[Beta] Conquer Online DMap Editor

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Originally Posted by CptSky I'm a monkey ? :(

Poor example, but I hope I got my point across. :\

inb4 we can invite artists.
inb4 you'd need an entirely separate section then.

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Originally Posted by lostsolder05 Which of course you have access to. :rolleyes: IMO putting it in UG would be silly. Why would you put it in a subsection that contains almost no artists? That's like putting a bunch of monkeys on a computer and telling them to design a logo. Lol.

Literally anyone with the slightest bit of dedication or productive contribution to the co community has or can easily get access to the underground.


It's basically a 'hey, you have the slightest clue what you're doing and aren't an asshole' section.

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Originally Posted by lostsolder05 inb4 we can invite artists. inb4 you'd need an entirely separate section then.

Anyone capable or showing the dedication to put the tool to good use should easily have underground access. Why would they also want a bunch of random people spamming 'how is use tool?!' and a bunch of leaked/half finished/shitty map edits running around on top100 servers?

The drawbacks of having it underground are actually positives really. Reducing the number of shitty edits people have to put up with.

@pro4never Very true. However I feel the tool won't be utilized enough as it is and with the limitation of underground ( regardless of how 'easy' it is ) will hinder it even further. Personally I'd go with a one time fee or a free version that has limitations. Not only does that give him the liberty of giving out free copies to more respected members, but it also gives him the benefit of controlling who has a copy.

I tend to lean in Chris's direction. If anyone in the community is capable of managing a server and bringing together a talented and dedicated development team, it's members from the underground or whoever Ultimation deems suitable. I'm not going to say he should go one way or the other, but things have gotten pretty bad around here. It's not my decision, but I rather not have the Trinity servers spamming some release thread about "3D maps".

Kinda sucks it wont be public.
I lost my UG access when they did the first sweep for inactivity.

I Rarely log into CO but always fun to come and screw with every once in a while.It's A fun testing area for new things to try out.

Was hoping to get to see this in action.

Glad the UG has some activity going on atleast.

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Originally Posted by Spirited I tend to lean in Chris's direction. If anyone in the community is capable of managing a server and bringing together a talented and dedicated development team, it's members from the underground or whoever Ultimation deems suitable. I'm not going to say he should go one way or the other, but things have gotten pretty bad around here. It's not my decision, but I rather not have the Trinity servers spamming some release thread about "3D maps".

Well.. You got UG access. I never got accepted. How many ppl are in the UG? How many of them are active?

I get your point but unless there will be more people allowed into UG i see no point in releasing it there for like idk 10 ppl?

Also'd like to know the requirements for UG. I didnt get access so the bar must be pretty high.

Afaik, there is a poll and the members decide who gets in.

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Originally Posted by turk55 Afaik, there is a poll and the members decide who gets in.

wasA poll system,If there was no major objections he was in.It was people who showed applied knowledge and could be trusted.

Trust not to leak or share was A main thing.I think the first leak only took a month or 2 when queen posted *M* conquer.exe on anothter site and claimed as her own.When that happened it turned the UG into a ghost town.Noone wanted to share much becuse of risk of leaks

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Originally Posted by Y u k i Well.. You got UG access. I never got accepted. How many ppl are in the UG? How many of them are active? I get your point but unless there will be more people allowed into UG i see no point in releasing it there for like idk 10 ppl? Also'd like to know the requirements for UG. I didnt get access so the bar must be pretty high.

Ironic isnt it?
Everyone complains that the community is dying, that there isn't much left here.
And alot of the senior members say the UG is the only hope the community has left.
But what hope is there if there is very few members that are barely active and they wont allow new members?

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Originally Posted by Aceking Ironic isnt it? Everyone complains that the community is dying, that there isn't much left here. And alot of the senior members say the UG is the only hope the community has left. But what hope is there if there is very few members that are barely active and they wont allow new members?

The UG allows new members, they just have to be capable, have contributed beforehand and can be trusted. If not then its a no, this pushes people into helping the community.

lol @ UG. Anyone still active on it? (I only remember it from ~ 2007 or so)

I'm using the Underground members as a type of people that I feel can be trusted. Really, that group of people is just whoever ultimation defines as trustworthy to use his tool appropriately.

Nice to know I'm not trusted or unworthy in your eyes. Kinda sad, I've been around since 8 years.

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Originally Posted by Y u k i Nice to know I'm not trusted or unworthy in your eyes. Kinda sad, I've been around since 8 years.

PM someone you know who is in the UG and have them put up A poll asking for you to get access.All someone has to do is vouch for you.

Really not an appropriate conversation for this thread, at all. I mean, complaining in plain sight really doesn't make me want to vouch for you. If you're interested, act appropriately and private message someone in the group. Anyways, Ultimation will do what he wants. If he decides to keep it with trustworthy people, I definitely support that; else, that's absolutely fine - it's his tool.