want an easy char, a good one, play Sorcerer, you'll feel totally comfortable playing him.

Just my opinion.

The Archer has after the Skill edit a lot of mov. speed and some more HP. A Archer can use his unblockable skills on any target and than he can run away or something. :) He will not die so fast, if u know how to play it. :) And if halt miss and the other HH-Debuff, is there a big chance to kill a sorc easy. Helpless, Heavy Hand + some HH skills ( with full pt buff ) , 1 x Skillbar and the Sorc is down. :)

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Originally Posted by Sens22 if halt miss and the other HH-Debuff, is there a big chance to kill a sorc easy. Helpless, Heavy Hand + some HH skills ( with full pt buff ) , 1 x Skillbar and the Sorc is down. :)

Easy Peasy

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Originally Posted by lm@o Easy Peasy

HOLY SHIT MY 1000TH POST:mofo:

but my problem is that the sorce have to slow atk cast time kk too time i use only a glorius sword eater and a kark when i put 2x shutas and 1x kark on him is then the atk cast faster ? my archer use too time 1x kark and 1x shuta and the atk cast is really fine