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Originally Posted by Apollon__
Poppy keep saying his don't wanna talk with me, i give donation link before me, bla bla bla bla bla. Basically all that stuff are bullshit. Do you know what's the truth? lemme tell you. Poppy steal his work, he just modify manolo code and add couple of functions, that's not make Poppy's "real-dev"... manolo knew what Poppy try to do (that's why he left discord ). Poppy make money from his project, his make prestige from manolo project and his trying to take manolo place(guess his success).If Poppy is excellent coder he can creat his own bot project or he can stop getting donation. If ppl wanna donate they can donate to "real-dev manolo", Poppy don't deserve to donation(imo)
wanna say couple of thing about donation i'm not against to Poppy's earn money, he give time for it i understand but this project created for FREE. If Poppy wanna work for that "FREE" project, he must be work for FREE. He don't deserve getting donation as i said also i'm quite sure Poppy want that money, nobody pushed him to add donation link + ads. Isn't it?
one more thing, same shit happened to freshek and now it's happening to manolo. If you are coder, DO NOT try to make free project for this community there is always someone is come in up and will steal your work.
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"Poppy steal his work, he just modify manolo code and add couple of functions, that's not make Poppy's "real-dev"..."
I didn't steal his work, i released a diff version with more features, and never claimed to be the original dev.
"manolo knew what Poppy try to do (that's why he left discord )"
When he left the discord i still had no power there, he could've even banned me if he wanted to, or, the easier approach, he could've answered "no" any of the many times i asked if he was fine with me adding features.
"Poppy make money from his project, his make prestige from manolo project and his trying to take manolo place(guess his success)"
That only even started happening after manolo left the discord for his own bot, and proceeded not to answer. He was making money from donations when he was on the discord, when he left many even thought he was abandoning the project.
"If Poppy is excellent coder he can creat his own bot project or he can stop getting donation. If ppl wanna donate they can donate to "real-dev manolo", Poppy don't deserve to donation(imo)"
Being a good coder doesn't mean being stupid and doing more work than needs to be done. I only got myself into bot-coding because the bot was good, and written in java wich i could easily improve. Making a bot from scratch is alot of work and i don't have the time nor the dedication to do so.
People can of course still donate to manolo for the time he dedicated to creating the core of the bot, but when you compare side-to-side my version and manolo's, his is just very feature-lacking. I added features the users wanted.
"wanna say couple of thing about donation i'm not against to Poppy's earn money, he give time for it i understand but this project created for FREE. If Poppy wanna work for that "FREE" project, he must be work for FREE."
I started working for free, and i still continue to work for free on the bot. There's a donation link, but people donate if they want, no one has to pay a cent to use the bot, and all releases can be downloaded for free with no ads.
"He don't deserve getting donation as i said also i'm quite sure Poppy want that money, nobody pushed him to add donation link + ads. Isn't it?"
Well actually, YES. People were pushing for me to add a donation link. People wanted to pay me & manolo for our work. And while manolo was in the discord i was always in favor of him getting all of the money. It's since he left that we didn't even know if he would continue to work on the bot or leave the project.
"one more thing, same shit happened to freshek and now it's happening to manolo. If you are coder, DO NOT try to make free project for this community there is always someone is come in up and will steal your work."
Well yes, but actually no. All of the work i've done on the bot, i've uploaded to github and is open source. Manolo could take all of my features and add them to the bot, and continue to release updated versions with all of the features. I am quite LITERALLY giving my work for free on github for him to "steal" (put it in his version), he just hasn't.
It's fine that you think i don't deserve donations, you are completely free to donate to manolo. There are people who think otherwise and that i deserve the donation more, for keeping the bot updated and constantly adding new features, wich is why they donate to me instead. You can't blame me and say i'm stealing, for people being willing to donate just for having released a more feature-rich version of the bot, especially when the developer has never said he didn't like me adding features.
I also think manolo deserves more donations than the ones he got, and in fact i would be willing to donate to him, but not if he's abandoning the proejct. If he at least, open sources the code, even if he abandons the project others can keep working on it, wich means the donation hasn't been just lost to no cause.