WTFast or alternatives

01/31/2012 16:52 Thatguyintheroom#1
Now that things seem to be patched in Mabi for the time being: Does anyone have any possible way to get WTFast or a similar program to work on Mabi without hackshield detecting it at all? For some people, this program is the only method of playing the game we have due to crappy internet connection, so it sucks now that it isn't usable.
01/31/2012 18:55 lukinhas6197#2
Im that kind of person...
02/01/2012 22:16 kirbysama#3
download both.

MTU48
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MTU1500
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They change your MTU so attack/skill packets will be sent/received faster. I'm assuming that's what your problem is when you say you "can't play", you just can't fight easily.

All it is is a .bat to give you an active change of mtu.
Run 48.bat before you pick your character, and before you change channels, if you ever decide to change channels. After the "loading world" screen is finished loading, you can run 1500.bat to put your connection more or less back to normal, with the main ping issues alleviated.

If you keep it at 48, then your pet summons will take forever, NPCs and characters will appear slowly, and npc dialogue will take forever to start.
Also, it will slow down your normal web surfing speed to almost zero, until you run 1500 again.

This is "active" which means if it screws up your connection, restart your computer, and things will be back to normal. That's all there is to it.

If you don't trust, don't download. You can check the contents of the batch files by right-clicking, and then clicking edit.

Those of you who are more adept programmers, please don't be all snobbish, and say this is so inefficient or whatnot. I've heard enough of that. All I'm trying to do is help some of the people who are being forgotten.
This is all an amateur can do, and it works great.

__________________________________________________ ________________________Thank if I helped. ↓
02/01/2012 23:58 Thatguyintheroom#4
I'm aware of MTU changing but sadly, I like to rely on things like pets in dungeons, so it's a double edged method.
02/02/2012 01:53 lukinhas6197#5
Quote:
Originally Posted by kirbysama View Post
download both.

MTU48
[Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]
MTU1500
[Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

They change your MTU so attack/skill packets will be sent/received faster. I'm assuming that's what your problem is when you say you "can't play", you just can't fight easily.

All it is is a .bat to give you an active change of mtu.
Run 48.bat before you pick your character, and before you change channels, if you ever decide to change channels. After the "loading world" screen is finished loading, you can run 1500.bat to put your connection more or less back to normal, with the main ping issues alleviated.

If you keep it at 48, then your pet summons will take forever, NPCs and characters will appear slowly, and npc dialogue will take forever to start.
Also, it will slow down your normal web surfing speed to almost zero, until you run 1500 again.

This is "active" which means if it screws up your connection, restart your computer, and things will be back to normal. That's all there is to it.

If you don't trust, don't download. You can check the contents of the batch files by right-clicking, and then clicking edit.

Those of you who are more adept programmers, please don't be all snobbish, and say this is so inefficient or whatnot. I've heard enough of that. All I'm trying to do is help some of the people who are being forgotten.
This is all an amateur can do, and it works great.

__________________________________________________ ________________________Thank if I helped. ↓

i ping 620ms to nexon, i cant handle more than 200 mtu... and im still slow with 200 mtu...
02/02/2012 02:38 kirbysama#6
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Originally Posted by lukinhas6197 View Post
i ping 620ms to nexon, i cant handle more than 200 mtu... and im still slow with 200 mtu...
This works with Vista/7
If you run 1500 after your character appears, your pets will still work.
I'm pretty sure I said something like that in my little essay up there.

If you don't have windows vista/7, sorry, those files aren't for you, and they won't be of much use.
If you do have Vista/7 though, you can change MTU in real-time, so you don't have to be "stuck" on 48, or 200, or whatever.

As long as you run 48, just while you're connecting to the world or while you're changing channels, once the loading bar is full, immediately run 1500.bat
My connection isn't great quality either, and I can't stay on 48, or nothing will work. Give it a shot, complain after it doesn't work, not before.
02/02/2012 08:45 jas161#7
Quote:
Originally Posted by kirbysama View Post
download both.

MTU48
[Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]
MTU1500
[Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

They change your MTU so attack/skill packets will be sent/received faster. I'm assuming that's what your problem is when you say you "can't play", you just can't fight easily.

All it is is a .bat to give you an active change of mtu.
Run 48.bat before you pick your character, and before you change channels, if you ever decide to change channels. After the "loading world" screen is finished loading, you can run 1500.bat to put your connection more or less back to normal, with the main ping issues alleviated.

If you keep it at 48, then your pet summons will take forever, NPCs and characters will appear slowly, and npc dialogue will take forever to start.
Also, it will slow down your normal web surfing speed to almost zero, until you run 1500 again.

This is "active" which means if it screws up your connection, restart your computer, and things will be back to normal. That's all there is to it.

If you don't trust, don't download. You can check the contents of the batch files by right-clicking, and then clicking edit.

Those of you who are more adept programmers, please don't be all snobbish, and say this is so inefficient or whatnot. I've heard enough of that. All I'm trying to do is help some of the people who are being forgotten.
This is all an amateur can do, and it works great.

