Eastmile | International Server - Act 9: Undercity

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Originally Posted by InnoTx is it enough to delete the entire Eastmile folder to get out of this scam shit or what would you recommend now? Thank you for this important information

Since it is only active when the game is running, yes. You're not being spied on as long as your Eastmile client isn't running

Me realising I spend so many hours afk in nosville with eastmile minimised doing lots of shit :wojak:

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Originally Posted by InnoTx is it enough to delete the entire Eastmile folder to get out of this scam shit or what would you recommend now? Thank you for this important information

I didn't analyze all of their files, but as far as I it should be enough to just delete/turn off the game, at least for the thing with photos.

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Originally Posted by WalrossGreat I didn't analyze all of their files, but as far as I it should be enough to just delete/turn off the game, at least for the thing with photos.

first of all thank you that you publish that. i mean i saw many things by this Community / Servers but this is fckin disgusting shit and i cant realize this that a Server with a big community doing this ... if there is more information that they go in the privacy of the players please tell it us even if this thread get delete just open a new thread if there is any kind of important thing.

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Originally Posted by WalrossGreat I've heard that there is some kind of "anticheat" built into this server, so I wanted to take a look. I think that my findings may be quite interesting, because as far as I see this is not publicly known information. So basically, the anticheat installs two new recv packet handlers, one seems to reply with the heartbeat, the second one is a bit more interesting. Basically it takes a photo of all of your screens. So lets say your Eastmile client is minimized, you are watching youtube, making transfers on your bank account, no matter what else, Eastmile anticheat still can take a photo. What will happen next? Well, the photo is stored on your drive just for a moment, just to... send it over FTP to their servers. But there comes the best part of the story. Anyone can login to the FTP server using the same credentials embedded into the anticheat and view photos of all players. In case anyone wants to verify this information, this should be enough for you to start on: File: EWSF.EWS [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

Im very shocked and thankful Walross.

That hurts all players of Eastmile in their privacy very hard.. Imagine watching porn & Eastmile knows, oh my gawd.

We are humans, we do alot of stupid things & they capture it.

I want a Votekick of this Server from this Website.

Edit : Imagine too you have nudes from your girlfriend or idk and they use it for meh..

I'm such a pervert to think about it, but i dont fucking care.

DONT WATCH MY GF PICS :c xd (no i didn't open those when i had eastmile running)

Hello EPVP community.

We will try to explain in a correct and brief way what is happening due current riots happened around here.

Yes. We have systems in place to fight illegal programs, which allow us to block any rogue applications or any attempt to modify any process in the game to take advantage of it. In addition, this system took screenshots for a few seconds before the automatic ban occurred, to make checks manually, but **only in strictly necessary cases where an automatic ban occurs, and only while the game remained open**.

No. We do not store these captures to steal your personal data such as passwords, conversations, etc. We use this method where we take screenshots so that we can compare it to a list of cheat apps and have Eastmile free of cheats.

The total number of accounts affected by this has been less than 30, many of them owned by the same owner, so the percentage of affected players has been infimum, given that there are a total of almost 17,000 accounts, around 3,000 total active accounts (with activity on the last month), and only less than 30 of them have been affected, and all of them from an automatic ban for the use of illegal programs that modify the Eastmile client.

We do not like to allow players cheating in our game where others take their time and effort to support and donate on the server, in addition to players who decide to stay in Eastmile creating the community that we have achieved over all these years, we all know that there have been moments better and worse, but we have always moved on, and it is precisely because we really care about our community and that we can continue to move forward together.

If you are a player like any other, you should not have any concern, since the only objective of this system (Anti-cheat) has been to be able to have, as we said above, a space free of cheats since the privacy of any normal user has never been compromised at Eastmile with this system. We give our word that only users who have tried to break or take advantage of something in the game, their privacy has been compromised ONLY for the aforementioned functionality to be able to block them from our game as indicated by the Game Rules and maintain a fair game from cheating.

Since we understand that this functionality may concern some users although they would only be affected if they use illegal programs within the game, we have permanently deactivated this system permanently, as well as eliminated all content from the compromised FTP server.

