Can objects be deleted from maps?

I have been searching over 2 hours for an answer with no luck. I found this same question asked in 2 different "editing" post, but, they were never answered. Is it possible to delete nonessential solid objects from a map? If so, how?

Examples: large fountain in Cronus or boxes in Misty Marsh.

you can delete them..
look for there action's ID when u talk or click at them
and look in CQ_ACTION and find the ID and just delete the line.. and its related line.
look for id_next column and delete too.. but just make Backup before.. as i'm not 100% sure

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Hope i Helped. if not tell me :)

he means the fontain and the cave and that kind of stuff (like that castle in cronus)

they are pure graphical and can only be removed by editing the map itself in the client

Greetings From PowerChaos

Aha.. Sorry. got it wrong.. thought it Map (DB side)

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Originally Posted by PowerChaos he means the fontain and the cave and that kind of stuff (like that castle in cronus) they are pure graphical and can only be removed by editing the map itself in the client Greetings From PowerChaos

I found some graphical stuff for Market, player castles, paths, water, various ground types, rocks, and shore lines using GIMP 2, but, nothing for the actual city maps.
Am I using the wrong program to view/edit the city maps? Do I need to find the files and use a file extension converter to view the images in GIMP? Any help would be greatly appreciated. I have been working on this for around 8 months now (extensive makeover of the game) and this is all that stands in my way at the moment.

search Google for DDS Plugins to GIMP or DDS Thumb. Viewer

I just spent the last 1 1/2 hours searching every file with GIMP + DDS Plug-in looking for the fountain in Cronus with no luck. In fact, I can't find any of the main city map objects in any of the .dds images (except market booths)...

yes you can delete them but they are built to work with the items in them if you delete something you have to fill in the hole where it used to be or you will have an empty spot (use a thumbnail viewer to easily find the dds youre looking for)

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Originally Posted by idlemonkey yes you can delete them but they are built to work with the items in them if you delete something you have to fill in the hole where it used to be or you will have an empty spot (use a thumbnail viewer to easily find the dds youre looking for)

Ummm... I viewed every .dds file that's in the client and there was absolutely none of the solid objects you find in the cities (fountains, boxes, etc...).

well
if you look at .\data\map\puzzle\champaign\link\rampart
then you can see alreay that part where you walk in the city ( that bridge)

but i guess the other things are in the c3 files
as my image vieuwer can not open the C3 files is it not possible for me to check them

alteasy i could find already a lot in those dds files , like the roads and the bricks and the market parts

hopely this can help you

Greetings From PowerChaos

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Originally Posted by PowerChaos well if you look at .\data\map\puzzle\champaign\link\rampart then you can see alreay that part where you walk in the city (that bridge) but i guess the other things are in the c3 files

That's what I was thinking, too. Is there any way of viewing c3 file?

Also, I have been trying to put it on a friend's laptop running Vista and when I start it up it goes to "TEST" client. The thing is: I renamed the client when I first started working on it on Windows 7. It even runs fine on my Win7 machine. And before anybody asks: yes, everything is done correctly. It has the same "exact" files as on my laptop.

Yeah there is a way of viewing c3 files. You need to download bitrun. Anyway, there are no actual 3d models (c3 files) as far as it goes for map objects like the ones you speak of. Even if you edit the bits of the map out by changing their dds files, it won't change the boundaries. Which means they will probly just be invisible boundaries.

as far from what i know the map dont have any relation to the c3 file except the map interface/object. btw to delete the object on the map you may need to edit the dmap file and get the Data.dnp extractor to extract the DDS file(you need to get Data.dnp version 1070)..its contain many of map dds file so you can edit it using ur image editor(i recommend to use photoshop) then place it on ur client where the file should be. goodluck