ranked beginner

yeah i got dragged down from ~1100 to 850 in 3 days by a friend who i tried to help getting higher now i got back from 850 to 1100 in 2 days with barely any loss....

but @ ~1100 the ppl with 1-10 ranked games get matched with me and i seem to not be able to carry those games..... after 1300 theres no problem but somehow the 1100->1300 range is my problem....

basically i jungle most of the time or go top and just win lane but as most know win lane is NOT =win game

maybe any tips?`

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Just try to help your team as much as possible.
When you like playing jungler, just go ahead and pick some ganking-junglers like Nautilus, Lee Sin or Twitch.

When you're playing at a lane, its a bit different, of course.
As an ap carry you might be able to help your lanes alot but as a top laner it's alot harder to actually help your lanes unless you take teleport and gank with it from time to time. So.. I wouldn't really recommend playing toplane at soloqueue.
Now bottomlane is another thing. I feel like bot ist the best way to go if you're duo with someone else.
If you dominate your lane extremely hard the enemyteam has to camp bot which means every other lane has pretty much freefarm or can push or do whatever they want.

So basically.. Just focus on farming, winning your lane/helping other lanes and maybe try to be something like a "leader".

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Originally Posted by The Zorkas Just try to help your team as much as possible. When you like playing jungler, just go ahead and pick some ganking-junglers like Nautilus, Lee Sin or Twitch. When you're playing at a lane, its a bit different, of course. As an ap carry you might be able to help your lanes alot but as a top laner it's alot harder to actually help your lanes unless you take teleport and gank with it from time to time. So.. I wouldn't really recommend playing toplane at soloqueue. Now bottomlane is another thing. I feel like bot ist the best way to go if you're duo with someone else. If you dominate your lane extremely hard the enemyteam has to camp bot which means every other lane has pretty much freefarm or can push or do whatever they want. So basically.. Just focus on farming, winning your lane/helping other lanes and maybe try to be something like a "leader".

Thanks for that guide.
Helped me out a lot and i were abel to push me back into 1050 today, i hate it how everyone plays just without the team in this elo.
Hope i can get higher to the ranks with a bit more teamplay.

meh im @ 1109 atm 8/8 wins :D but it starts where ppl seem to suck badly... had 2 guys with 0 ranked games played :(

I am ~1200 and i often got those terrible guys .
But some guys told me : dk about the game = free win ;)
Try it out !

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Originally Posted by The Zorkas If you dominate your lane extremely hard the enemyteam has to camp bot which means every other lane has pretty much freefarm or can push or do whatever they want.

this argument can be used for playing top/midlane too~

however i dont think dominating bot gives u any more advantage than dominating other lanes

actually it doesnt rly matter which lane you play, as long as ur winning your lane and can carry later on

if the enemies are even more fed than you then u´ll lose, if not then not

oh well that can be called ego play too. actually its the way i played my way up to somewhere 1800~
i never tried anything else below that like helping teammates or giving them adivse or shit but that may work too

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Originally Posted by theit123. this argument can be used for playing top/midlane too~ however i dont think dominating bot gives u any more advantage than dominating other lanes

The difference between botlane and other lanes is, that it's alot harder to gank a good botlane.
Of course, there are some exceptions like Lee @ top who can escape pretty much every gank, but usually a good botlane with a CC-Support can escape ganks alot easier than other lanes.

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Originally Posted by The Zorkas The difference between botlane and other lanes is, that it's alot harder to gank a good botlane. Of course, there are some exceptions like Lee @ top who can escape pretty much every gank, but usually a good botlane with a CC-Support can escape ganks alot easier than other lanes.

actually your argument applies to the enemies as well as for you. if bot is hard to gank that means you can escape ganks but your enemies as well, resulting in a decision of whose pair is better botlane. therefore your argument doesnt proove the "botlane can carry better than other lanes"-fact at all .

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Originally Posted by theit123. actually your argument applies to the enemies as well as for you. if bot is hard to gank that means you can escape ganks but your enemies as well, resulting in a decision of whose pair is better botlane. therefore your argument doesnt proove the "botlane can carry better than other lanes"-fact at all .

I never said that. :O

"If you dominate your lane extremely hard the enemyteam has to camp bot which means every other lane has pretty much freefarm or can push or do whatever they want."
That's exactly what I wrote in my first post.

I never said something about ganks from your own team or that bottom lane is better to carry with than other lanes.
The only thing I said was, that its probably the best thing if you're duo with someone.

wasn das für ne judensprache xDDDDDDDDDDD

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Originally Posted by The Zorkas I never said something about ganks from your own team

"I never said that" - coincidence, me neither

I never said something about ganks from your "own" team either, im just referring to the camp thing u mentioned.

i mean, jungler camping at botlane isnt that the same as ganking botlane? if ur dominating bot they have to camp there, but if they dominate your jungler has to camp there to meaning your argument applies to both teams

oh well thought it was understandable forget it

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Originally Posted by The Zorkas I feel like bot ist the best way to go if you're duo with someone else.

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Originally Posted by The Zorkas bottom lane is better to carry with than other lanes.

thats basically the same bro

if you add the "duo" to my words the meaning would still be the same. and as i like to repeat the word same, your argument with the botlane would still be the same, unreasonable

Of course you need to be better than the enemy.. wtf.
It doesn't work in another way.

I don't get what you did with splitting my posts into incomplete sentences, but go ahead..

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Originally Posted by The Zorkas Of course you need to be better than the enemy.. wtf. It doesn't work in another way.

thats why your argument is invalid. thats the point im trying to tell you since 3 posts but i didnt think it would take that long to get it. if u need to be better than the enemy whats the point in saying bot is the best choice? since then every lane where u r better than the enemy would lead to the same results.

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Originally Posted by The Zorkas I don't get what you did with splitting my posts into incomplete sentences, but go ahead..

thats sad dude i split it into the core of your statement to show you the obvious, cant think of anything to make it any more obvious sorry.

That will be my last post here.

Fact is: I said botlane is good, if you play duo.
And why did I say this? Because bot is all about communication between support and ad carry. That should be obvious, right?
And I said nothing more and nothing less.

And no, you didn't take the core of my statement.

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Originally Posted by The Zorkas Fact is: I said botlane is good, if you play duo.

to be precise, you said

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Originally Posted by The Zorkas I feel like bot ist the best

saying something is the best automatically means the rest is worse/isnt as good as it.

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Originally Posted by The Zorkas And why did I say this? Because bot is all about communication between support and ad carry. That should be obvious, right? And I said nothing more and nothing less.

i cant remember saying you mentioned something else. bot is all about communication beween support and ad carry - thats damn right.. not

ud be right if he questioned about only the botlane. duo is propably the best way to win the botlane, but thats no argument why itd be best in duoq to go botlane together - since itd lead to the answer to win the lane - and thatd lead to the question why bot can carry easier than other lanes, simple isnt it?

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Originally Posted by The Zorkas And no, you didn't take the core of my statement.

i hella did.