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05/23/2016 12:19 evilazza#6646
Is it me or is it very unfair on old players. To upgrade your items to 10d you have to farm or buy these treasure coins and get even more job coins, where as new players can just get moon for even lower rates and just pick 10dg sox drops.

So was it worth actually playing for the last 2 months and workign for the final items when now a clean sos 10d drop is better than 9d soa +7?

I was under the impression old players would at least get some upgrade scrolls especially for the moon weapon since they had to work hard to earn that.
05/23/2016 13:09 speedfarmer#6647
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Originally Posted by evilazza View Post
Is it me or is it very unfair on old players. To upgrade your items to 10d you have to farm or buy these treasure coins and get even more job coins, where as new players can just get moon for even lower rates and just pick 10dg sox drops.

So was it worth actually playing for the last 2 months and workign for the final items when now a clean sos 10d drop is better than 9d soa +7?

I was under the impression old players would at least get some upgrade scrolls especially for the moon weapon since they had to work hard to earn that.
If new Players wouldnt get something like that to catch up no new players would have joined the new cap
05/23/2016 13:46 LastThief*#6648
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Originally Posted by evilazza View Post
Is it me or is it very unfair on old players. To upgrade your items to 10d you have to farm or buy these treasure coins and get even more job coins, where as new players can just get moon for even lower rates and just pick 10dg sox drops.

So was it worth actually playing for the last 2 months and workign for the final items when now a clean sos 10d drop is better than 9d soa +7?

I was under the impression old players would at least get some upgrade scrolls especially for the moon weapon since they had to work hard to earn that.
It's impossible to achieve the perfect balance between old and new players, but as you see with the new expansion we are currently almost at 2k again which means we extended the server lifetime period also this almost happens on every expansion on every game -even aside from silkroad- if we are taking a look at Destiny for example -which is pretty decent FPSMMORPG- with each expansion they brought helluva of new content which basically throws the old content in the trash bin I'm not exaggerating this is actually the case when Bungie introduced The Taken King expansion the original game became valueless simply you can't play destiny anymore unless you own The Taken King expansion due to the stuff they added which added more content to end-game but as we are not official company or anything we tried to balance between both old and new players if you don't facilitate stuff for new players no one will simply join but also you can't throw your old players in the trash can and that's the case. we introduced upgrade scrolls as well for them so that they require some grinding aside from the regular activities and at this time the new players will be able to catch up, I'm not saying it's perfect because it's impossible to achieve a perfect balance but you can say ATLEAST we tried. Just as of today I logged in and exchanged 9DG immos to 10DG immos free of charge which clearly favors the old players, I did not want to rip em off either. and in the end I'd really like to hear suggestions I'm open to them 24/7 if it helps develop the server further surely I'll implement them.

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Originally Posted by ijzeredraak5 View Post
please let us be able to buy arrows in samarakand
I'll add them in the next update !

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Originally Posted by julesking1 View Post
yeap! same here! any of you guys knows what to do?
Try deleting temp path folder.

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Originally Posted by drduke42 View Post
Or just let us upgrade our moons for no charge. We already earned them. Then reduce the coins needed for the other gears.
That's not going to happen because this means that we are just going back to old state where as the old players are op af and the new players do not even have a chance to catch up.
05/23/2016 13:57 evilazza#6649
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Originally Posted by LastThief* View Post
It's impossible to achieve the perfect balance between old and new players, but as you see with the new expansion we are currently almost at 2k again which means we extended the server lifetime period also this almost happens on every expansion on every game -even aside from silkroad- if we are taking a look at Destiny for example -which is pretty decent FPSMMORPG- with each expansion they brought helluva of new content which basically throws the old content in the trash bin I'm not exaggerating this is actually the case when Bungie introduced The Taken King expansion the original game became valueless simply you can't play destiny anymore unless you own The Taken King expansion due to the stuff they added which added more content to end-game but as we are not official company or anything we tried to balance between both old and new players if you don't facilitate stuff for new players no one will simply join but also you can't throw your old players in the trash can and that's the case. we introduced upgrade scrolls as well for them so that they require some grinding aside from the regular activities and at this time the new players will be able to catch up, I'm not saying it's perfect because it's impossible to achieve a perfect balance but you can say ATLEAST we tried. Just as of today I logged in and exchanged 9DG immos to 10DG immos free of charge which clearly favors the old players, I did not want to rip em off either. and in the end I'd really like to hear suggestions I'm open to them 24/7 if it helps develop the server further surely I'll implement them.
Appreciate the reply and the valid explanation it makes full sense. Agreed about attracting the new players and it will give them a very fair chance now to catch up. To me the update is very good and i havent come across an issue with it yet.

