A little IDEA

03/27/2011 14:41 kris941#1
So,i got a little idea here and i want to find out is it somethin realistic or just a dream :) So from what i see most of the things in silkroad are based on "packets" and i was wondering when a char gets exp does he gets some specific packets and IF yes then cant those packets be redirected ? I mean lets say a 90 lv char kills a 88 mob and gets 220 k of exp.So these 220k exp i guess are send by a packet and if we could redirect that packet to another char ? I got no idea about things like C++ , C# and delphi and i got no idea how silkroad works thats why i ask this question,dont be tuff on me :)
HAVE FUN ALL ;)
03/27/2011 14:43 vorosmihaly#2
nope,it's not possible.
03/27/2011 14:44 evelknievel10#3
Sorry to say that, but it is not possible
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fu vorosmihaly was faster ^^
03/27/2011 14:46 kris941#4
You broke my dreams xD... well OK thx anyway :)
03/27/2011 14:48 lesderid#5
You could make it look like the character got 200k EXP but when you relog, it will be gone.
03/27/2011 14:51 kris941#6
Ok so anyone got any good idea of manipulating the server using these packets no matter how hard it is?Im just intrested in seeing a realistic idea no matter how hard it is :)
03/27/2011 16:01 Mai_1337#7
Yes like lesderid said u can send those packets making it look you get more exp but it's only clientsided so has no efect on database or anything else
03/28/2011 20:50 silkbotter#8
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Originally Posted by kris941 View Post
Ok so anyone got any good idea of manipulating the server using these packets no matter how hard it is?Im just intrested in seeing a realistic idea no matter how hard it is :)
the server is the teacher.
the clients are the students.
if you manipulate the informations the teacher sends to the students, the only thing that will change is the "knowledge" thew students have. if they write an exam, they'll fail.

in a short meaning: the packets the server sends to the client, is to inform the client of what happened server-sided so the client can make the proper visual changes for you ;)
no way to do such big manipulation.



if you double-click a mob, you send a packet to the server "attack the mob with the id XXX"
the "fight" you see on your screen is the server who is sending packets to your client. packets like "char made a damage of 23" "char was hurt by 50hp from the mob" and stuff like this. nothing you can do on that.
i hope my explanation helped.
03/29/2011 07:39 lesderid#9
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Originally Posted by silkbotter View Post
the server is the teacher.
the clients are the students.
if you manipulate the informations the teacher sends to the students, the only thing that will change is the "knowledge" thew students have. if they write an exam, they'll fail.
Nice explanation.
03/30/2011 17:17 kris941#10
So if a player is intrested in manipulating the server in his favor he basicly has nothing to do with the packets.He is gona aim at the database and the packets just show the results to the diffrent clients.I mean if the database say`s a char "xxx" is level 90 packets do their job and inform all the clients that char is 90 lv and manipulating the packets will only tell the clients false information.So if (lets not think how lets say it just happend) someone changes the data base and that char "xxx" witch is lv 90 and the "hacker" makes the char 100 lv the packets will just follow what the data base says and inform the clients that the same char is 100 lv and he rly is...Dang its more complicated than it looks.
Ok,tnx for all the info i rly like people like you guys :) Last question : If a guy tries to get in the lets say Zszc main server and database and wants to change something HOW is he going to get there ? We all watched those movies were people hack what ever they want BUT what is actually the real thing a hacker will do ? HOW you get in someone`s PC (even if the other guy doesnt want to) and manage to change something ? Im realy curious how the whole thing works :) If you answer me this not the exact things you have to do but just the way it happends id love it :)
Cheers,all :)
03/30/2011 19:38 silkbotter#11
hacking isn'Ät something you learn.
hacking is an art.
hacking includes using all types of computing. you need to be good at everything. you need to understand the whole world of it including networking, communications, data packets, data packet structures, handshakes etc etc etc.
forget everything you have seen on tv about "hacking". there is no fancy 3d-cube-gui stuff that gets naked each "level" you hack deeper into it.

there will nobody "teaching" you how to hack. there is no way to "teach" hacking.
and if these monopoly crapchinks make about 250.000 $ a year with their files, you'll be sure they know how to protect their monopolies.
can't help you on that one. sorry.
03/30/2011 19:57 kris941#12
Are you cappable of hacking something even if its not that good protected ?
03/30/2011 20:07 vorosmihaly#13
well,you can be a good hacker if you have a huge knowledge and you're good at those things which your target is using,so you can understand how your target's protection is working.


@kris941
yea,you are,for example you can inject sql into a form which isn't protected against sql injecting and things like that,but you need to know that how the sql server/sql query works.
I hope you get what I mean..
03/30/2011 20:18 evolution007#14
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Originally Posted by silkbotter View Post
hacking isn'Ät something you learn.
hacking is an art.
hacking includes using all types of computing. you need to be good at everything. you need to understand the whole world of it including networking, communications, data packets, data packet structures, handshakes etc etc etc.
forget everything you have seen on tv about "hacking". there is no fancy 3d-cube-gui stuff that gets naked each "level" you hack deeper into it.

there will nobody "teaching" you how to hack. there is no way to "teach" hacking.
and if these monopoly crapchinks make about 250.000 $ a year with their files, you'll be sure they know how to protect their monopolies.
can't help you on that one. sorry.
you are wrong! atm im searching for university in whole europe and in one Engalnd university i saw hacking studies [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]
03/30/2011 20:20 kris941#15
Atm im not shure can a guy become a hacker or not xD 1 guy says yes other no both look pretty informated about the subject so i`ll wait untill furture notice.

BTW so the sql injection if its a succses what do i win from that what does it do it penetrate`s a targets PC and gives me full accses to everything ever done on that PC ?