Timeless TwinR V.S. CabalRider (Pros and Cons)

05/24/2008 07:27 kolox16#1
Well im quite bored this morning at the office so i decided to create this simple Pros and Cons for these famous bots in cabal..

DISCLAIMER:This is jsut my experience using the two bots..its up to you w/c one will you prefer to use..and as I always say,"USE THE BOT AT YOUR OWN RISK!!"

A. CabalRider(Using 1.0.2 coz i didn't try 1.0.3 yet)
DL Link [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] For Cabal N/A
Pros:
1. Very Easy To Use(User Friendly in short)
2. Syncronized and organized Botting
3. Semi-Undetected(cancels party, trade & PVP request)
4. Very nice inventory hack(w/c stacks loot items)
5. Minimized KSing other players

Cons:
1. Auto-Loot Function Doesn't turn off when not botting
2. Poor Filter Fucntion(In v1.0.2)
3. Lack of short-cut keys(but not a very discussed issue,everyone can manage)
4. It displays "Offline" when PM and "Away" while botting
5. Not a "Hack" (e.g. Wall hack, AoE Hack, Range Hack, etc.)


B. TwinR(Timerless trial version of Izeliae)
DL Link [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] For Cabal N/A
Pros:
1. Very nice Hacking and Botting all in one
2. Semi-Undetected(does not display "Offline" or "Away" when botting)
3. Doesn't DC and can be use 24/7
4. Auto-Loot Function turns off when not botting
5. Nice short-cut key for hacks(f5-f12)
6. can be use w/ CE or other 3rd party application because it disable .dll file of XTrap

Cons:
1. For Noobs,Its hard to Configure
2. Said to have "keylogger"(but i haven't prove it yet but still im using it :D)
3. No Item Filter
4. Doesn't Cancels party, trade & PVP Request
5. KSing other players
6. No invnetory hack(for Izeliae version only)

These are the things "I" experience while using this bots..Now,there are only 3 decisions for you to make,that is to use CR, to use TR or not to bot at all:D:D:D

If this information Helps you,press the "Thanks" button :D:D:D
05/24/2008 17:10 jaketheking1020#2
Thanks i am going to use it when Cabal rider gose to pay =)
05/24/2008 18:41 phatal808#3
Why compare or even mention a bot that is outdated... 1.02?

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A. CabalRider(Using 1.0.2 coz i didn't try 1.0.3 yet)
DL Link [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] For Cabal N/A
Pros:
1. Very Easy To Use(User Friendly in short)
2. Syncronized and organized Botting
3. Semi-Undetected(cancels party, trade & PVP request)
You can set that in your options for cabal..not a bot feature
4. Very nice inventory hack(w/c stacks loot items)
To me this is the largest advantage to the CR
5. Minimized KSing other players

Cons:
1. Auto-Loot Function Doesn't turn off when not botting
This is in the bot that you can turn on and off with a simple click
2. Poor Filter Fucntion(In v1.0.2)
The filter is good, you just know how to script it which there is now a guide for
3. Lack of short-cut keys(but not a very discussed issue,everyone can manage)
WTF would you use shortcuts for?
4. It displays "Offline" when PM and "Away" while botting
5. Not a "Hack" (e.g. Wall hack, AoE Hack, Range Hack, etc.)


B. TwinR(Timerless trial version of Izeliae)
DL Link [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] For Cabal N/A
Pros:
1. Very nice Hacking and Botting all in one
2. Semi-Undetected(does not display "Offline" or "Away" when botting)
Maybe it doesn't show you away/offline but if you walk up to someone using this (with hacks and combos enabled) you dead. The safe mode is buggy and usualy does not work.
3. Doesn't DC and can be use 24/7
4. Auto-Loot Function turns off when not botting
5. Nice short-cut key for hacks(f5-f12)
6. can be use w/ CE or other 3rd party application because it disable .dll file of XTrap

Cons:
1. For Noobs,Its hard to Configure
How is it hard? 10 boxes 10 slots
2. Said to have "keylogger"(but i haven't prove it yet but still im using it :D)
3. No Item Filter
4. Doesn't Cancels party, trade & PVP Request
Again, use the cabal options
5. KSing other players
6. No invnetory hack(for Izeliae version only)
This is the biggest drawback on this bot. You can't make any money using this bot if you can only hold a few items to sale.

