[IMPORTANT INFO] Beware of HolyBot

06/22/2011 20:37 silkbotter#1
important information for all HolyBot users!!!
HolyBot sends Charname + ID + Password to the botserver! i have seen the packets being decrypted! as juma says... there are 2 packets needed. 1 with an encryption, and a second one with a tiny generated hash to re-crypt the crypted packet!

in case you are using the bot: i have no idea what holy will do with access data!!
but he lied to me!! he sweared he does not log id/pw! but he did. i would NOT trust him!!!
please change your ID/PW data as soon as possible!

here's jumas post:
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HoLy's post
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Hey,
Yes its true, HoLy Bot sended the login informations to the server,
but the server didn't saved this informations.
The logging of informations was a function that i used in the closed beta,
that i would know if a beta tester gives the bot to his friends.
When i released the public bot i forgot to delete this function.
You can ask my beta testers they all known that they informations where logged.
Im very sorry for the guys who bought the bot and have now to hear about it,
I realy only forgot to delete this function.
I will release as fast as posible a version without this feature.

I think Jumalauta will release a crack as fast as he can and because of
this i will think about stopping with bot coding or continuing it.

I will stop selling new bot times to users, until i thought about it.
But every old VIP member can use the bot until his time expires.

I will open the forum again at 00:00AM german time, that you can give me your feetback.

Sincereley HoLy


now let's analyse this...


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Hey,
Yes its true, HoLy Bot sended the login informations to the server,
but the server didn't saved this informations.
WRONG! he could tell me at what time the char logged in / teleported, the location where the char teleported, the ip-address, the time. he just didn't tell me that he also logged ID/Password!



Code:
The logging of informations was a function that i used in the closed beta,
that i would know if a beta tester gives the bot to his friends.
When i released the public bot i forgot to delete this function.
You can ask my beta testers they all known that they informations where logged.
also a lie! they never knew about them!i was the one who pmmed them and who told them that holy was logging user data.
and me, as the ex closed-alpha-tester didn't know about it. but i knew enough to configure the botserver,the forums and so on.
your mods had no clue about anythign being logged! and you know it. unfortunately i cannot give you the screenshots of the pm's i had with his mods/beta testers because he deleted me from his forum!



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Im very sorry for the guys who bought the bot and have now to hear about it,
I realy only forgot to delete this function.
I will release as fast as posible a version without this feature.
fuck you! you are sorry?? total bullshit! you knew it! i asked you about 20 times if you log id/pw becasue i was not in the ood to risk my reputation as trustful member of elitepvpers! and you always denied it! you would remember it if it would be like that!
you said you started a complete new bot (esrobot), and you implemented the loggging function again?
just for the info: the id/pw are being sent to the server through the old pserver bot and the esro bot!



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I think Jumalauta will release a crack as fast as he can and because of
this i will think about stopping with bot coding or continuing it.

I will stop selling new bot times to users, until i thought about it.
But every old VIP member can use the bot until his time expires.

I will open the forum again at 00:00AM german time, that you can give me your feetback.

Sincereley HoLy
yes. at least jumalautas cracks are secure!probably you did the same thing on db-bot and claimed jumalautas cracks had keylpoggers :facepalm:
stop it...nobody will trust you again anyways.

why did you close the forum, and why did you guys delete all the messages on your forums regarding the logging?
members on your forums got banned becasue they posted this information on psro.info's forum.

now you say you forgot to delete the function, but your mods delete all topic about this, and ban all players who create such topics on your forum? what are you hiding?
who da fuck are you trying to fool?


this person is NOT trustworthy!
be warned!



for everyone who thinks i'm lying (lol), here's a screenshot of my direct question regarding account logging:
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GERMAN:
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TheRoss:	jo.
HoLy:	bin gleich weg :(
TheRoss:	niochmal ne ganz schnelle frage... ich weiß..hab ich schin mal. aber ich muss nochmal fragen (bleibt auch 100% unter uns)
TheRoss:	will meinen namen nicht kaputt machen. hat gedauert mir so n ruf zu bauen...
TheRoss:	loggst du account daten mit dem bot?
bitte ehrlich. ich behalte es auch fpr mich. ich gebe dir mein ehrenwort
HoLy:	ne tuhe ich nicht :) hab nur mal überlegt es zu machen aber ist mir zu risk
TheRoss:	ok.. weil du mir ja auch einige tabellen nicht zeigen wollstest.
TheRoss:	und da fragte ich mcih auch, was in diesen tabellen steht, was angeblich mit der verschlüsselung zu tun hat (weil das ja eher code, und kein tabelleneintrag ist).
TheRoss:	sonst reißt du mich nämlich wirklich inne scheiße.
TheRoss:	warum? deswegen: http://www.elitepvpers.com/forum/private-sro-main-discussions-questions/1144917-question-swsro2-players.html#post10324418
HoLy:	kannstr mir schmell ne kurtz fassung  geben?