We also understand that suddenly finding out about this from third parties without any type of context has put you on alarm, but that system was used very rarely for very special cases, and all the players who are in Eastmile every day can confirm that you have not had absolutely no problems with this issue and your privacy has not been compromised, so you can rest assured.

We would appreciate your understanding that we are not trying to steal your files, record your screen, steal bank details, steal passwords, view conversations, etc. or do anything that could harm you. Your safety is paramount to us, as well as appreciating your efforts within the game in which we take care to prohibit players who illegally use cheats to take advantage. This is a small project and we have tried with this system to ensure playability for all users. We are just trying to keep this game going against a group that is (still) doing their best to destroy it.

In addition, the people who have had access to the storage of these screenshots have done so illegally, hacking our client to get the encrypted private credentials of the FTP server to which only Salu had access. Part of the NosWings team has used this as a marketing strategy to harm their current biggest competition on the eve of the opening of their server, a rather dirty strategy on their part, even probably knowing that we have never done or would do anything that would harm our users, they have decided to give the dirtiest image possible of this situation.

Having said this, we sincerely thank the players who continue to support the server and make it a great community, compared to the small group of users who have recently entered the community Discord channels only to create discomfort, create hoaxes and sow chaos. thinking that they can act without impunity, taking advantage of the situation to discredit our work and step on the trust that the players and the team have mutually placed in Eastmile.



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Maybe letting the players know that you have such a system that take screenshots even if they just need to worry about it when they are indeed using cheats would been nice.:kekw:
If this didn't got exposed you would still use such a system without telling anyone that you have it, taking screenshots of someone else desktop still highly illegal regardless of doing it as a security system. :lul:

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Originally Posted by VSalu Hello EPVP community. We will try to explain in a correct and brief way what is happening due current riots happened around here. Yes. We have systems in place to fight illegal programs, which allow us to block any rogue applications or any attempt to modify any process in the game to take advantage of it. In addition, this system took screenshots for a few seconds before the automatic ban occurred, to make checks manually, but **only in strictly necessary cases where an automatic ban occurs, and only while the game remained open**. No. We do not store these captures to steal your personal data such as passwords, conversations, etc. We use this method where we take screenshots so that we can compare it to a list of cheat apps and have Eastmile free of cheats. The total number of accounts affected by this has been less than 30, many of them owned by the same owner, so the percentage of affected players has been infimum, given that there are a total of almost 17,000 accounts, around 3,000 total active accounts (with activity on the last month), and only less than 30 of them have been affected, and all of them from an automatic ban for the use of illegal programs that modify the Eastmile client. We do not like to allow players cheating in our game where others take their time and effort to support and donate on the server, in addition to players who decide to stay in Eastmile creating the community that we have achieved over all these years, we all know that there have been moments better and worse, but we have always moved on, and it is precisely because we really care about our community and that we can continue to move forward together. If you are a player like any other, you should not have any concern, since the only objective of this system (Anti-cheat) has been to be able to have, as we said above, a space free of cheats since the privacy of any normal user has never been compromised at Eastmile with this system. We give our word that only users who have tried to break or take advantage of something in the game, their privacy has been compromised ONLY for the aforementioned functionality to be able to block them from our game as indicated by the Game Rules and maintain a fair game from cheating. Since we understand that this functionality may concern some users although they would only be affected if they use illegal programs within the game, we have permanently deactivated this system permanently, as well as eliminated all content from the compromised FTP server. We also understand that suddenly finding out about this from third parties without any type of context has put you on alarm, but that system was used very rarely for very special cases, and all the players who are in Eastmile every day can confirm that you have not had absolutely no problems with this issue and your privacy has not been compromised, so you can rest assured. We would appreciate your understanding that we are not trying to steal your files, record your screen, steal bank details, steal passwords, view conversations, etc. or do anything that could harm you. Your safety is paramount to us, as well as appreciating your efforts within the game in which we take care to prohibit players who illegally use cheats to take advantage. This is a small project and we have tried with this system to ensure playability for all users. We are just trying to keep this game going against a group that is (still) doing their best to destroy it. In addition, the people who have had access to the storage of these screenshots have done so illegally, hacking our client to get the encrypted private credentials of the FTP server to which only Salu had access. Part of the NosWings team has used this as a marketing strategy to harm their current biggest competition on the eve of the opening of their server, a rather dirty strategy on their part, even probably knowing that we have never done or would do anything that would harm our users, they have decided to give the dirtiest image possible of this situation. Having said this, we sincerely thank the players who continue to support the server and make it a great community, compared to the small group of users who have recently entered the community Discord channels only to create discomfort, create hoaxes and sow chaos. thinking that they can act without impunity, taking advantage of the situation to discredit our work and step on the trust that the players and the team have mutually placed in Eastmile. @[Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] If you need any of our source codes or anything, do not hesitate to ask me for it.