These are the things "I" experience while using this bots..Now,there are only 3 decisions for you to make,that is to use CR, to use TR or not to bot at all:D:D:D

If this information Helps you,press the "Thanks" button :D:D:D
05/24/2008 19:22 ksherm01#4
CabalRider does not show you as offline when PMed.
Either does TwiNR

TwinR bypasses xtrap completley, so in my opinion, less chance of GM log detection.
Not sure if thats accurate or not though.

Yes, cabalrider is VERY user friendly.
TwinR is quite difficult at first, since there are no words on the damn program.

I prefer CabalRider NOT having hacks, because its less temptation to use them. TwinR's hacks will get you banned pretty fast.. if your not cautious.
the DoT of TwinR's aoe hack gives it away.

TwinR doesnt have a radius editor. so if you do something afk, your char will go everywhere.

If you die with TwinR, it automatically turns the wallhack on and runs you back to your spot...i dont like that.

And of course, the inventory thing, everyone loves that.
05/24/2008 20:06 requiescence#5
I don't see the auto-loot function in Cabal Rider as a disadvantage when not botting. O.o
It's quite nice to automatically pick up any Alz in the surrounding area and not having anyone realize who picked it up.
05/24/2008 22:07 phatal808#6
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Originally Posted by ksherm01 View Post
CabalRider does not show you as offline when PMed.
Either does TwiNR
hmmm... didn't know this will have to test it

TwinR bypasses xtrap completley, so in my opinion, less chance of GM log detection.
Not sure if thats accurate or not though.

Yes, cabalrider is VERY user friendly.
TwinR is quite difficult at first, since there are no words on the damn program.
ROFLED

I prefer CabalRider NOT having hacks, because its less temptation to use them. TwinR's hacks will get you banned pretty fast.. if your not cautious.
the DoT of TwinR's aoe hack gives it away.
I about gizzed myself when I turned up TwinR hacks... I was like WTFOMFG!!! If you sit at your pc and watch out for people coming by and use these insane hacks you can level 10x faster than Cabal can easily

TwinR doesnt have a radius editor. so if you do something afk, your char will go everywhere.
You can't tell it the radius you want but I do believe there is a radius limit as I have ventured out rather far then the bot started back to where it came from passing by mobs

If you die with TwinR, it automatically turns the wallhack on and runs you back to your spot...i dont like that.
GUARANTEED TO GET BANNED!!! I left my bot on over night just using Normal mode with no hacks enabled... of course he had died and was running back to hunting grounds and I see him running through trees and over cliffs... my jaw dropped... More than likely that toon will be banned but he's good for farming right now... lvl 100 WA

And of course, the inventory thing, everyone loves that.
That's right!
05/25/2008 06:12 kolox16#7
well as i said yesterday,i have a very boriing day so i wrote this study according to my expierience..

@requiescence
it is..some noobies drop their item to transfer to other noobie..another thing,when goin back to botting spot,some players do a helpet t-quest (particularly message t-helper) and you will accidentally loot their message..

@phatal808
that is my expierience in CR 1.0.2 w/c is as the same as 1.0.3 w/ a slight difference(maybe the auto-sell is enabled in 1.0.3) but still the features are the same..i know the options for cabal but as i said,im telling this to general players(noobs, advance, expert) and most specially noobs they wont even bother to look for the options when their botting..
***As for auto loot,yeaps unchecking the checkbox to auto-loot will turn it off but as i said,if you run CR as a backround so that you will not set it up again when you want to sleep,and most of the times you forgot that it is there,still the auto loot will loot everything even your mama's panties if it is laying around on its path(Peace :D)..
***for filter function,as i asid earlier,im talking in general,ok we know all the script but 60% of players in cabal does't know how to configure this especially newbie..
***as for twinR,well you will get it,some of the players doen't know what is "million second" is all about.."is it one million seconds?..." some might say and we all know its a noob..logically we can understand it but for some they dont..