wenig zeit
TheRoss:	jeamnd meinte er wurde gehackt, 2 tage nachdem er den bot benutzt hat.
TheRoss:	habe mich voll eingesetzt., mein wort gegeben, gesagt dass cih allle "logs" aka tabellen mit inhalt gesehen habe, und versichern kann dass keine zugangsdaten geloggt werden.
HoLy:	wprd ich mit dem bot hacken dam glaub mir ich würds nich iner beta machen
HoLy:	ich zeig dir nacher mal die tabellen ok?
TheRoss:	mein ruf ist mir wichtig. du siehst dass ich ein ehrlicher mensch bin, der keinen in die scheisse reißt. und sich einen gewissen ruf aufzubauern dauert verdammt lange, wenn man keinen bot für einen pserver erstellen kann :D
HoLy:	jo ich weis
TheRoss:	kein problem. ich bin so frei, und schenke dir das vertrauen. cih habe ein gutes gefühl mit dir.
TheRoss:	*bei dir
TheRoss:	aber, sieh zu dass de den tag genießt ;) 
werde gleich nochmal arbeiten mü´ssen (eine rauchen gehen :D )
HoLy:	hehe okey
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TheRoss:	yeah.
HoLy:	i'll be going :(
TheRoss:	just a quick little question.. i know..i already asked you this... but i've gotta ask you this again (this info will stay between us 100%)
TheRoss:	i don't want to ruin my reputation. it took a lot of time bbuilding it up like it is now...
TheRoss:	do you also log account data with your bot?
please be honest. i will keep it for myself. i give you my word!
HoLy:	[size=3]no i don't :) i just thought about doing it once but it was too risky[/size]
TheRoss:	ok.. cuz you didn't want to show me those log tables.
TheRoss:	and there i also asked myself, what kind of information would be in those tables,whcich has something to do with your bot encryption (cuz that encryption algorythm ismore somethign like a code and not any table entry)
TheRoss:	else you'll fuck me over pretty bad.
TheRoss:	why? becasue of this: http://www.elitepvpers.com/forum/private-sro-main-discussions-questions/1144917-question-swsro2-players.html#post10324418
HoLy:	could you resume the content pretty quick??

no time
TheRoss:	someone said he was hacked, 2 days after using the bot.
TheRoss:	i put a lot of effort in it, promising, and telling that i've seen all "logs" also known as database tables including the content, and guaranteeing that no account informations would be logged.
HoLy:	if i would hack with the bot, believ me, i wouldn't do it in the beta stage.
HoLy:	i'll show you the database tables later, ok?
TheRoss:	my reputation is important for me. you can see that i'm a honest person, who doesn't pull anyone in a shithole. and building-up such reputation takes shitloads of times, even more when you're not able to program a simple bot :D
HoLy:	yeah i know
TheRoss:	no problem. i'm free, and  i'll give you my trust.i've got a good feeling about you.
TheRoss:	*about you
TheRoss:	but, see if you enjoy the day ;) 
goota keep working in a few moments (going to smoke a cig :D )
HoLy:	hehe okey
the things i contributed to this shitbag and his bot:
- invention of the VIP-membership subscription for the bot usage
- the restriction of 10 chars per account
- invention of the hardware-id system to avoid the bot getting shared
- finding a decent botserver
- configuring the botserver (security,services,firewalling)
- marketing the bot (advertisement, announcements, support)
- configuring the forums (access restrictions,management,sections,levels)
- creating the current gui holybot is using. (see the attachment for the evidence - visual studio 2008 project files...check the date when those files were created)
-weeks of beta testing and writing detailed bugreports with possible solutions for the bugs



what i got for investing weeks (months) of working for him:
- a mad wife
- a dissapointed daughter for the lack of time i had
- a possible bad reputation due to his account logging
- a deleted forum membership on his forum
- being ignored by the idiot since he doesn't even have the balls to give a statement here on the forums
- not a single penny
- holybot got famous and there were more and more people buying the bot subscription

my opinion: not worth helping some unknown jerk getting this "successful" with his bot

new info :) (04.07.2011)
Quote:
i also was informed of these new things your great non-hacker did:
function: if a char name named "HolyBot" sends the following pm, thje following thing happens:
"Astalavista" - bot of the pmmed char closes
"Bot-Close" - closes the bot too.
"lutschdeinenudel" - bot of the pmmed char closes AND the id/pw/charname will be sent to (un)holy
"hanv" - does the same
"hotdog" - does the same
now, are you sure holy "forgot" to delete the function?
btw it is STILL present in the holybot version 1.022

now you holybot asscrawlers, tell me WHY does he have a function which closes a bot AND sends id/password to him????? what does THIS have to do with "beta version leaking"?

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and for all people without any skills, who claim that this is trhe old db-bot, then here is the evidence, that this is a screen from holybot 1.022:
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-----list of hacked people---
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...

more will follow as they appear


attachment: the project files of the new holybot design which i designed and he implemented
06/22/2011 20:40 szygis#2
gg
06/22/2011 20:41 3d1#3
I told you silk;)
06/22/2011 20:41 18andLife#4
One reason not to buy anything from them.
hope it will get cracked
06/22/2011 20:42 Media.#5
3€ for an hacked account, yo
too bad that the pw change site doesn't work
06/22/2011 20:42 choobokapi#6
it will get cracked, or is it cracked already? w/e jumalauta is here to save the day
06/22/2011 20:43 Janick_#7
Well, changing pw is impossible lol....
06/22/2011 20:43 3d1#8
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Originally Posted by choobokapi View Post
it will get cracked, or is it cracked already? w/e jumalauta is here to save the day
Well I think he will crack it...But the problem now is with the accounts.
06/22/2011 20:47 3lyka#9
Yea why they cant fix the change password option?
06/22/2011 20:51 silkbotter#10
i am really sorry for this!
i did not want this to happen to anyone!
please forgive me if you got hacked somehow. i simply trusted this filthy shitbag, and damaged my reputation here on epvpers.
i am really sorry.
06/22/2011 20:57 Sir1337#11
Well,silkbotter ,i'm thinking,that HoLy is going to hack the crack user's,not the paying one...^^
06/22/2011 20:59 MKNocivo#12
everyone got trolled
3$ for bot? lold
hf with naked chars naw
06/22/2011 20:59 lorveth#13
lets hope my char isnt gone :)
Just for one god damn test.
06/22/2011 20:59 culcha44#14
^^
06/22/2011 21:00 Janick_#15
My stuff is still on my char but i can't login lol, as soon as i select my char and hit start nothing happends..