Not gonna lie, this is total bullshit.

You cannot justify having MALICIOUS code that can run on any of your player's client. Even if it's "only 30 people" (tbh, kinda hard to believe, but yeah ok), you're still collecting personnal data, whether you use it or not is none of player's concern.

About the fact that NosWings "hacked" your client or whatever, just using ghidra or any other tool does the job, the function can be found and the id/passwords have a simple XOR on them. Wow. Much protection. Anyone with malicious intent could have accessed your ftp and I don't know what else.

Blaming NosWings when you are the server stealing data because "gneugneu, we don't want cheaters" is bullshit. Ban the players, fine. Don't take screen captures that might contain sensitive data such as private conversations or credentials.

P.S: Oh, I see you have emptied your FTP folder, it's still online though

Good thing is you can upload anything you want! That's op safety in there

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Well, in my opinion (and i think i share it with alot other people)
Having a Anti-Cheat is a great thing, everyone should have it.
Still you are doing something wrong. While you take a fkn screenshot of the Desktop of other people (and you could at any time, because i also reversed some other dll's also understood the EW DLL) is a highly forbidden thing as you take a sneak into others privacy.
On a bad moment, many people are using PayPal, and need to see their Password because they maybe typed it wrongly. U'd see that.
Maybe someone logged in into their Bank Account and has invisible letters off. U'd see that.
Maybe someone has a intense call via Skype/Discord using a Camera with his/her girl-/boyfriend. U'd see that.

I am very ashamed that u took it this far.
Eastmile should be stopped as this is a CRIME

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Originally Posted by VSalu Hello EPVP community. We will try to explain in a correct and brief way what is happening due current riots happened around here. Yes. We have systems in place to fight illegal programs, which allow us to block any rogue applications or any attempt to modify any process in the game to take advantage of it. In addition, this system took screenshots for a few seconds before the automatic ban occurred, to make checks manually, but **only in strictly necessary cases where an automatic ban occurs, and only while the game remained open**. No. We do not store these captures to steal your personal data such as passwords, conversations, etc. We use this method where we take screenshots so that we can compare it to a list of cheat apps and have Eastmile free of cheats. The total number of accounts affected by this has been less than 30, many of them owned by the same owner, so the percentage of affected players has been infimum, given that there are a total of almost 17,000 accounts, around 3,000 total active accounts (with activity on the last month), and only less than 30 of them have been affected, and all of them from an automatic ban for the use of illegal programs that modify the Eastmile client. We do not like to allow players cheating in our game where others take their time and effort to support and donate on the server, in addition to players who decide to stay in Eastmile creating the community that we have achieved over all these years, we all know that there have been moments better and worse, but we have always moved on, and it is precisely because we really care about our community and that we can continue to move forward together. If you are a player like any other, you should not have any concern, since the only objective of this system (Anti-cheat) has been to be able to have, as we said above, a space free of cheats since the privacy of any normal user has never been compromised at Eastmile with this system. We give our word that only users who have tried to break or take advantage of something in the game, their privacy has been compromised ONLY for the aforementioned functionality to be able to block them from our game as indicated by the Game Rules and maintain a fair game from cheating. Since we understand that this functionality may concern some users although they would only be affected if they use illegal programs within the game, we have permanently deactivated this system permanently, as well as eliminated all content from the compromised FTP server. We also understand that suddenly finding out about this from third parties without any type of context has put you on alarm, but that system was used very rarely for very special cases, and all the players who are in Eastmile every day can confirm that you have not had absolutely no problems with this issue and your privacy has not been compromised, so you can rest assured. We would appreciate your understanding that we are not trying to steal your files, record your screen, steal bank details, steal passwords, view conversations, etc. or do anything that could harm you. Your safety is paramount to us, as well as appreciating your efforts within the game in which we take care to prohibit players who illegally use cheats to take advantage. This is a small project and we have tried with this system to ensure playability for all users. We are just trying to keep this game going against a group that is (still) doing their best to destroy it. In addition, the people who have had access to the storage of these screenshots have done so illegally, hacking our client to get the encrypted private credentials of the FTP server to which only Salu had access. Part of the NosWings team has used this as a marketing strategy to harm their current biggest competition on the eve of the opening of their server, a rather dirty strategy on their part, even probably knowing that we have never done or would do anything that would harm our users, they have decided to give the dirtiest image possible of this situation. Having said this, we sincerely thank the players who continue to support the server and make it a great community, compared to the small group of users who have recently entered the community Discord channels only to create discomfort, create hoaxes and sow chaos. thinking that they can act without impunity, taking advantage of the situation to discredit our work and step on the trust that the players and the team have mutually placed in Eastmile. @[Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] If you need any of our source codes or anything, do not hesitate to ask me for it.

