well, i just was wondering what i should know before i start botting to get blessed gear. Is it safe for me to use my normal Client or should i be using a multiclient, should i be hiding my ip? will my main get ban if i am hacking on a noob...? anything else i should know...? any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks :)
Hacking and Botting on Conqueronline
11/24/2011 08:20
271310064#1
11/24/2011 08:43
pro4never#2
The best bet for safety is the following..
#1: Use a trusted/safe (read: paid) bot
#2: Run the bot on an external connection (purchase a vps generally)
#3: NEVER use your main on the same internet connection to avoid ip bans (this means log bots only on the vps, main only on home connection)
Past that just don't be stupid. Don't bot in areas you're going to get reported. Don't use real gear on botted characters (farm 1-120 with normal items. Less reason for people to report you)
#1: Use a trusted/safe (read: paid) bot
#2: Run the bot on an external connection (purchase a vps generally)
#3: NEVER use your main on the same internet connection to avoid ip bans (this means log bots only on the vps, main only on home connection)
Past that just don't be stupid. Don't bot in areas you're going to get reported. Don't use real gear on botted characters (farm 1-120 with normal items. Less reason for people to report you)
11/24/2011 08:55
271310064#3
running the bot on an external connection...would that be the same as using say RealIpHider.. if not is there a way to do that without paying...? I dont have a job...
11/24/2011 09:46
pro4never#4
Considering the only bots worth using all charge per month that could pose an issue.Quote:
running the bot on an external connection...would that be the same as using say RealIpHider.. if not is there a way to do that without paying...? I dont have a job...
You could route the bot through an external proxy but most free proxy services are incredibly slow. I know a few of the testers of the Chrome bot were using some listed on hidemyass and they worked decently. They will not be very reliable from a stability/speed standpoint though which is unfortunate but they would work for the aspect of hiding your main from any sort of ip ban/botjail.
Disclaimer: I'm not referring to any forum member in particular by my following statement, it's just a rule of thumb.
Any free bots can be basically expected to have issues with account security. Most will contain some form of monitoring/account logging and even if the creator of the bot is perfectly legit (take cooperative for example) there's still going to be far more issues relating to bot detection due to the ease of detection. Less effort put into it (why bother? you're not making money why put too much work into finding every possible way to protect your users) and more users/tq can just download the bot and see how it behaves.
So yes.. I don't know if I'd ever pay for a bot myself but if you're honestly interested in botting on conquer then it's 100 percent the way to go right now.
11/25/2011 04:54
271310064#5
alright well lets say i do buy a bot like ConquerAI for example, and i also get a VPS. What i am planning to do is bless the gear that i currently have on my main. Would that be safe? How would i log the chars? (ex..get someone to log my main...?) Also,you say its not safe to use a free bot, but if i am using one and i use a vpn is my main account still not safe from the bot creater?
11/25/2011 08:27
pro4never#6
I just have large concerns when free (effective) hacks/bots are involved... They have a bad track record for containing backdoors or just being easily detected by tq.
As for blessing your main's gear... It's a tad more problematic in that you will end up trading gear to/from main in some way and if tq REALLY cared they could track the trades and ban whoever got the end items...
That being said it's not a big risk unless you're doing something to seriously piss off tq. Lets say you started up the bot now and farmed 10 120 ninjas using it. This would take you... couple days lets say.
Now, you have 10 ninjas sitting at 120 with full normal gear doing nothing. Personally I'd say, leave those ninjas inactive for a WEEK. Do not log onto them, don't deal with them once they are farmed.
Once that is done, log onto them and see how many have been bot jailed (the only reason there should be delayed botjails is due to being reported/recorded). These accounts I would now consider 'safe' to use to bless your gear with. The likelyhood of tq caring enough to check into OLD botted accounts and track where gear is ending up (separate ips still) is virtually zero.
As for maintaining separate ips... You run the bot on the vps and your normal characters on your own computer. You shouldn't have any issues trading between the two.. just control them from the vps/bot interface while controlling your main from your normal client. They will be connecting to tq on completely different ip addresses (often across the country lol) and so if tq decides to ip botjail all of the accounts you are botting, it will never detect your main.
As for blessing your main's gear... It's a tad more problematic in that you will end up trading gear to/from main in some way and if tq REALLY cared they could track the trades and ban whoever got the end items...
That being said it's not a big risk unless you're doing something to seriously piss off tq. Lets say you started up the bot now and farmed 10 120 ninjas using it. This would take you... couple days lets say.
Now, you have 10 ninjas sitting at 120 with full normal gear doing nothing. Personally I'd say, leave those ninjas inactive for a WEEK. Do not log onto them, don't deal with them once they are farmed.
Once that is done, log onto them and see how many have been bot jailed (the only reason there should be delayed botjails is due to being reported/recorded). These accounts I would now consider 'safe' to use to bless your gear with. The likelyhood of tq caring enough to check into OLD botted accounts and track where gear is ending up (separate ips still) is virtually zero.
As for maintaining separate ips... You run the bot on the vps and your normal characters on your own computer. You shouldn't have any issues trading between the two.. just control them from the vps/bot interface while controlling your main from your normal client. They will be connecting to tq on completely different ip addresses (often across the country lol) and so if tq decides to ip botjail all of the accounts you are botting, it will never detect your main.
11/25/2011 09:11
271310064#7
Alright dude, Thanks many times over. Everything you have said helped me a lot and i cant think of any more questions to ask, hehe.
Actually, i have one more question...for now:p
Is it safe for me to use aimbot other then how obvious it can be to other players? Like, can tq detect aimbot?
