About Op Codes

Just starting this thread to see what peoples ideas about op codes are and how they are found.

I have found that most of the opcodes found are probably just guessed If u think about it most of the ones we have are all 4 chars and most of the old ones too. Although I have found a program called RiPE Star that claims to retrive opcodes and provide a description whether this is true or not I don't know. So far I really havent found any relation between the codes Alissa receives and opcodes.

I'm just a brainless leecher, but you know what you're talking about, right? In this case, you seem to be referring to the alissa packets with just the opcode and the character ID, and no other parameters at all. I don't like to seem like I know what I'm talking about, since I don't even compared to the least experienced semi-leecher, but meh...

If you're referring to the packets with JUST the opcode and ID, I don't think there'd be much connection to other packets. They're very easy to scan for (especially since, at least for this, a scanner and a source are both public) but there shouldn't be any connection to anything that's accessible--I assume you'd just look for things that are marked down to do something with just the opcode. So yes, you could guess what kind of things might use that format and try to look for them while scanning, or you just could guess at numbers until you find something. The first one has some pros, and if you have any idea what you're doing then neither should ever be necessary, but eh, if you're patient and efficient enough, manually going through a few good thousands over a few days/weeks might get you some decent finds (and I'm also curious if there are any opcodes that can break your character/account alone). So far a lot of have been in the first four characters, which should only be about 16,000 possibilities shouldn't it? Tasks that are THAT menial tax even the most focused people, but since you can type and send one with alissa in a very low amount of seconds, and many don't even disconnect you or give a small effect in game (though I assume a good amount will at least do something that may require a relog or just make some change) you could sort through the junk at a rate of several hundred opcodes per hour.

tl;dr Pretty sure what you're asking about isn't exactly that. (also an awesome example of low-level brute forcing with human labor from someone who doesn't know what brute forcing is) And because I got off topic again:

tl;dr Pretty sure what you're asking about isn't exactly that.

P.S. My wall of text skills are mighty.

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Originally Posted by jas161 Just starting this thread to see what peoples ideas about op codes are and how they are found.

Maybe it would be better to read about the subject, rather than start a new thread with no information.

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Originally Posted by jas161 I have found that most of the opcodes found are probably just guessed

Really? How have you found that? Not to be rude, but that's one of the dumbest things I've heard in a while.

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Originally Posted by jas161 So far I really havent found any relation between the codes Alissa receives and opcodes.

Judging by this statement, you should probably quit now...

Maybe it's just me, but shouldn't you have a clue what an opcode IS before starting threads about "peoples ideas about op codes are and how they are found."?

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Originally Posted by VanHef Maybe it would be better to read about the subject, rather than start a new thread with no information. Really? How have you found that? Not to be rude, but that's one of the dumbest things I've heard in a while. Judging by this statement, you should probably quit now... Maybe it's just me, but shouldn't you have a clue what an opcode IS before starting threads about "peoples ideas about op codes are and how they are found."?

This guy is right.

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Originally Posted by VanHef Maybe it would be better to read about the subject, rather than start a new thread with no information. Really? How have you found that? Not to be rude, but that's one of the dumbest things I've heard in a while. Judging by this statement, you should probably quit now... Maybe it's just me, but shouldn't you have a clue what an opcode IS before starting threads about "peoples ideas about op codes are and how they are found."?

Firstly have you ever seen the opcodes found? lemme give you example gmhide, tir teleport, emain teleport, dragon meteor (old), no save data (old) these are ALL 4 digits op codes and only one of them is beyond 1-1000. So im pretty sure my point is valid when I said they were probably guessed or just found merely by trying a few opcodes.

Secondly I started this thread to see peoples IDEAS and how they find opcodes as you know (or probably don't) there are many methods of finding opcodes one method I addressed was just comparing Alissa packets and how I don't see how it works. My method of obtaining is very different from the Alissa method which is why I was asking about it.

Lastly please oh please learn how to troll if you ever intend to again and try to pick on people that are stupieder than you that way you won't get shown up.

P.S Come back when you actually have something valid to say.

Perhaps the potential aggressiveness shifted your reading style a bit, but I agree that you should probably study up on things a bit more--I'm not sure a topic like this wouldn't attract trouble either way, but I would heavily suggest a bit more research. Even though my posts have just been random impulses that clutter the board... er, admitting it means that I'll probably have to stop now, but anyway, you appear to be somewhat confused about these opcodes.

