[Question]TQ Antibot server

I am not so active on this forum and I am not as good as you people but all I can say is that there are too many knowledge that being keep inside the elite circle group which making this like a private community. Thats why I missed codexplosion because the people on that community will gonna help you if you need to ask some help. I mean not that they gonna code for you but they will give you a guidance on how you gonna do it. And that is what angelius being asked in the first place, he was not asking you to give him the exact solution but just a confirmation if he was on the right path.

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Originally Posted by xmen01235 I am not so active on this forum and I am not as good as you people but all I can say is that there are too many knowledge that being keep inside the elite circle group which making this like a private community. Thats why I missed codexplosion because the people on that community will gonna help you if you need to ask some help. I mean not that they gonna code for you but they will give you a guidance on how you gonna do it. And that is what angelius being asked in the first place, he was not asking you to give him the exact solution but just a confirmation if he was on the right path.

It's unfortunate, but not without reason.

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Originally Posted by { Angelius } FFS All i needed was a simple fucking hint/gesture/sign/whatever...

Can i just say that this is the most retarded statement ive seen from you, have you looked at the progress you have made basically on your own with very little imput from people here over the last 12 months?

You dont need anything, your doing everything right so just keep going? Keep performing your research into the client like you have been doing and keep trying.

Thats whats wrong with this community, people give up too easily, then you get what people call an "elite" group purely because they dont give up and keep innovating, then magically they have to give people hints, code, releases.

I mean fuck me, how do you think they got started?

I'lll ask an admin to close this i guess as we have no active mods any more...

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Originally Posted by diedwarrior The funny thing here is that bone-you came and was like damn guys Y U NO HELP and he suggested UG and crap, and now UG is dead and I'vent used a single thing of his released, never even read em, on the other hand, Hybrid released many stuff, sources, a freaking password bypass which I and many people use now. That's just me, maybe there's someone out there who has benefited from your threads bone-you.

So because you haven't had a use of my releases, they aren't to be considered releases? I know of quite a few who have come to benefit from them. Even if one person benefits then it's a success. UG is still dead because my ultimate suggestion never came to pass because the people with information still are withholding everything. Don't even say "well you left again" because if this entire community is riding on whether I release, there's a major problem.

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Originally Posted by Korvacs Can i just say that this is the most retarded statement ive seen from you, have you looked at the progress you have made basically on your own with very little imput from people here over the last 12 months? You dont need anything, your doing everything right so just keep going? Keep performing your research into the client like you have been doing and keep trying.

Maybe he hit a brick wall. Maybe he needs another pair of eyes for the solution. One person can't solve everything. One of the largest benefits of working in teams is that someone else can spot mistakes or offer another solution to a problem that you may not have seen. It has nothing to do with his capability, maybe he's just not seeing the solution everyone else has even if it might be right in front of his face. All he asked for was a hint, a guide. He's not asking for a map to the pot of gold.

That's where this community falls apart. Angelius is probably one of the most worthy people to receive help from the so called 'elite', yet here they are telling him to figure it out himself and no one will ever help. If even he can't get help, what hope is there for anyone else?

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Originally Posted by bone-you So because you haven't had a use of my releases, they aren't to be considered releases? I know of quite a few who have come to benefit from them.

Me.

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Originally Posted by { Angelius } "Na na na bla bla bla of the Great Berlin Wall" Love the way how you're being mature and being affected by a post that wasn't personally aimed towards you. What did you expect?? people to bow for you and your dll project that contains 2 lines of code.. Why not right ahead rip off my arm as my hand isn't enough LOL. Shall I cook a whole meal for you?

@boneyou: They don't seem to care about you either. Stop defending yourself.

^this.

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Originally Posted by bone-you So because you haven't had a use of my releases, they aren't to be considered releases? I know of quite a few who have come to benefit from them. Even if one person benefits then it's a success. UG is still dead because my ultimate suggestion never came to pass because the people with information still are withholding everything. Don't even say "well you left again" because if this entire community is riding on whether I release, there's a major problem.

