LMAO! I remember that was what thief groups resorted to when there were only 1* trades happening back in the old days of 2006. Here is how it went... You cross the ferry and see a thief waiting, he says "Shit, only a 1* trade that I can't kill and rob." You reply back, "Too many thiefs today and I can't find a Hunter to go with me, so I only do 1*" A minute later his buddy that has been sitting back out of sight comes over, he is likely 10~20 levels higher than you and 1-hit kills your trade transport and you using pk. While you lay on the ground cursing and yelling at them, pounding your desk, they laugh and call you noob while waiting for the thief town transport scroll to finish. The thief helps his buddy later to get rid of murder status. We had a few players in Akatsuki thief guild on RedSea server that used this, one of the most infamous ones, GameOver, who gave us a bad name. Eventually we kicked him and he was picked up by Fr33sTylerZ. BTW, thank you for the information on Cr7, who seemed to be interested in me joining his guild, which I WILL NOT DO NOW! I prefer to be a fun times thief and have been know to ride along with some traders and hunters that have made me laugh with their pleas to not kill them; protecting them from other thieves who may not have the sense of humor that I do. Also, remember that this is old-school "triangular conflict" system and someone that is a hunter on a trade with you can be in a thief suit 10 minutes later....... "Wait here, I have to take this phone call, I'll be back in about 10 minutes" :-D