Have you downloaded the scanner Anyrei posted a while back? There are probably multiple problems with that sentence, but the mod still works just fine and specifically scans for these. (I'd suggest to heed the warnings of using it on a different account, though--I only know what black robing is due to a coincidence, but regardless of anything, it at least seems easy to get an account stuck until maintenance.)

You also understand what opcodes are, right? What we've been talking about isn't "opcodes" per say, but packets that do things with just the opcode and character ID--no parameters. You've already listed examples yourself.

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Originally Posted by jas161 these are ALL 4 digits op codes and only one of them is beyond 1-1000. So im pretty sure my point is valid when I said they were probably guessed or just found merely by trying a few opcodes.

Ugh... I don't even see how you came up with that, but try to think about that "point" a bit more. By the way, they're 8-digit hex characters, like 00000582, and remember that hex in general is base16.

But from what you've said, you seem to know about "many ways of finding opcodes." So I'll actually give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you're right about everything related to Mabinogi, Alissa, packets, and computers.

However, even then, I would heavily, heavily suggest being a bit more open to suggestions. You talk about VanHef getting shown up, but even after lilaznboy2 reaffirmed the general idea without attacking you, you ignore the idea that reading up on this might be more helpful and insult him a great deal more than he did you. If you're going to start topics like this and actually expect the discussion of these ideas you wanted, you shouldn't be so quick to label people as trolls who are stupider than you.

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Originally Posted by jas161 Lastly please oh please learn how to troll if you ever intend to again and try to pick on people that are stupieder than you that way you won't get shown up. P.S Come back when you actually have something valid to say.

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Originally Posted by Englishnessness Perhaps the potential aggressiveness shifted your reading style a bit, but I agree that you should probably study up on things a bit more--I'm not sure a topic like this wouldn't attract trouble either way, but I would heavily suggest a bit more research. Even though my posts have just been random impulses that clutter the board... er, admitting it means that I'll probably have to stop now, but anyway, you appear to be somewhat confused about these opcodes. Have you downloaded the scanner Anyrei posted a while back? There are probably multiple problems with that sentence, but the mod still works just fine and specifically scans for these. (I'd suggest to heed the warnings of using it on a different account, though--I only know what black robing is due to a coincidence, but regardless of anything, it at least seems easy to get an account stuck until maintenance.) You also understand what opcodes are, right? What we've been talking about isn't "opcodes" per say, but packets that do things with just the opcode and character ID--no parameters. You've already listed examples yourself. Ugh... I don't even see how you came up with that, but try to think about that "point" a bit more. By the way, they're 8-digit hex characters, like 00000582, and remember that hex in general is base16. But from what you've said, you seem to know about "many ways of finding opcodes." So I'll actually give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you're right about everything related to Mabinogi, Alissa, packets, and computers. However, even then, I would heavily, heavily suggest being a bit more open to suggestions. You talk about VanHef getting shown up, but even after lilaznboy2 reaffirmed the general idea without attacking you, you ignore the idea that reading up on this might be more helpful and insult him a great deal more than he did you. If you're going to start topics like this and actually expect the discussion of these ideas you wanted, you shouldn't be so quick to label people as trolls who are stupider than you.

Wow you're even more of a retard. Firstly 00000582 is simplified to 582 since the 0's have no value. Second mod_scanner does absolutely nothing except list every opcode possible from a certain range. And why would you think lilaznboy is any more experienced then Vanhef frankly they both are as stupid as each other. If you actually look at lilaznboy's past post he is nothing but a leacher and a useless poster but you wouldn't know that because you have been here for very long.

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Originally Posted by jas161 Wow you're even more of a retard. Firstly 00000582 is simplified to 582 since the 0's have no value. Second mod_scanner does absolutely nothing except list every opcode possible from a certain range. And why would you think lilaznboy is any more experienced then Vanhef frankly they both are as stupid as each other. If you actually look at lilaznboy's past post he is nothing but a leacher and a useless poster but you wouldn't know that because you have been here for very long.

Hopefully smarter than you.

You are all mentally challenged. Get used to it and stop your petty arguments.

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Originally Posted by lilaznboy2 Hopefully smarter than you.

From that response doesn't look like it.

English why would you thank byak when he's calling you mentally challenged? Further proves how much of a retard you are...

P.S Your names are so long.

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Originally Posted by jas161 From that response doesn't look like it. English why would you thank byak when he's calling you mentally challenged? Further proves how much of a retard you are... P.S Your names are so long.

Liking a post does not necessarily mean you agree with it.

>jas161 getting mad for not knowing shit about packets/opcodes, loll.

The amount of retards on this forum has increased heaps.

You guys.

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