My suggestion however would be give at least moon weapon upgrade scrolls for free to players for a period of 1 week. It took me nearly 1.5 months to achieve the end weapon (daily play of maybe 3hrs after work like most people who dont just bot 24/7) and now currently a 10d sox would be better as a standard drop. This is my suggestion in working towards a better balance between old and new.
05/23/2016 14:05 LastThief*#6650
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Originally Posted by evilazza View Post
Appreciate the reply and the valid explanation it makes full sense. Agreed about attracting the new players and it will give them a very fair chance now to catch up. To me the update is very good and i havent come across an issue with it yet.

My suggestion however would be give at least moon weapon upgrade scrolls for free to players for a period of 1 week. It took me nearly 1.5 months to achieve the end weapon (daily play of maybe 3hrs after work like most people who dont just bot 24/7) and now currently a 10d sox would be better as a standard drop. This is my suggestion in working towards a better balance between old and new.
If this is the case then it defeats the purpose of the whole update. Yes it's only the weapon you are not asking for full exchange but let's take the situation from another POV if you are as new player join and find someone with 10dg som +9 (Which is supposedly the end-game gear) the first thing you are going to say "Fuck off, I'm not playing this shit", the whole problem is that people do not realize there will be ALWAYS a gap between old and new players no matter what so while you are grinding for your 10DG upgrade scrolls the new players are still going towards hitting level 100 if you understand the equation you'll realize that giving free upgrade scrolls is just totally destroying new players or atleast they'd think that. What we are here to do is to tighten this gap between old and new players, not making them equal but tighten it the players who worked their asses off past two months deserve some advantage BUT they do not deserve to be OP when compared to another players. ISRO and many other private servers -won't mention names- are totally destroying new players because old players will just 24/7 win in the regular activities whether it's CTF / BA / Jobbing the old players will ALWAYS own new players but if you keep the old players busy with something such as grinding for upgrade scrolls then here exactly the gap begins to tighten because the old players will be also working for it but who reaches it first ? they are the old players but then the new players won't be so far away from achieving it as well which just gives them a reason to stay and it's that they will be able to compete against the old players.
05/23/2016 17:10 GL_Insanity#6651
There is no treasure coin in the mbot
05/23/2016 18:40 dancz21#6652
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Originally Posted by GL_Insanity View Post
There is no treasure coin in the mbot
If im right , Tc = iron coin in Mbot !
05/23/2016 18:42 flamoosh#6653
can u enable zerk in alex job cave so we won't bot for 2h killing selket&neith
05/23/2016 19:04 yehiaelsayedibrahim#6654
Hey LT,about the Lag issue in egypt i faced it myself and i just relogged a few times and then it worked perfectly maybe you can type it in a notice.
Thanks.
05/23/2016 19:12 STIFFLER89#6655
Cold imbue is totally bugged . continue hour 0.0 second . fix this.
05/23/2016 19:57 evilazza#6656
Two improvements:

--Increase the health for kill the GM, the event finished in less than 20 seconds lol with about 20 people there, 10d is OP at the moment saw a moon +9 10d hit 50k on a mob normal with nukes no damage ignore lol,

--Remove the question events since people have found a bot or can predict them since they answer within 1 second, replace this event with more kill the gm since its actually a fair event because the last hit counts only not max damage.
05/23/2016 20:03 ijzeredraak5#6657
does anybody know how much this glaive is worth, i'm terrible at price checking
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05/23/2016 20:38 LastThief*#6658
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Originally Posted by evilazza View Post
Two improvements:

--Increase the health for kill the GM, the event finished in less than 20 seconds lol with about 20 people there, 10d is OP at the moment saw a moon +9 10d hit 50k on a mob normal with nukes no damage ignore lol,

--Remove the question events since people have found a bot or can predict them since they answer within 1 second, replace this event with more kill the gm since its actually a fair event because the last hit counts only not max damage.
Not possible to increase it anymore that's the maximum
Trivia is usually answered within 11 or 15 seconds, the bot keeps record of that and it does not accept instant answers.

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Originally Posted by ijzeredraak5 View Post
does anybody know how much this glaive is worth, i'm terrible at price checking
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Keep an eye on the globals.
05/23/2016 21:34 gimme5bucks#6659
at least can you increase the rates of treasure coins drop ... its just unbelievable watching people buying 2 treasure coins for 100 silks
05/23/2016 21:43 GL_Insanity#6660
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Originally Posted by ijzeredraak5 View Post
does anybody know how much this glaive is worth, i'm terrible at price checking
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3b think

You said that to get som him down prices, but what you just do is raise the price