It's apparently riding on whether I release since neither Steve, John or Dean can be considered 'active' members of e*pvp :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by ImmuneOne No one, I repeat no one of this freakin' community deserves a single fuck given. 1. Hybrid writes a password bypass and releases it. Result: People look at the password bypass and not the actual technique. 2. I release a way for non C++ users to inject/hook and it even got updated. Result: No single fuck given, no proper use of the method and no proper thank you. 3. IAmHawtness releases a bot with more than enough growing ability. Result: People whine about how to get it to work and you all burden him with tasks like adding more features. It's very plain and simple. Stop getting fucking personal affected by other people's comments about you and whatever you do. It's not bad to ask questions but keep being realistic instead of the dramatic requests. You want something to get done that you can't solve yourself go team up with somebody else with equal or higher capability instead of creating threads with walls of posts that eventually will even exceed the length of the Great Berlin Wall.

+10000000

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Originally Posted by bone-you So because you haven't had a use of my releases, they aren't to be considered releases? I know of quite a few who have come to benefit from them. Even if one person benefits then it's a success. UG is still dead because my ultimate suggestion never came to pass because the people with information still are withholding everything. Don't even say "well you left again" because if this entire community is riding on whether I release, there's a major problem.

Why the hell don't you people read the whole post, I said there might be someone who benefited out of it:confused:,And we're in no way depending on your releases,I was just saying that you came up and were like no one releases shit and no one cares for others,so I actually thought you'd release something.
To sum this up:hybrid released the bypass because it will ONLY help pservers since you can't actually use it on real co, so basically some stuff are okay to be released and some are not, if he thinks that this antibot cracking stuff will affect him in anyway then he should think a lot before releasing/giving any tips,after all I think Angelius can probably crack it alone if he spends more time on it, good luck people.

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Originally Posted by Korvacs Can i just say that this is the most retarded statement ive seen from you, have you looked at the progress you have made basically on your own with very little imput from people here over the last 12 months? You dont need anything, your doing everything right so just keep going? Keep performing your research into the client like you have been doing and keep trying. Thats whats wrong with this community, people give up too easily, then you get what people call an "elite" group purely because they dont give up and keep innovating, then magically they have to give people hints, code, releases. I mean fuck me, how do you think they got started? I'lll ask an admin to close this i guess as we have no active mods any more...

I didn't give up and i had no intention to give up.. and quoting myself in my very second post in this thread...

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Originally Posted by { Angelius } My hopes are not up as i am sure i can figure it out on my own if i spend a fair amount of time debugging the client.. but i thought that reinventing the wheel is kinda stupid and asking them folks might save tons of time...

Don't you agree ?

No, i don't agree at all, for one thing i don't agree with the whole 'reinventing the wheel' mentality, you can happily reinvent the wheel as a learning exercise, to improve your abilities and to improve on the original design. So there's nothing wrong with reinventing the wheel in my view.

And in this case its not relevant anyway as your not simply reinventing the wheel for learning purposes, your doing it to implement it into a proxy which your developing which obviously means another bot for Conquer, so i don't know why you would believe that people would hand this knowledge out, even if you do believe in the "reinventing the wheel" mentality.

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Originally Posted by Korvacs No, i don't agree at all, for one thing i don't agree with the whole 'reinventing the wheel' mentality, you can happily reinvent the wheel as a learning exercise, to improve your abilities and to improve on the original design. So there's nothing wrong with reinventing the wheel in my view. And in this case its not relevant anyway as your not simply reinventing the wheel for learning purposes, your doing it to implement it into a proxy which your developing which obviously means another bot for Conquer, so i don't know why you would believe that people would hand this knowledge out, even if you do believe in the "reinventing the wheel" mentality.

Because the only known definition of learning in this community is similar to using a guide to setup your television cable connection.

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Originally Posted by Korvacs Didn't you leave this community to make money from another community? The walking hypocrisy continues! :rolleyes:

I don't see what that have to do with anything in this thread, and any normal person reply to this would be " none of your fucking business "

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Originally Posted by InfamousNoone Really? I thought that post was very useful. It basically implied: don't get your hopes up waiting around for someone to come a long and say "hey this is how you do it". Instead, go back to your work because at very best you'll get someone who's interested in your work and would like to also work on it with you -- not somebody who's figured it out.

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Originally Posted by Kiyono Hybrid has a point, instead of him getting his hopes up and waiting for someone with the knowledge to post it, he told him right at the beginning to not expect anything and give up the waiting. This way he doesn't need to wait for something that will never happen in other words save time.

