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Originally Posted by Almouhissen Over edit with cap 80, its not old school dude. [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]+[Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

Yeah modern old school.:mofo:

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Originally Posted by baskete Looking nice, just one question: How do you buy potions if you can't get gold drops?? Potions cost 1 gold? Also, you're wrong when you say trading is more dangerous than thieving. Fuck it if trading is dangerous or not, I can farm gold as a trader, I don't depend on anyone else. The opposite, however, is not true. In order for a thief to earn gold, he/she has to find a trade, kill all the people, robb the goods and survive till the teleport. Now, what's harder??????? Make thieving more rewarding than trading, or else, you have failed in your way of thinking. e.g.: 5* trade = 10m for trader/20m for thieves. Double thieving rates if you actually want any jobbing to happen or else everybody will be a trader and fuck the system :/

as i said before i will increase the thief profit.

Thanks for your positive comment.

Niiiiiiiiccccceeeeee !

I really don't like the int/str thing, where you can see other players stats, what if someone does a secret hybrid and dont want others to know.. seems gay

Edit: "As you progress, you will earn your set up to D8 with (+10) and full blue statistics granted."
Everyone gets +10 fb gear? dafuq? care to explain that

Still waiting for any replay to my question... Is force tree nerf? Other way the entire server will be force (mostly glaivers) and that would suck..

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Originally Posted by iSnoOze I really don't like the int/str thing, where you can see other players stats, what if someone does a secret hybrid and dont want others to know.. seems gay Edit: "As you progress, you will earn your set up to D8 with (+10) and full blue statistics granted." Everyone gets +10 fb gear? dafuq? care to explain that

Yeah, showing INT/STR is really stupid... useless/no meaning.

The +10 FB thing, I think that when he said up to D8 it means D1~D7... Which makes sense.

I still don't understand how are we supposed to buy potions/arrows if no gold is dropped... Everything is 1 gold? Vigors 25% disabled as well? Lotta questions, damn xD

Good luck;)
but try to adjust the thread.

Yah, force needs to be nerfed, impotant, 30% chance to land, decay/weaken 60%.

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Originally Posted by iSnoOze I really don't like the int/str thing, where you can see other players stats, what if someone does a secret hybrid and dont want others to know.. seems gay Edit: "As you progress, you will earn your set up to D8 with (+10) and full blue statistics granted." Everyone gets +10 fb gear? dafuq? care to explain that

Hello IsnoOze , I will try to answer your questions.

str/int point i already answered someone at preview pages.

From 1~7Degree is +10 and last degree is +5

We did not touch any skills, after game running smoothly we will fix and edit the skills.

We will open game for some hours as Best test.

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Originally Posted by baskete Yeah, showing INT/STR is really stupid... useless/no meaning. The +10 FB thing, I think that when he said up to D8 it means D1~D7... Which makes sense. I still don't understand how are we supposed to buy potions/arrows if no gold is dropped... Everything is 1 gold? Vigors 25% disabled as well? Lotta questions, damn xD

Vigors is disable and you will start with 10k package of potions , arrows is cheap 10k as i remember cost 1kgold

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Originally Posted by Herovans Indeed we didn't change anything related to skills. But we planing in future to balance the game if an build over power than other.

Do NOT do it in future, do it BEFORE you officially release the server, otherwise you will piss off people. It's known fact that force is OP, so you might start with it. Also, I see theres free 115% speed buff, what happened to speed potions and lightning ghost walk skill?

good job!

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Originally Posted by Possessive Do NOT do it in future, do it BEFORE you officially release the server, otherwise you will piss off people. It's known fact that force is OP, so you might start with it. Also, I see theres free 115% speed buff, what happened to speed potions and lightning ghost walk skill?

This!, If you open the server, everyone gets 80, and you nerf specific classes, you think people are gonna be happy? I've played this game for 7 years, I've played force on many servers, and servers where the debuffs are not lowered are OP and there is a over-population of a specific class (usually glavie force).

*Not related to quote*
Why on earth are you giving us final tier +5 items.... how is that even fun at all, i wanna work for my gear and make it myself not have you give it to me. Your server wont last long if you give us all the items for free, nothing to do, everyone will quit.

Edit: Checked every 12 pages in the thread and saw nothing about the stupid int/str scroll visible scroll things. repeat it please

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Originally Posted by iSnoOze This!, If you open the server, everyone gets 80, and you nerf specific classes, you think people are gonna be happy? I've played this game for 7 years, I've played force on many servers, and servers where the debuffs are not lowered are OP and there is a over-population of a specific class (usually glavie force). *Not related to quote* Why on earth are you giving us final tier +5 items.... how is that even fun at all, i wanna work for my gear and make it myself not have you give it to me. Your server wont last long if you give us all the items for free, nothing to do, everyone will quit. Edit: Checked every 12 pages in the thread and saw nothing about the stupid int/str scroll visible scroll things. repeat it please

Someone asked me same question about str/int:


Player:"Also this options to see another players stats.. So if some noobs see lets say a 1:5 hybrid be OP compared to full str alot of people gonna take that build.. no more fun"

Herovans:
-You are free to like or not like anything about our system, i was agree if you said those words 7~10 years ago while many of peoples was trying to figure out how to create a strong character.