Imagine calling a FTP Connection secure. You can Sniff Username/Password because its plaintext.

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Originally Posted by FI0w Imagine calling a FTP Connection secure. You can Sniff Username/Password because its plaintext.

Imagine having credentials client side*

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Originally Posted by VSalu Hello EPVP community. We will try to explain in a correct and brief way what is happening due current riots happened around here. Yes. We have systems in place to fight illegal programs, which allow us to block any rogue applications or any attempt to modify any process in the game to take advantage of it. In addition, this system took screenshots for a few seconds before the automatic ban occurred, to make checks manually, but **only in strictly necessary cases where an automatic ban occurs, and only while the game remained open**. No. We do not store these captures to steal your personal data such as passwords, conversations, etc. We use this method where we take screenshots so that we can compare it to a list of cheat apps and have Eastmile free of cheats. The total number of accounts affected by this has been less than 30, many of them owned by the same owner, so the percentage of affected players has been infimum, given that there are a total of almost 17,000 accounts, around 3,000 total active accounts (with activity on the last month), and only less than 30 of them have been affected, and all of them from an automatic ban for the use of illegal programs that modify the Eastmile client. We do not like to allow players cheating in our game where others take their time and effort to support and donate on the server, in addition to players who decide to stay in Eastmile creating the community that we have achieved over all these years, we all know that there have been moments better and worse, but we have always moved on, and it is precisely because we really care about our community and that we can continue to move forward together. If you are a player like any other, you should not have any concern, since the only objective of this system (Anti-cheat) has been to be able to have, as we said above, a space free of cheats since the privacy of any normal user has never been compromised at Eastmile with this system. We give our word that only users who have tried to break or take advantage of something in the game, their privacy has been compromised ONLY for the aforementioned functionality to be able to block them from our game as indicated by the Game Rules and maintain a fair game from cheating. Since we understand that this functionality may concern some users although they would only be affected if they use illegal programs within the game, we have permanently deactivated this system permanently, as well as eliminated all content from the compromised FTP server. We also understand that suddenly finding out about this from third parties without any type of context has put you on alarm, but that system was used very rarely for very special cases, and all the players who are in Eastmile every day can confirm that you have not had absolutely no problems with this issue and your privacy has not been compromised, so you can rest assured. We would appreciate your understanding that we are not trying to steal your files, record your screen, steal bank details, steal passwords, view conversations, etc. or do anything that could harm you. Your safety is paramount to us, as well as appreciating your efforts within the game in which we take care to prohibit players who illegally use cheats to take advantage. This is a small project and we have tried with this system to ensure playability for all users. We are just trying to keep this game going against a group that is (still) doing their best to destroy it. In addition, the people who have had access to the storage of these screenshots have done so illegally, hacking our client to get the encrypted private credentials of the FTP server to which only Salu had access. Part of the NosWings team has used this as a marketing strategy to harm their current biggest competition on the eve of the opening of their server, a rather dirty strategy on their part, even probably knowing that we have never done or would do anything that would harm our users, they have decided to give the dirtiest image possible of this situation. Having said this, we sincerely thank the players who continue to support the server and make it a great community, compared to the small group of users who have recently entered the community Discord channels only to create discomfort, create hoaxes and sow chaos. thinking that they can act without impunity, taking advantage of the situation to discredit our work and step on the trust that the players and the team have mutually placed in Eastmile. @[Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] If you need any of our source codes or anything, do not hesitate to ask me for it.