@ksherm01
well if your not wise to use twinR,you will get banned..as for me,i used it 18hrs a day,no deaths,no detection,why?? well its my secret :D you just need to find out how to be stealth(you know what i mean)..

@all
botting needs a lot of "LOGIC" and experience for us botters not to get banned or detected..for hacks,well,its up to you to,use it but i dont like to..too much botting makes the game senseless..its makes the game boring when you have no more goals to achive..i just bot to level my skill thats all and when i reach dual trans,i'll stop for good and play legit..because leveling its not hard only skilling and alz is hard :D:D:D

quite too long but you'll get what i mean..
05/25/2008 16:07 requiescence#8
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Originally Posted by kolox16 View Post
@requiescence
it is..some noobies drop their item to transfer to other noobie..another thing,when goin back to botting spot,some players do a helpet t-quest (particularly message t-helper) and you will accidentally loot their message..
Lol I lost the patience of "being nice" in this game. 90% of the people in the NA version are just messed up, so I couldn't care less if I accidentally loot their items. Besides they can't find out who took their quest item, so unless your conscience plays in a version that has a lot of nice players I still don't see it as a problem. I think I picked up a high upgrade core this way once when someone forgot to pick it up.
05/26/2008 02:01 BotManiac#9
Theres a little box that says "auto-loot"

Just uncheck it if youre not botting
05/26/2008 02:24 phatal808#10
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Originally Posted by BotManiac View Post
Theres a little box that says "auto-loot"

Just uncheck it if youre not botting
I told him that but he still says it auto loots in the background.... I have no idea what he's talking about. If it's checked it loots, if it's not checked it doesn't loot.... pretty simple. :confused:
05/26/2008 06:48 kolox16#11
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Originally Posted by BotManiac View Post
Theres a little box that says "auto-loot"

Just uncheck it if youre not botting
i know all of this bro,as i said,im just concern to the "NOOBZ" of the game using this..

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Originally Posted by phatal08
I told him that but he still says it auto loots in the background.... I have no idea what he's talking about. If it's checked it loots, if it's not checked it doesn't loot.... pretty simple.
i dont want to argue w/ you dude..the only thing im pointing about is what if there is a noob that forgots to uncheck the "auto-loot" function and still he runs CR at the background?!

@all
I know how to configure CabalRider because thats the first bot ive ever used in my entire life..ive study the program on how to do this and that and im pretty sure im 99% familiar w/ the interface and commands of the bot. ive even help BotManiac to find some bugs and glitches using CR..I wrote this comparison for "newbies" to understand what will they encounter at first time they will use these bots accoring to my experience..and for those who have experience to create some useful guides for noobz to read and understand..

Now i state my case..and i hope you will understand now..
05/26/2008 06:54 ksherm01#12
to kolox
:cool: rock on dawg. good shiz right here, don't worry about if people dont appreciate.
05/26/2008 07:23 kolox16#13
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Originally Posted by ksherm01 View Post
to kolox
:cool: rock on dawg. good shiz right here, don't worry about if people dont appreciate.
Thanks ksherm01..but they're not against me or something..i think their just trying to correct me..i accept all of their opinions and feedback as a good player but still im just making my point to be recognized by all readers in my post..and that is "NOOBS will encounter this difficulties when they use this bot for the first time.."

im just concern on little guys w/ less experience in such things..
05/26/2008 18:09 silverrboyy#14
walao u know got virus ma
05/26/2008 20:07 phatal808#15
Maybe you should adjust your original post with the correct info.. Yeah it's a great post and for the new guys here it's essential because I'm sure a lot of them have these questions. I just wanted to make sure that they understood that it could be turned off and you won't loot anything at all whether botting or chilling in town.

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Cons:
1. Auto-Loot Function Doesn't turn off when not botting