All members at elitepvpers i think they created over 100 characters .


"Why on earth are you giving us final tier +5 items"

Let me clear it to you, the auto equipment gives 1~8D (Normal items).

But Moon items D8 at Sam store.

- Can you please write me the skills that we need reduce it?

I will sleep now some hours and check your post to edit the skills.

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Originally Posted by Possessive Do NOT do it in future, do it BEFORE you officially release the server, otherwise you will piss off people. It's known fact that force is OP, so you might start with it. Also, I see theres free 115% speed buff, what happened to speed potions and lightning ghost walk skill?

Speed Potions are disabled.

If we feel that 115% speed is too much we will decrease it or increase the speed for lighting ghost walk skill

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Originally Posted by Herovans Someone asked me same question about str/int: Player:"Also this options to see another players stats.. So if some noobs see lets say a 1:5 hybrid be OP compared to full str alot of people gonna take that build.. no more fun" Herovans: -You are free to like or not like anything about our system, i was agree if you said those words 7~10 years ago while many of peoples was trying to figure out how to create a strong character. All members at elitepvpers i think they created over 100 characters . "Why on earth are you giving us final tier +5 items" Let me clear it to you, the auto equipment gives 1~8D (Normal items). But Moon items D8 at Sam store. - Can you please write me the skills that we need reduce it? I will sleep now some hours and check your post to edit the skills. Speed Potions are disabled. If we feel that 115% speed is too much we will decrease it or increase the speed for lighting ghost walk skill

Well, S/S need to have the level 90 STAB skill (Asura Cut Blade -Level 80 Required), otherwise blader and s/s are really useless, and outmatched compared to other potential builds
Vital Spot Zero currently is 80% probability, should be reduced to 30-40% (Impotent)
Vital spot Mind/Body currently 80% probability, should be reduced to 60% or so. (Weaken/Decay)

Make Snow shield Adept require 180 or more INT to be able to use it
Make Snow shield Novice from 20-25% > 2-10%, meaning level 1= 2%, 2=4%, 3=6%, 4=8% and 5 (Max) = 10%. This will limit pvp's of retards by quite a large margin.

If you need any other help, feel free to PM me or add me on skype ;P

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Originally Posted by baskete Looking nice, just one question: How do you buy potions if you can't get gold drops?? Potions cost 1 gold? Also, you're wrong when you say trading is more dangerous than thieving. Fuck it if trading is dangerous or not, I can farm gold as a trader, I don't depend on anyone else. The opposite, however, is not true. In order for a thief to earn gold, he/she has to find a trade, kill all the people, robb the goods and survive till the teleport. Now, what's harder??????? Make thieving more rewarding than trading, or else, you have failed in your way of thinking. e.g.: 5* trade = 10m for trader/20m for thieves. Double thieving rates if you actually want any jobbing to happen or else everybody will be a trader and fuck the system :/

I Think if you check other servers you might see that there arnt Much Traders around for the thiefs lol Maybe Hes trying to get traders to Trade in stead that all of go to Thief and Stand at the gate the Hole Day waiting for 1 Trader do you think thats Fair Then But if you think thats fair there's somthing wrong with u :O

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Originally Posted by Herovans Someone asked me same question about str/int: Player:"Also this options to see another players stats.. So if some noobs see lets say a 1:5 hybrid be OP compared to full str alot of people gonna take that build.. no more fun" Herovans: -You are free to like or not like anything about our system, i was agree if you said those words 7~10 years ago while many of peoples was trying to figure out how to create a strong character. All members at elitepvpers i think they created over 100 characters.

I really can't understand your English here. It's not rocket science to guess if someone wielding a spear is a Pure STR or a Pure Int/Hybrid.
For real, totally useless this Int/Str stats buff and, as I've seen before, people that are proud of their different build MIGHT NOT play here because of this.

Just think about it for two seconds: what have you got to win with this? Nothing! Only to lose...

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Originally Posted by iSnoOze Well, S/S need to have the level 90 STAB skill (Asura Cut Blade -Level 80 Required), otherwise blader and s/s are really useless, and outmatched compared to other potential builds Vital Spot Zero currently is 80% probability, should be reduced to 30-40% (Impotent) Vital spot Mind/Body currently 80% probability, should be reduced to 60% or so. (Weaken/Decay) Make Snow shield Adept require 180 or more INT to be able to use it Make Snow shield Novice from 20-25% > 2-10%, meaning level 1= 2%, 2=4%, 3=6%, 4=8% and 5 (Max) = 10%. This will limit pvp's of retards by quite a large margin.

Remember that, usually, having force, means this build WILL NOT HAVE a Dual Weapon Build or Parry Ratio+Magic Damage Buff+Ghost Walk. Nerfind Force too much makes it useless. If the debuffs land on you, you can always run away and use pills. Those rates (%) you said are just too low. Less than 50-60% for both is just too low.

Also, can't agree with 10% Snow Shield. This will then make STR based characters weak against full int/hybrids. 20% or 25% at max level Novice is just fine or else, nukers will be really stronger.
In 1v1 PvP, every one knows that in a fight between a pure str and a nuker it's all about the STR not dieing before the nuker's snow shield is over so, if you make it weaker by THAT much, it'll just help one side and not balance the overall gameplay.