No one said that his life is on hold waiting for an answer to this question, and i believe everyone knows him and knows how he works by now..

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Originally Posted by Korvacs I'm sorry but he hasn't contributed anything to this community beyond his ability to walk into a thread and cause arguments, I would classify his C++ source as a contribution, but for C++ its not particularly well written and it was widely ignored and unused as is the same for his proxy that he wrote (which at the time I believe I remember him stating that people shouldn't bother writing other proxies because his was capable of doing the same if they wrote plugins for it, ironic that now he believes everyone should just write everything instead of just using the tools available to them) He just walks in, contradicts what he's said previously and becomes a hypocrite, I have every right to tell him to go where people actually care, and he should take my advice and consider it doing everyone here a favour.

If you don't care then how come you jump head 1st into any thread he replies to and start talking about him? grow up

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Originally Posted by Korvacs;18255778[B ]Ugh you know what bone, I really don't understand why you keep posting here[/B], you bring nothing new to the community, you bring argument into discussions, you bring hypocrisy into everything (not even sure how you manage that last one, but i honestly don't know a bigger hypocrite), I can only assume that your just a troll at this point, so your just here to waste peoples time, so I'm not going to bother wasting any more of my time on you.

I could ask the exact same question to you..

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Originally Posted by InfamousNoone Back to my question of why the hell does thr community need the anti bot? They don't. Anything they do need is publicly available, stfu.

I believe Ang is the 1st one to ever ask for the antibot, and if you know and don't wanna share then spare us, you either contribute to the thread or as you said, stfu.

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Originally Posted by InfamousNoone I've forced the community into nothing. Anyone and everyone can make it as far as I have. They simply lack the will to. I support learning, not spoon feeding. What about you? bb.

Dunno neither do i care where you at now or what you have done in your life so far, but i know for a fact that you don't judge people and say they lack the will to do whatever it is the matter at hand, and if you supported learning you would've gave Ang at least a head start on what to do, and when i say head start i dont mean the C > S / S > C bullshit, Ang didn't ask for spoon feeding.

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Originally Posted by InfamousNoone It's apparently riding on whether I release since neither Steve, John or Dean can be considered 'active' members of e*pvp :rolleyes:

Seriously get over your self dude. thats plain pathetic.

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Originally Posted by m7mdxlife I don't see what that have to do with anything in this thread, and any normal person reply to this would be " none of your fucking business " If you don't care then how come you jump head 1st into any thread he replies to and start talking about him? grow up I could ask the exact same question to you..

You clearly don't understand how hypocritical it is to say "I really don't agree with people making money from information that's kept private" while doing it within another community, how he responds to that is upto him.

I posted first in this thread, so your second point is completely invalid.

I post here because I'm still an active member of the community here and still contribute, not my fault your not involved in what I'm involved in currently.

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Originally Posted by m7mdxlife I don't see what that have to do with anything in this thread, and any normal person reply to this would be " none of your fucking business " No one said that his life is on hold waiting for an answer to this question, and i believe everyone knows him and knows how he works by now.. If you don't care then how come you jump head 1st into any thread he replies to and start talking about him? grow up I could ask the exact same question to you.. I believe Ang is the 1st one to ever ask for the antibot, and if you know and don't wanna share then spare us, you either contribute to the thread or as you said, stfu. Dunno neither do i care where you at now or what you have done in your life so far, but i know for a fact that you don't judge people and say they lack the will to do whatever it is the matter at hand, and if you supported learning you would've gave Ang at least a head start on what to do, and when i say head start i dont mean the C > S / S > C bullshit, Ang didn't ask for spoon feeding. Seriously get over your self dude. thats plain pathetic.

I don't know Ang in the sense of I don't talk to him. I don't know how he works, and I don't care. I reserve the right to judge people how I see fit and express my opinions about them as such. He isn't the first, and as I said I felt I did contribute -- don't wait around; simple as that.

I support selective learning, is that better? Get over myself? Considering I'm the only active person on e*pvp with what everyone wants you can so kindly fuck off. I find it funny that because I don't want to release it makes me the bad guy; though, I don't mind playing that roll and I could care less.