__________________________________________________ ________________________Thank if I helped. ↓
48 mtu is for most people too much. Personally I use around the 200's so I can avoid spikes.
02/02/2012 20:05 12201#8
Has anyone tried using Aol as a alternative? I know it was a alternative in the past.
02/02/2012 20:45 fenrir2037#9
Too lazy to upload. but C/P this to a batch file. For those wanting to change MTU

Quote:
@ECHO off
ECHO Default value is 1500.
SET num=1500
SET /P num= New MTU value?
netsh interface ipv4 set subinterface "Local Area Connection" mtu=%num% store=persistent
ECHO MTU Change to %num% is Complete!
ping 1.1.1.1 -n 1 -w 1500 > nul
A little script I wrote back when I played mabi a lot... Makes it easier IMO
02/02/2012 21:20 Nosirrom#10
Generally you'd only set two MTU values so having two batch scripts is about the same difficulty since you run one to set it low and one to reset it, no worries about typing each time. The mabinogi wiki recommends an MTU of 386, which doesn't seem to hinder pet loading speed and such like an MTU of 48 would, and from testing my lower-bandwidth connection didn't show much, if any difference between 386 and 48 (though 386 was still an improvement from 1500).
02/02/2012 22:36 mariokiller64#11
Holy shit, I set my MTU to 1500 and everything seemed lightning fast.
Not sure if it was the MTU or Mabinogi is being amazingly fast today.
02/03/2012 00:03 mocdragon#12
Quote:
Originally Posted by mariokiller64 View Post
Holy shit, I set my MTU to 1500 and everything seemed lightning fast.
Not sure if it was the MTU or Mabinogi is being amazingly fast today.
o-o 1500 mtu is normal for me, i normly set mine to 60, cus of my internet. You should try 300
02/03/2012 00:44 kirbysama#13
Quote:
Originally Posted by jas161 View Post
48 mtu is for most people too much. Personally I use around the 200's so I can avoid spikes.
I don't know what you mean by "too much" and "to avoid spikes"
If you have windows vista/7, you only need to lower MTU while loading into a channel, anytime after that return it to 1500, and you'll have the effects of MTU at 48, with no side effects because you returned to 1500...

Quote:
Originally Posted by 12201
Has anyone tried using Aol as a alternative? I know it was a alternative in the past.
Lol AOL? it's been ages since I remember getting those AOL disks they used to send in the mail every month... still have a stack of them...
Aol was very slow and unreliable, from what I've heard about it...

Quote:
Originally Posted by fenrir2037
Too lazy to upload. but C/P this to a batch file. For those wanting to change MTU

Quote:
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A little script I wrote back when I played mabi a lot... Makes it easier IMO
Wow, this is nice... includes a prompt for easier customizing...
That's above my knowledge to write... but I can understand it at least xD
Just a note, if you're telling people to use that, you might want to add a line for "Wireless Network Connection" as well, because WiFi is getting a lot more popular these days. I for one use wifi, and not wired, so your script would have done nothing for me, despite being nicely written ^^;
Also, this script is optimal for compatibility, but to make it safer for average users, on Vista/7, you'd probably want to set it as "active" instead of "persistent" so any issues with MTU could be remedied with a reboot.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nosirrom
Generally you'd only set two MTU values so having two batch scripts is about the same difficulty since you run one to set it low and one to reset it, no worries about typing each time. The mabinogi wiki recommends an MTU of 386, which doesn't seem to hinder pet loading speed and such like an MTU of 48 would, and from testing my lower-bandwidth connection didn't show much, if any difference between 386 and 48 (though 386 was still an improvement from 1500).
I don't know if you just misunderstood me or something, but Mabiwiki suggests 368 for WinXP and anything before Vista, because they couldn't handle dynamic MTU editing. 368 allows for most of the benefits of reduced MTU, with less loading time sacrificed for it.
On the other hand, Win Vista/7 can change MTU at any time. This means you load the lowest possible MTU, (I chose 48, instead of 40, to be safe), connect to the world, and after the loading bar is done, immediately change back to the highest/default, which gets rid of the side effects of slow pet loading, or slow npcs.
As for 48 vs 368, theres a tiny difference, and it's only practical with Vista/7. If you have Vista/7, it doesn't matter how much it slows you down, since it'll only last ~5 seconds as the world loads and then you can change it back and continue normal play.

Quote:
Originally Posted by mariokiller64
Holy shit, I set my MTU to 1500 and everything seemed lightning fast.
Not sure if it was the MTU or Mabinogi is being amazingly fast today.
If you set it to 1500, and it went faster, I don't know how that's possible, unless you were lucky enough to just get an hour or so of amazing connection... o.O
02/03/2012 05:26 fenrir2037#14
I should have emphasized the I'm lazy part.

I could, but I don't need it. And I'd figure most people would be capable of switching a few parameters around.
02/03/2012 06:04 Nosirrom#15
Ah, didn't read properly on the part that specified setting it back after connecting would allow pets to summon normally.