[Poll] Packet/Proxy/General coding learning units

06/18/2011 01:16 pro4never#1
Ok so I decided to give this a thread so it gets more than like 2 replies. I was bored yesterday and someone with impeccable timing was asking me questions about proxies... as a result I built them a proxy base source over team viewer while explaining what each thing sorta 'did'. I recorded most of it but as it took me a couple hours of going afk/coming back and fighting with me needing to remember all the steps, the videos would be far too large and boring for anyone here to make much use of.

I'm toying with the concept though of posting the BASE proxy with as many commented sections as possible and then go through with videos and text documents writing simple 'learning units' such as... logging your first packets, structuring your first packets, turning packets into botting functionality. I'm not really sure if I wanna put that much time into something that's mostly just on a whim of mine especially when so few people on epvp are really willing to put the time in required to properly learn things.

So, this calls for the poll! Basically my question is this.


Would you be interested in a BASE proxy with a number of learning units guiding you through from proxy framework to workable bot?

Secondary question which always begs being asked... Would you be willing to pay/donate for such a thing... I'm sure few if any would be but any time something would take hours and hours of work (lets face it... each lesson would prob take me 2-6 hours depending on the length by the time I write it all up, record it, edit the video, upload it, write the supporting documents, etc) is mitigated by having a life.. money is always a nice encouragement to waste time on a project like this.
06/18/2011 02:46 vecko12#2
Sure... Thats my Environmental desire :)

- Actions speak louder than words...
Rome was not built in a day ~ any great plan or big dream cannot be achieved overnight...

Take your time
^ Good Luck!
06/18/2011 17:44 retarted_warlord#3
Mhm, that would be pretty awesome. I can only pay by phone tho. XP
06/18/2011 21:23 Real~Death#4
good idea
I've used your current source for A while
(up intell clientless minebotting,then i scraped using my/your own)


but it's your choice,nice work and always love an open source project


and about free or donate
I've always dontated to non-public stuff that was usefull
but would consider,A donation of possibly $5-$10(i will continue to buy a proxy to mine bot,but a good source will be something fun to play with)
but my guess would be most won't donate,so don't get discouraged
06/19/2011 01:01 tkblackbelt#5
I would appreciate something like this. I came close to making my own proxy in java but I couldn't get the dhkey exchange to work properly so the encryption wasn't correct. I playing around with it for a while but decided to take a break and am currently learning c++. I would donate like $10-15 though paypal for something like this.

Edit: Just tried making a new proxy and so far I'm able to log in perfectly through it, just gotta setup the dhkey so I can decrypt the packets. If you want once I am able to decrypt them I could make some sort of packet logging/analyzing gui for it, so people(including myself) can learn about packets.

Edit2: Woot I can decrypt the packets now xD!!!
06/19/2011 12:53 InfamousNoone#6
In all honesty THERE IS NO POINT in making a proxy anymore for Conquer. If you're making it for private servers, then that's perfectly fine and all but if not I'd honestly consider buying COFarmer. It has such an extensive API to use for building bots and not to manage all the logic is already coded such as cross-map path finding, keeping track of entities, etc.

With the plugin system, you can code your own extensions to the bot with pretty much any OOP language that supports .NET
06/19/2011 14:48 pro4never#7
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Originally Posted by InfamousNoone View Post
In all honesty THERE IS NO POINT in making a proxy anymore for Conquer. If you're making it for private servers, then that's perfectly fine and all but if not I'd honestly consider buying COFarmer. It has such an extensive API to use for building bots and not to manage all the logic is already coded such as cross-map path finding, keeping track of entities, etc.

With the plugin system, you can code your own extensions to the bot with pretty much any OOP language that supports .NET
I've always been a huge fan of yours but I think in this case you're kinda missing the point.


For me at least, when it comes to conquer programming it has nothing to do with the end result and more so to do with learning while doing something that can be 'useful'.

Obviously no free bot or series of guides is going to give you some uber bot that rivals payed, professional proxies.... but this entire thread has nothing to do with making a bot.

It's about taking a subject that seems to be quite interesting to a lot of people on the forum and taking what knowledge I've been able to learn so far and turn it into a project that people can use to take themselves from basic coding knowledge to the point where they can actually DO something with it.
06/19/2011 23:29 InfamousNoone#8
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Originally Posted by pro4never View Post
I've always been a huge fan of yours but I think in this case you're kinda missing the point.


For me at least, when it comes to conquer programming it has nothing to do with the end result and more so to do with learning while doing something that can be 'useful'.

Obviously no free bot or series of guides is going to give you some uber bot that rivals payed, professional proxies.... but this entire thread has nothing to do with making a bot.

It's about taking a subject that seems to be quite interesting to a lot of people on the forum and taking what knowledge I've been able to learn so far and turn it into a project that people can use to take themselves from basic coding knowledge to the point where they can actually DO something with it.
If your guide is targeted at making just a proxy, and just that and teaching the networking knowledge and know-how needed to do it then I suppose it will be genuinely useful.

If it's targeted at just programming the logic for bots (which you've seem to indicate it is not) then like I said -> CoF API = win.