So, in your opinion, cheaters does not deserve the same privacy as normal user? Good point, that's not how it works, maybe in your kid world, but everyone deserve the same privacy/security concerns.
I don't think taking a screenshot of the ENTIRE desktop of any user that would use cheat software of any kind is normal.
But this is not the only problem, the problem is that your files were containing a direct access (aka credentials) to the FTP (plain text protocol) where you upload the screenshots that your software captured as @[Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] said, anyone with some reverse engineering skills could see that and would trigger and gain access to your own FTP server.
Even thought this is not right at all, you did not even warn your users about that thing that you are doing


If you can't secure your users correctly.


Again from your says, someone that reverse engineered is more illegal than you, taking pictures of people's desktop without their consent? That's bullshit, what you are doing completely against your user's privacy and security.


Last thing, yes, I used this as "marketing" if you call it so, we care about our user's privacy and security, whatever they did, even thought they try to cheat (and trust me, a lot of people tried to cheat in Open Beta).


But I see no competition in your server, the only two servers that I see as a competition are the official server and NosByte,
Official server is just official and maintained by professionals even thought they are doing shit
NosByte, despite that we had some different goals with Elendan, Elendan is still someone that I believe skilled enough to manage a good project
Your server lags, crash, seems to be badly game-designed and balanced but whatever, that's your server and we have different definition of what a good project is, user security is apart of that "good project" criteria that we have.

I've got an anticheat idea, we kill all the cheaters (effective 100%). If you don't cheat you don't need to be scared as we just kill the cheaters.

You will think that killing people is illegal but I just killed 30 users and we have almost 3k of them still active!

Also people is using this as a marketing call-to-action, they are all very bad. Remember that they got the information that I am a murderer by spying my phone

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Originally Posted by Blowa So, in your opinion, cheaters does not deserve the same privacy as normal user? Good point, that's not how it works, maybe in your kid world, but everyone deserve the same privacy/security concerns. I don't think taking a screenshot of the ENTIRE desktop of any user that would use cheat software of any kind is normal. But this is not the only problem, the problem is that your files were containing a direct access (aka credentials) to the FTP (plain text protocol) where you upload the screenshots that your software captured as @[Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] said, anyone with some reverse engineering skills could see that and would trigger and gain access to your own FTP server. Even thought this is not right at all, you did not even warn your users about that thing that you are doing If you can't secure your users correctly. Again from your says, someone that reverse engineered is more illegal than you, taking pictures of people's desktop without their consent? That's bullshit, what you are doing completely against your user's privacy and security. Last thing, yes, I used this as "marketing" if you call it so, we care about our user's privacy and security, whatever they did, even thought they try to cheat (and trust me, a lot of people tried to cheat in Open Beta). But I see no competition in your server, the only two servers that I see as a competition are the official server and NosByte, Official server is just official and maintained by professionals even thought they are doing shit NosByte, despite that we had some different goals with Elendan, Elendan is still someone that I believe skilled enough to manage a good project Your server lags, crash, seems to be badly game-designed and balanced but whatever, that's your server and we have different definition of what a good project is, user security is apart of that "good project" criteria that we have.

Given the fact that his text says almost "we need to handle cheaters differently". Injecting a DLL into the Client.exe makes you a professional hacker which is worth taking a screenshot of your desktop of.
I see.