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Originally Posted by A. Musti
Herzlich willkommen in 2002 mit diesem Logo. Dafür dass InGlory und ein paar andere so stark den Trade Bereich zuspammen und viele Aufträge aufgabeln, hätte ich definitiv bessere Qualität erwartet, besonders bei so einem Preis auf EPVP. Ich verstehe nicht wie du ihm für sowas 250€ in die Hand drücken kannst.
Das ist eines der wenigen Logos die ich auf EPVP verkauft habe und dafür habe ich damals glaube ich ca. 150€ verlangt (dachte für EPVP Standards ist das schon etwas häppiger) und da die Person mit meinen Referenzen beeindruckt gewesen ist, war er auch bereit die Summe zu zahlen. Normalerweise verlange ich für Logos außerhalb EPVP auch so 200-400€ aber hier kannst du schon froh sein wenn jemand bereit ist einen 10er auszugeben.
It saddens me to see this mentality from a fellow designer. Whenever someone is paying for a design, customers should not see value in a long process it takes to finish the design, but the final result itself. Customers are paying for your craft and experience. If it takes you 2 hours to design an incredible Logo and charge 6000€ because someone else would take 2 months then so be it. Only because someone works on something longer and makes it seem like its a lot of work doesn't mean it has more value. Would you have prefered to wait 2 months for the same result to get "value" out of your money? The value is the time saved in itself to get more use out of your finished design. Also to be quite honest, i think 50€ for 3 hours of work, which translates to 16€/h is not much for a designer considering all things. In the end customers are paying for years of experience and learning it took to use all the necessary tools. On top of that you need the talent and creative imagination to even do something with the experience you have gathered. What good is all the experience and work if customers are simply not willing to pay for your designs because you lack the talent and skills. |
I partially agree with what you are saying, but lets be serious, if you want something professional I highly doubt the place to look would be on gaming forum, and theres also the other side, designing a logo is not an complex job, the complex part is to have the ideia, as I've said I design mainly as a hobby, I've never had the chance to study or invest part of my life to it, and maybe thats the cause why I have an different opinion from the other designers.
There is still another point that is where you're working from, I think 16€/h might not be much if you're on Germany, however, if you're for example in Portugal 2 hours of work per day at 16€/h would put you on a place where you would be gaining more than 80% of the country population that is working 8h/day.
And last but not least, it comes to exactly you said, 16€/h could be justificable, but how does someone prove he worth that money agaisnt any other designer ? Is it right, to make someone work independently of the price so later his artwork is not paid ? Peronsally I dont't think so.