Actually, i have one more question...for now:p
Is it safe for me to use aimbot other then how obvious it can be to other players? Like, can tq detect aimbot?
11/27/2011 06:44
Black§un#8
in this sentence i am not promoting Conquer Genius i am just putting things in my perspective
Well it all depends with Cogenius your able to make things a little less obvious by reducing the accuracy to make yourself seem a little more legit. But you dont want to go crazy and kill 20 people in 15 seconds shot like some morons(no name will be mentioned) that will get you reported very very fast.
From what i know(which isn't much) it is a little challenging to detect Aimbots that are well coded but the poorer coded free Aimbots(just search the forum) can be detected more easily.
Well it all depends with Cogenius your able to make things a little less obvious by reducing the accuracy to make yourself seem a little more legit. But you dont want to go crazy and kill 20 people in 15 seconds shot like some morons(no name will be mentioned) that will get you reported very very fast.
From what i know(which isn't much) it is a little challenging to detect Aimbots that are well coded but the poorer coded free Aimbots(just search the forum) can be detected more easily.
11/27/2011 06:53
-Isaac-#9
Aimbot away, generally you get botjailed from being retarded and chaining like a maniac, not because of the bot sending off something detectable.
11/27/2011 15:12
TheBoyWhoLost#10
#2 is absolutely NOT needed.Quote:
#1: Use a trusted/safe (read: paid) bot
#2: Run the bot on an external connection (purchase a vps generally)
#3: NEVER use your main on the same internet connection to avoid ip bans (this means log bots only on the vps, main only on home connection)
Past that just don't be stupid. Don't bot in areas you're going to get reported. Don't use real gear on botted characters (farm 1-120 with normal items. Less reason for people to report you)
#3 Again this is FALSE information. It's all about botting smart.
But yet again why a vps? A vpn could also do the trick. You should at least recommend both.
As it is smarter to do so, but then again not needed as long as you know what you are doing.
11/27/2011 18:17
myty#11
could u explain?Quote:
#3 Again this is FALSE information. It's all about botting smart.
But yet again why a vps? A vpn could also do the trick. You should at least recommend both.
As it is smarter to do so, but then again not needed as long as you know what you are doing.
11/27/2011 19:57
TheBoyWhoLost#12
Botting smart:Quote:
Make sure you don;t get reported: don't bot like a fool with 40/50/60/70/80/90/100/110/120/200/500/1000 accounts online. You can make a huge profit with just 10/20 accounts.
Know who are the reporters on your server, so you can DC on them and the chance that they report you will be a lot lower.
When you plan to login an important account make sure you leave enough time in between botting and logging in clean so TQ won't be tracing your IP while you login these important accounts.
Basically just know your server.
11/27/2011 21:03
pro4never#13
They are tips, not absolute requirements.Quote:
#3 Again this is FALSE information. It's all about botting smart.
But yet again why a vps? A vpn could also do the trick. You should at least recommend both.
As it is smarter to do so, but then again not needed as long as you know what you are doing.
In my mind I'd rather use a vps versus a vpn just because I like having a server for my own purposes but I suppose they are rather interchangeable in this case. Seeing as I've had a vps for like a year and a dedicated box the last 4-5 months my mind goes there rather then to a vpn.
Obviously botting smart is your first defense but you can't really claim that logging your main into the game on the same ip that you are botting with is a good idea. Tq will VERY rarely bother with ip bans but they definitely do them. No matter how smart you bot, sooner or later someone is going to report at least one of your botters. Would you really want to risk a character you've been working on for months/years simply based around the fact that the chances of it being punished are low?
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As for why I prefer the idea of using a vps to host the bot... I do have a few reasons.
#1: Less risk of logging in with wrong ips.
It really only takes one time to risk your character. The logs will always be there for tq if they for some reason decided to start taking botting seriously. Personally I like having the bot program completely separate from my computer (not even installed locally) and it completely solved the risk of "oops, I logged the wrong account" or whatever.
#2: No reason to leave computer on.
I'd rather not be down a night of botting cause of a power outage/windows update/etc as well as the wasted power.
#3: Better botting stability
Not a big issue seeing as you should be being smart and not botting with huge amounts of clients at once but still... just about any vps you would rent will have a faster, more stable internet connection then your home one and will generally have MUCH better ping to the tq servers (you could even shop with your server location in mind). This will let you make the bot settings faster without sacrificing the stability of it whatsoever.
11/27/2011 22:42
271310064#14
If you ask me, what you both are saying are factors in safe botting. pro4never is giving info more on saving your main account from any trouble while you are giving tips on how to make your botting characters more safe...they are both helpful but id rather my main account be 99% safe then any of my botting characters.Quote:
Make sure you don;t get reported: don't bot like a fool with 40/50/60/70/80/90/100/110/120/200/500/1000 accounts online. You can make a huge profit with just 10/20 accounts.
Know who are the reporters on your server, so you can DC on them and the chance that they report you will be a lot lower.
When you plan to login an important account make sure you leave enough time in between botting and logging in clean so TQ won't be tracing your IP while you login these important accounts.
Basically just know your server.
11/27/2011 23:34
myty#15
maybe you could explain about the vpn and all other stuff that you saidQuote:
Make sure you don;t get reported: don't bot like a fool with 40/50/60/70/80/90/100/110/120/200/500/1000 accounts online. You can make a huge profit with just 10/20 accounts.
Know who are the reporters on your server, so you can DC on them and the chance that they report you will be a lot lower.
When you plan to login an important account make sure you leave enough time in between botting and logging in clean so TQ won't be tracing your IP while you login these important accounts.
Basically just know your server.