Zeitgeist is a scam:
1. Overview of the Scam
Scamming Entity: Zeitgeist (Private League of Legends Scripting Platform)
Involved Discord Staff Accounts:
109 (Discord ID: 109110x — Main Scammer / Sales Agent)
Wafend (Staff Member / Deflector)
tosh (Discord ID: 7magik — Admin / Source Provider)
Nx a middle man
Scary The guy who invited me
The Scam Method: Selling a non-functional internal script loader, blaming technical failure on a fake "Riot source code leak," forcing a mandatory paid external bypass upsell for £150, failing to deliver the third-party bypass, and ultimately banning the user when they demand transparency.
2. Comprehensive Chronological Timeline & Evidence
Phase 1: Casual Banter & False Confidence
Early in the interaction, staff member 109 built rapport by sharing Streamable gameplay clips of the old dead platform and joking about community drama to foster trust and validate the platform's legitimacy.
Phase 2: The Continuous Failure of the Product
Immediately upon purchasing, I encountered a cascade of operational failures that prevented the platform from ever working:
Windows Compatibility: The loader failed to connect because my Windows version was 25H.
Hidden VPS Costs: I was forced to pay extra for a VPS server just to get the client to connect smoothly.
Loader Crashes: The client and loader crashed completely, requiring them to push a "new loader" file.
Zero Injection: Once the new file was delivered, it completely failed to hook or inject into the League of Legends client.
Phase 3: Shifting the Blame & The "Riot Source Code Leak" Excuse
When I confronted 109 about the injection failure, they initially blamed me, claiming I ran the loader before opening the game. When that excuse failed, they shifted to a massive structural lie: claiming that a "Rioter" leaked their bypass source code, Vanguard targeted them, and "Riot secret agents" were actively tracking them. They admitted their internal system was completely down but tried to frame their loader as an advanced "all-in-one infosec tool" that hides the menu to protect its code.
Phase 4: The £150 Paid "NoLimit" External Bypass Upsell
Despite their pinned messages promising a working product, 109 stated that because their internal bypass was compromised, the only solution was a mandatory paid external bypass called "NoLimit".
I directly challenged them on why paying customers were being charged extra to fix a broken core feature.
109 deflected by stating: "This not something made by us... if it was made by us it would be no payment."
They openly admitted to acting as unauthorized resellers for a third-party private provider.
Phase 5: Taking the Upsell Money and Delivering Nothing
Desperate to get a working product after days of waiting, I paid the extra fee for the external provider. 109 attempted to placate me by sending a screenshot of a command window titled "Private Bypass - Session active - Injected" to prove they were working. However, when I asked where my access link was, 109 stalled again, stating: "Yes, they are not updated yet... the bypass is not working is under maintenance." They took the upsell money for a third-party tool that was also completely broken and unpatched.
Phase 7 : Tosh the admin asked for my bios setting to ensure loader is ready then he said he did some modificaitons in the file to make the loader ready and he demands 200 £ fees for his work to deliver the file after long negotiation they demanded that and desperately I paid the 200 pounds
Phase 8: Final Confrontation & Exit Scam
When I pointed out the sheer absurdity of the timeline—where every single layer of their product required more money or was permanently down—109 dropped the professional act, accused me of breaking community rules for questioning them, and blacklisted me from the server without a refund.
3. Deep-Dive: Overcoming Suspicion with Lies & Stalling Tactics
Phase 8: The Confrontation Regarding Elitepvpers Blacklist
When I openly questioned why Zeitgeist was explicitly listed on the elitepvpers scammer list and why posts warned that anyone selling access after 2024 was a fraud, the staff immediately scrambled to control the narrative:
Wafend claimed that the platform originally shut down due to Vanguard, but secretly reopened in September 2024 as a highly restricted, hidden project with only 5–10 customers.
They insisted that the epvp blacklist was simply "outdated" or due to "lurkers" and impersonators who tried to scam using the previous Zeitgeist brand name.
To prove legitimacy, Wafend flexed that they held the "original" Discord account (zeitgei.st) and that most of the veteran "OG" users were still in their server.
Phase 8: Deflecting Blame for the Non-Functional Product
When I pushed back and said my suspicions were high because nothing was working on my device, Wafend turned defensive, stating they "don't like" that I thought they were lying or scamming.
They admitted the first file failed but tried to deflect blame to my system, arguing it was purely because my Windows version wasn't supported.
They tried to frame the mere act of sending any file—even a completely broken one—as a sign of good faith: "but the main point is that we gave you something."
Phase 9: The "Awaiting Tosh" Stalling Routine
As I demanded a working setup, the staff began a classic pass-the-baton stall tactic. Wafend claimed they were entirely dependent on their admin/coder, tosh, and told me to wait until tosh was available.
Phase 10: Hyping Up the Fake Visuals
Hours later, 109 entered the chat to build false hype, dropping a sleek graphic of the updated Zeitgeist loader interface to distract from the technical delays.
They repeatedly fished for compliments on the UI layout: "you like the loader look? it's better than before".
109 made definitive, false promises to break my skepticism, stating: "i swear you will try the file today like after all this wait you will finally be able to enjoy".
Phase 11: Server Context
For the moderation team's reference, this is the specific Discord community server where these fraudulent transactions, false claims, and technical excuses took place.
4. Conclusion & Warning to the Community
Zeitgeist is not a functional private platform; it is an organized money-extraction scheme operating in the shadows. They take initial payments for a completely non-functional loader, blame Vanguard or fake "Riot leaks" for immediate downtime, extort an extra £150 for a third-party "NoLimit" bypass that isn't even updated, and instantly ban/blacklist anyone who calls out their stalling tactics or demands transparency.
Do not trade with 109, Wafend, tosh, or anyone associated with Zeitgeist. They belong permanently on the blacklist.
Luckly I was suspicious during the whole process So I took screen shots of every thing before I was blocked/kicked off the discord
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